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Well ..sort of ... after all my research and hard work I got word from "her" today that the CIH is a no-go.

She doesn't like the lens ... it's apparently too ugly.

I can't complain too much, as I am allowed to table mount the PJ for my HP screen, but honestly ... she has so many toys, etc this just seems rediculous. Sorry for sounding like a baby here, but its really frustrating. All I want is one room ... granted it is the family room, but I don't really ask for much ... just a little black lens.

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Slap her and show her who is the alpha leader in the house.
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Well ..sort of ... after all my research and hard work I got word from "her" today that the CIH is a no-go.

She doesn't like the lens ... it's apparently too ugly.

I can't complain too much, as I am allowed to table mount the PJ for my HP screen, but honestly ... she has so many toys, etc this just seems rediculous. Sorry for sounding like a baby here, but its really frustrating. All I want is one room ... granted it is the family room, but I don't really ask for much ... just a little black lens.

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Sounds like you need a new wife. LOL.
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I get the same support from my wife. We have a 50 inch Panny plasma with two terrible sounding speakers in the family room. No way for her to accept a sub or even 3 across the front.

Know it does not make it easier but there are others with the same ideas about things.
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If it were me, I'd mount it anyway and not tell her.

Has she actually seen the lens in action? Once she sees the results, she should have a mind change.

Either that or send her an email with a link to this thread so she knows we're all talking about her

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Well ... am REALLY getting away with a lot. I've got large tower speakers, two 15" subwoofers, and surround speakers that are rather large as well. I have a permanent screen covering the wall .. and a table mounted (again rather large) PJ.

She's seen it in action ... and can't appreciate the difference between zoom and streched (SD aside). I can see it, and its 100% worth it to me ... but alas I must make my compromises.

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Jim (makes excuses, but doesn't stand his ground)

I think we understand, Jim. The cost of keeping the lens is far more than what you paid for it, and with all the equipment you already have, it simply isn't worth pressing your luck. Some of us shouldn't take for granted that we have space for a dedicated, light-controlled room. About the only thing I can imagine getting a rise out of my wife would be nude pin-ups plastered all over the walls of my HT......... and even then, only if they were pictures of men.
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Thanks rto .... exactly my thoughts .... I envy the guys outside of CA and other major cities where I could easily have more room to expand for these sort of things.

For now ... I just have to play nice with her

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When are you gentlemen going to learn. First, you get the lens & install it. Next, you give the Mrs some lovely jewelry. After which, you watch a movie (that she wants to see) with the new lens.

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Better send that email Jim - quick...

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I'm speechless...keep your wife away from mine!

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When are you gentlemen going to learn. First, you get the lens & install it. Next, you give the Mrs some lovely jewelry. After which, you watch a movie (that she wants to see) with the new lens.

Either way, ya gotta pay for more than just the lens. Your way is what?.....maybe double the cost? I'm still trying to figure out how some of you guys manage to trade up projectors on a semi-annual basis......must be a serious income vector, because I can imagine my wife collapsing in a fit of apoplectic hilarity if I tried to tell her: "yeah honey, this new one is waaaaay better than that old POS I bought six months ago, and besides. I may be able to recoup half of what I paid for it new."
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What Lens is it anyway Jim?

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hehehe ... you guys are funny ... good to see "most" of us here understand the predicament. My cost would be Far greater than even the cost of the projector ... this I know.

CAVX,
It's an ISCO II

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Better send that email Jim - quick...

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Email?

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Email?

As in, "I need a return authorization number."
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Email?

See my earlier post...

The ISCO II is not even a large lens - whats her problem?

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Just put it in a cabinet and then pull it out when watching a movie. You are aleady spending 2 hours watching a movie, you can surely invest another 60 seconds to set the lens in place!
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We've been married 18 years, at year three I came up with a saying, "Women remember everything you say to them, but, nothing that you tell them."
Sounds chauvinistic, but, think about it. If you have an argument, she'll remind you of it years later. If a new gadget is introduced to my system, what button does she always forget to use? The input. She knows this, even our son laughs with us on this point.

When I told her I was building a home theater she asked, "What's the budget?"
I told her, there is no budget until I'm ready to buy the equipment. Next, I took her to a nice theater showroom, the sails filled and away I went with the project.

Once she asked me to find a credenza for her office. I couldn't find one in the size she needed so I told her I'd build one for her. She hated my design concept. I explained it, drew her pictures and still she wasn't sure. Then, I finished it and delivered it to her office. She loved it.
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"Women remember everything you say to them, but, nothing that you tell them."

Words to live by - possibly the best post I have ever read on this forum.

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I'm speechless...keep your wife away from mine!

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Where is your "what was she doing out of the kitchen in the first place?" comment ?

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We've been married 18 years, at year three I came up with a saying, "Women remember everything you say to them, but, nothing that you tell them."
Sounds chauvinistic, but, think about it. If you have an argument, she'll remind you of it years later.

Isn't that the truth. I'll be married 7 years this June and my wife still remembers the minute details of our first date nearly a decade ago. I'm lucky if I can remember what I had for breakfast today...

That being said, while I do adhere to the WAF most of the time, she knows that when I make up my mind on something that I'm going to do it with or without her blessing, and that there is no way in hell she will get me to change my mind and it is just better if I do what I intend as I can be a real bear.

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Jeff,
Where is your "what was she doing out of the kitchen in the first place?" comment ?

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I wasn't going to go there, but.....

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What do you tell a girl with two black eyes?

































Nothin .. you already told the bit*h twice

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After 5 years of marriage I learned... don't EVER go into details and 'tell' them anything. Most of the time they won't understand and will just fight ya on it. Better to let them see the results and beg forgiveness later. Unless it's going to be a major undertaking, just git'r done and roll on.

We were going to do in-walls in our bedroom, full 5.1 system, etc. Midway through doing the room she decides that the speaker grills are too obtrusive... adios surround or so she thought. Well, I simply went out the next day, bought a Yamaha YSP-1 and a Velodyne 10" sub and put it in. Her comment? "See? It sounts just fine without all those speakers."

Working with her and picking battles has paid off tho'. Not the way I WANTED to do this and was thinking we'd wait for a few more years but she's inheriting a decent amount of money and has said "I want to do an addition to the house and want you to have a real home theater. I know you've always wanted that." Cue a South Park-esque "WhawhawhaWHAT!?".

Naturally it's never THAT easy, but it's gonna be 90% what I want. I get to have control over room dimensions, etc, AND will use someone for room design to get it right the first time. No multitiered seating and no dedicated HT seating but the colorscheme will be theater appropriate and I can do what I please with screensize, equipment, etc. Better yet, the build budget will include a new projector, lens, screen, etc. Uh, so after I picked my jaw up off the floor I realized that maybe not acting like a knuckledragger DOES work. Sooo, I KNOW it's gonna be CIH, I KNOW I want at least a 120" screen, I will have complete light control (thank you hurricane shutters) and know I want an Isco III. Beyond that I simply need to pick the screen and projector!!! Oh, and whether I want to do another DD18 or an IB or or or... s'pose whomever I use for design will guide me there. 'Scuse me while I turn backflips.

And Jim, just put the lens in and shroud it with something. She will never know.

P.S. Nice 350. My weekend toy is an '06 Touring with Greddy twins.

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To be quite honest, I'm a *VERY* compromising person (I let the girlfriend have her way 99% of the time - mostly because I either agree or it doesn't matter) and hearing your situation even gets me up in arms.

I would be telling her that nobody looks at the ceiling, you were designing the theater around 2.35 from the get-go, and that sometimes appearance needs to lose to function. Tell her you love her for her mind, not her body and this is the same difference :P Worst case scenereo you can start telling her how the house is too geared towards women and you feel strangled.

I honestly wouldn't give it up. Of all the things to be asked to give up, this is very trivial imho. Could you design a hush box around it perhaps? Hide the other speakers perhaps?
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Problem is, its table mounted behind the couch. It barely fits on the table as is ... but the BenQ looks so nice from the outside, she doesn't mind it.

I'd need to make a platform to place the lens on, so the movement/quickie installation won't happen that quickly.

I mean, I guess I could have an "anamorphic rig" something like a board with the lens mounted and recesses for the feet of the pj (so it got set up correctly every time) and keep that in the back.

Ugh .... this sucks. I understand everyone being up in arms about this ... but my Hi-Power decision makes things more difficult (not that I regret it, I love the screen).

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Here you go, Jim. Just tell the wife, it's only 26 hundred, plus the cost of materials and labor for Winkelmann to build you a sofa table that it will fit in......she might change her mind, and see that lens as a bargain.
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Why can't you just ceiling mount it and put it in a hushbox?
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