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Art, could you tell me your reasoning for not going with a curved screen .. I hope to see you at CEDIA this in a few days..the AVs Forums Party

I'm dropping out of my CEDIA trip,too much unfinished work for my meet.

Two reasons for no curved screen:

1) I don't like what they look like (just a personal thing)

2) A curved screen would require more depth

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Two reasons for no curved screen:

1) I don't like what they look like (just a personal thing)

2) A curved screen would require more depth

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Art, does the projector/lens/throw ratio require a curve? If the throw is long enough, you often don't need one...

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Art, does the projector/lens/throw ratio require a curve? If the throw is long enough, you often don't need one...

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Long throw minimizes but doesn't eliminate it. It's like AT screens. Joe Kane simply won't endorse them because they are a compromise in video, but if you don't use them you really compromise speaker positioning. I want a flat screen.

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Art sorry I'll miss ya at Cedia! Very nice room though! Thanks again!
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Art sorry I'll miss ya at Cedia! Very nice room though! Thanks again!

Well, if I get something drop shipped from AVS as expected then my not going to CEDIA will be worth it.

I've gone the last four years and it is just tremendous fun and i get to see what i may want down the road. Since it is fun though I wouldn't have enjoyed it leaving so much to be done in the next three weeks.

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So the L3 is on it's way ? You guys at AVS have been so frigging awesome through this.

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Just a quick update: The port is completed, as is the projector cradle ,the Cineslide is mounted and positioning of the anamorpic lens is roughly correct.Unfortunately the track and included cable for the curtains is not adequate for the new amount of retraction required.


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Get rid of the curtains! Let nothing stand your way!!

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More room for solutions The devil is in those darn details

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Get rid of the curtains! Let nothing stand your way!!

Well ,since Angel is making new black velvet curtains, that would probably be a mistake.

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Don't get rid of the curtains! (my 2 cents!)

The opening and closing of curtains adds so much to the movie experience. It's a wonderful dramatic effect which, if you can, should be retained.

That's one thing I miss in most, if not all, theaters today. When I was growing up in the Bronx, N.Y., even the second/third tier theaters always took pride in the use of their curtains...the house lights would dim...the curtains would open as the main title was projected...

(just remembering!...)
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Don't get rid of the curtains! (my 2 cents!)

The opening and closing of curtains adds so much to the movie experience. It's a wonderful dramatic effect which, if you can, should be retained.

That's one thing I miss in most, if not all, theaters today. When I was growing up in the Bronx, N.Y., even the second/third tier theaters always took pride in the use of their curtains...the house lights would dim...the curtains would open as the main title was projected...

(just remembering!...)

In high school I worked at an old theater that had 1100 seats. We had two curtains... one side to side curtain and one waterfall curtain. They looked great. The waterfall curtain would raise and about the halfway point the side to side curtain would start opening. It looked impressive. Sadly the theater has been torn down.
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Don't worry,the curtains are an integral part of my theater, The much larger screen does not preclude their use but more work than we thought. The track isn't long enough,nor the cable mechanism. After I changed the carpet on the stage to black, Angela and I determined that black curtains would probaly set things off better. With three weeks to go and Angela making the new outfits for the girls too, it will get extremely busy.

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Don't get rid of the curtains! (my 2 cents!)
The opening and closing of curtains adds so much to the movie experience. It's a wonderful dramatic effect which, if you can, should be retained.

In a scope cinema you have the opening of the masks - that trumps the opening of the curtains in my opinion

When I "shutdown" my cinema the masks return to the 1.78:1 position so then during the next screening the menus can be done at 1.78:1 and then the masks can be opened out to 2.35:1 for the main film and also offer the wow factor to the audience.

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Don't worry,the curtains are an integral part of my theater...
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I agree given the size of the room and screen. For a smaller room and screen that could be either. It certainly brings the element of tradition and culture to the space with a wow factor.

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Finally had the opportunity to watch my scope system ,one of my all time favorites,, Forbidden Planet, OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fourteen feet wide , 19 fL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll see what I can do for screen shots a little later.

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You know, I just went to MBurnsteins house and check out his 12 ft wide scope set up and the image size floored me! I have a 10 ft wide screen (so his screen was just 2 ft wider than mine) but just those 2 feet of increased width dramatically improved the impact or and largeness of the picture.....I can't even imagine 14' wide!!!

Congrats Art!

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quit bragging and help me get my scope theater up n running

Sorry,if I'm not dead when mine is done I will.

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You know, I just went to MBurnsteins house and check out his 12 ft wide scope set up and the image size floored me! I have a 10 ft wide screen (so his screen was just 2 ft wider than mine) but just those 2 feet of increased width dramatically improved the impact or and largeness of the picture.....I can't even imagine 14' wide!!!

Congrats Art!

I had some concerns about those things that will nag CIH and get mentioned as issues eg,scaling,vertical resolution etc but the impact and immersion sent those concerns into the dim distance in the first minutes.

Still lots to do but we have a picture and it's pretty.

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Art,

How are things with the ISCO working out?

Was it quick to set up?

Any artifacts to mention of as your PJ is doing the image squeeze?

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You know, I just went to MBurnsteins house and check out his 12 ft wide scope set up and the image size floored me! I have a 10 ft wide screen (so his screen was just 2 ft wider than mine) but just those 2 feet of increased width dramatically improved the impact or and largeness of the picture.....I can't even imagine 14' wide!!!

Congrats Art!

Congrats Big Dog!

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Art,

How are things with the ISCO working out?

Was it quick to set up?

Any artifacts to mention of as your PJ is doing the image squeeze?


Right now I'm only sliding it in and out manually but the pin cushion is not even an issue. Clear pixel structure with lens in place edge to edge corner to corner little or no CA. We had to move the whole slide back about two inches because as we focused the ISCO it came closer to the wall and it interfered with the port hole frame. It has worked out great so far.

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Congrats Big Dog!

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