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PT-AE3000U upgrade options

My Current Setup:

-180" 2.35:1 1.0 GAIN fixed frame screen
-PT-AE3000U with lens memory for 2.40,2.35,1.85 Covers 99% of my material watched.
-100% light controlled
-My current mount point for the 3000u is 20' back and same height with top of screen. Lens is centered to screen width center point so prefer a model that has lens centered in chassis/mount points.
-My seating area is 15'-18' from screen. I don't notice any screen door effect with current setup.

Love the 3000U but replacements bulbs getting hard to find.
Would love a laser to avoid bulb changes but only if it is good value.
Prefer lens memory over anamorphic.

What are the best options for 1080P and 4K?

Thanks in advanced.

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Well you don't say what your price range is. So I will give you some suggestions:

Laser: Epson LS10500

I've not seen this projector in person, but word of mouth is that it is a very good unit. MSRP is $8k, but I'm sure you could get it for less. It's an panel shifting 4K unit which means it uses a 1080 panel and shifts it show more of the 4K picture information than a 2K projector. Sky is the limit the high end lasers from Sony and JVC are amazing, but I'm guessing $20K+ isn't what you're looking for.

Bulb: JVC RS520 or RS420

I've seen several examples of JVC's RS5x0 and RS4x0 projectors. The 520 throws the second best picture I've seen in person (it's bigger brother the RS6x0 family is the best). Street pricing is going to be in the $4-5K range for the RS520. The RS420 is going to be bit cheaper (~$3-4K). It has less 4K BT202 color coverage (~70% vs ~98% for the RS5x0/6x0). It also lacks the dual iris system of the upper range models as well, so it has a higher black floor and less contrast. But it's still stunning and my choice if your budget can't stretch far enough for an RS520. Both units again use panel shifting to display 4K information.

There are other choices. The Sony native 4K units throw a very nice picture. The one I saw could not match the picture of the JVC RS520 despite a higher cost. The native 4K panel is very nice, but the panel shift techniques used by JVC are good enough that I don't consider it enough to offset the better overall picture the JVC offers.

Another choice would be the Epson 5040 UB (or 6040 UB). I've gotten to see a couple of these. They are very nice units, but the black floor and contrast are not close to what the JVC RS420 offers. Also the JVC RS4x0 lenses I've seen are much sharper than what the Epson offers. If you can't stretch to reach the low end JVC this isn't a bad choice, but I would certainly try to get the JVC.

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Thanks jeahrens.

Sounds like the JVC 420,520,620 would be a good hold over until 4k native laser is affordable. You are right about my budget not wanting to spend 20k+. I was thinking $3k-$6k. Now I just need to demo some 420/520/620 models to see if the contrast and color matters much. But based on MSRP, the 420 looks most appealing as a holdover until I get true 4k laser. I assume 1080P material looks nice also since the panel is 1080P. Have not heard of 4k shift until today.

Any users out there that have owned the PT-AE3000U and the JVC RS420 or 520/620? If so can you describe your experience with the upgrade? Especially interested in lens memory feature of JVC vs. Panasonic any differences?

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Thanks jeahrens.

Sounds like the JVC 420,520,620 would be a good hold over until 4k native laser is affordable. You are right about my budget not wanting to spend 20k+. I was thinking $3k-$6k. Now I just need to demo some 420/520/620 models to see if the contrast and color matters much. But based on MSRP, the 420 looks most appealing as a holdover until I get true 4k laser. I assume 1080P material looks nice also since the panel is 1080P. Have not heard of 4k shift until today.

Any users out there that have owned the PT-AE3000U and the JVC RS420 or 520/620? If so can you describe your experience with the upgrade?
What area are you in? If you can stretch to the RS520 I would do so. The dual iris system and better BT2020 coverage are worth the premium IMO. Though the RS420 is pretty fantastic in its own right.

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What area are you in? If you can stretch to the RS520 I would do so. The dual iris system and better BT2020 coverage are worth the premium IMO. Though the RS420 is pretty fantastic in its own right.
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Darn if you were closer to Kansas/Iowa I could suggest some folks to get into contact with to look at some of these units. Still you could look at some of the regional threads in your area. You might be able to find someone local that way.

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AV Science has some killer deals on B-Stock RS400 and RS600's. If you don't game, I'd call them about the RS600, it's really hard to do better today, especially at the B-Stock price.

Frankly, I'm amazed you could watch an AE3000 at 180", it's a pretty dim projector and that's a huge screen. I would have said even the RS600 is probably not bright enough for that size screen, but it will be a lot brighter than what you've got (3-4 times brighter potentially).
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AV Science has some killer deals on B-Stock RS400 and RS600's. If you don't game, I'd call them about the RS600, it's really hard to do better today, especially at the B-Stock price.

Frankly, I'm amazed you could watch an AE3000 at 180", it's a pretty dim projector and that's a huge screen. I would have said even the RS600 is probably not bright enough for that size screen, but it will be a lot brighter than what you've got (3-4 times brighter potentially).

I guess I need to call about B-Stock? the website does not mention B-Stock. Link?
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I guess I need to call about B-Stock? the website does not mention B-Stock. Link?
You'll have to call Mike or Craig.
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Thanks. I will give them a call.
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