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It's all about timing.. I was hanging out at Emotiva Lounge just reading when I came across a post from one of the girls from Emo. This was hours before Dan did his podcast..I wasn't even a member..My first shipping # was 1325.. I bought the PA-7350 within minutes and a 4z-75 ..I could have had everything. I had just bought an Onkyo 818 and the Rtia9's , Csia6 and Fxi6's and thought I bought enough stuff. Wish I had gotten the cd-1 and pre-1 ...I am building a HT for my granddaughter..I had a installer come in to hang the zt-65 and he started to play with the Sherbourn..Within minutes it blew and I was on the phone with Cory ( Emo ) got an RMA and they paid shipping both ways. While I was waiting for the repair and return , I heard of a another shipment of PA-7350's and not knowing the outcome of the fix I pulled the trigger again. So long story long. I have two of them..unrestrained is the word that comes to mind. Effortless works also..no hum. Very quiet..And a beast..what a difference from Onkyo 818 to Sherbourn ..looking to pick up a couple of other pieces while Emo has their Xmas sale going on. This hobby can be addicting..
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Oybub1952 - what speakers are you driving?

I doubt I could tell a difference blind between my Onkyo TX-NR1007 and my P-350, and I have some experimentation to back up my thoughts --- but I also have some really efficient JTR Noesis 228HT speakers. I can see there potentially being a difference if you have very low sensitivity speakers and are running full range -- perhaps.

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I am getting a humm out of jbl xpl 140 towers. Comes out of the woofer and both HF drivers
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Boss if you are using the Sherbourn pt-7030, both balanced xlr and unbalanced rca are unbalanced internally in the circuitry.

Joel - if use balanced cables from an unbalanced source you gain nothing.

I have a Sherbourn pt-7030 so yeah I'm not going with one of those RCA to XLR type cables. I have run it both balenced XLR and unbalenced rcas on the 7030. XLR had a lower noise floor and got rid of the ground loop hum type problem I was having with running very good rcas. I'm a true believer in XLR.
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Boss,

the way I read Andrew Robinson's post is that the output itself is not balanced.

I admit I may not be understanding it correctly - but that's how it reads to me. I've asked for clarification in the thread in a neutral manner.

I can tell you that if both XLR and RCA are feed from an unbalanced output to the 7-350 sherbourn amp the gain structure is identical. I just tested it with my omnimic. Both were 85dB on the button when I used a hosa RCA to XLR and a hosa RCA to RCA from my AVR to my 7350. (my Onkyo TX-NR1007 AVR does not have balanced outputs)

On a separate note - my hosa eight cable snake came in, and they appear to be introducing a bit of buzz to the system that I hadn't noticed as much before. I'm not sure if it's that I noticed it and now can't unotice it - or if the cable snake isn't as properly shielded as would be ideal. Perhaps the Emotiva set wouldn't be bad afterall? I'll keep playing with this and report back.

The part that I highlighted above is what I'm referring to......

That was the problem with your test. When you use a rca to xlr type cable you imediately terminate one of the leads in the xlr effectively removing all of the benefits that an XLR brings.
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Oybub1952 - what speakers are you driving?

I doubt I could tell a difference blind between my Onkyo TX-NR1007 and my P-350, and I have some experimentation to back up my thoughts --- but I also have some really efficient JTR Noesis 228HT speakers. I can see there potentially being a difference if you have very low sensitivity speakers and are running full range -- perhaps.

You hit the nail on the head. If you are using highly efficient speakers and running them crossed over you are really limiting what makes the amplifier so special. I have my fronts crossed over at 60hz but they are a 6 ohm speaker that is only 86 dbs so the extra power is a thing of beauty.
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I'm running Polk Rti a9's. Like 90db.. But the whole system was new ..I thought my speakers were bright almost shrill but after breaking in and new amp they've warmed up.. Speakers are full range, subs should be coming in this week . You might be right about the Onkyo . I know the reviews on the 818 say they may be a throwback to the 805 and 806 series .. Copper rails and copper screws .. I might have just gotten lucky but I still like the PA seven .. My last nice set up was 20 years ago . Nakimichi PA seven. Robert Grodinski preamp and Apogee speakers. .. I don't know much about the technical stuff I was running stereo but I know what I like to hear from my system .. The second amp is sitting in my living room soon to be hooked up to mags 1.7 in my bedroom..not sure if Sherbourn is made for two channel work . What does every think ? Or should I pick up mono 's ? I also pretty much just stream internet radio from Onkyo .. What is the best way to access Slacker , pandora etc. and is any one better then another ? Thanks
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Sherbourn can be used just fine in two channel and it over doubles down on wattage if used in that capacity, according to bench tests I read - so if you need a very powerful stereo amp the 7-350 amp can just let the two stereo channels sip from the entire power pool typically meant for seven speakers.

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Thanks Archaea.. I think I read somewhere like 800 watts running three channels into 4 ohm. Just wasn't sure if it would do any harm just running two channels. I like your choice of words. Sip.. I never heard Maggies but my Apogee's were ribbons and every review I've read swears by them. So I thought I just jump in and get the 1.7's. Now that I have my amp and know my speakers I guess I need a pre-amp.. Was thinking of Emo xda-2. They are on sale for 299. I'm not a fan boy but they seem to make decent stuff and stand behind their products.
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You guys should really think about starting a PA 7-350 discussion thread and letting this one in Great Found Deals rest in peace now that they're all gone and the deal is done. 

 

I, and I'm sure lots of others who missed out on the deal get excited every time something pops up here thinking maybe more have come available, only to find that it's just a usage discussion among those that have them. :(

 

Your discussions on the application of the PA 7-350 would make a great addition to the Amplifiers section of AVS forums and would help anyone else looking for info on this incredible amp.

 

Congrats to everyone who was lucky enough to land one of these beauties. Enjoy!

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Sounds like a great idea, Archaea you want start it I'll subscribe.
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Somebody lead and I'll follow.. Seems like as soon as I get here everyone wants to close the room. I've been called the kiss of death before ..and life goes on. Hip pity hop..
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Ok official thread here! Come on over everyone, post pics and perhaps details of your system

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1496904/sherbourn-pa-7350-official-thread
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Here's the thread, figured I'd give it a go:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1496905/the-official-sherbourn-pa-7-350-amp-discussion-thread#post_23883904

Video - Panasonic VT50 55" | Panasonic BDT320
AVR - Denon X4000 | Sherbourn PA 7-350
Speakers - JTR Noesis 228HT | DIY Sound Group Volt V10 | JTR Captivator S2
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1 second apart! Mods can close either one, I tried to include some useful links to get us started..

Video - Panasonic VT50 55" | Panasonic BDT320
AVR - Denon X4000 | Sherbourn PA 7-350
Speakers - JTR Noesis 228HT | DIY Sound Group Volt V10 | JTR Captivator S2
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Cool I certainly don't care how do we close ?
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Let's close the one I generated and I will add some links to yours em smile.gif
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Either way is fine with me, this thread should be a big help when I get a new AVR and the JTR speakers and put the Sherbourn into use!

Video - Panasonic VT50 55" | Panasonic BDT320
AVR - Denon X4000 | Sherbourn PA 7-350
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I already asked the mods to close mine. And I posted a link of the owners manual on yours. Let's get a rolling with some pics!
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The Onkyo 515 should be adequate at 100 watts to power Kef's at room level, and Sony ES is good quality. I have an Onkyo TX-NR1007 and I'm happy with the sound. I thought it sounded identical to the Onkyo 805 I had before the 1007, and I thought the 805 was similar to the flagship Denon 5300 I had before it. I admit I'm still toying with the PT-7030 idea. Can you elaborate a bit on what differences you noticed? Night and Day how? What sensitivity are the C-50's? I google searched but didn't see that model. I'm familiar with Klipsch lineup. What improvements have you seen? I get close to pulling the trigger on the PT-7030, but there are three things overall that prevent my purchase so far

1) no radio tuner
2) 1 sub output
3) reference level volume isn't 0

All three can be worked around. I talked to another guy who went from an Onkyo TX-NR3009 to a PT-7030 and he said honestly - except for the faceplate now matching his sherbourn 7-350 amp he couldn't tell much difference, and was wondering if he didn't actually downgrade a bit because of the extra bells and whistles on the 3009 like dual independent sub outs and Audyssey XT32.

I don't use Audyssey on my own Onkyo 1007 - so the Audyssey thing isn't a deal breaker. More curious about the sound.

Well the difference was the sound field became much larger and deeper and instruments, voices, and other sounds were pinpointed within the context of this much larger and deeper sound image. The rest of the improvement in how the speakers feel i out down to the power of the 7-350.
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It's all about timing.. I was hanging out at Emotiva Lounge just reading when I came across a post from one of the girls from Emo. This was hours before Dan did his podcast..I wasn't even a member..My first shipping # was 1325.. I bought the PA-7350 within minutes and a 4z-75 ..I could have had everything. I had just bought an Onkyo 818 and the Rtia9's , Csia6 and Fxi6's and thought I bought enough stuff. Wish I had gotten the cd-1 and pre-1 ...I am building a HT for my granddaughter..I had a installer come in to hang the zt-65 and he started to play with the Sherbourn..Within minutes it blew and I was on the phone with Cory ( Emo ) got an RMA and they paid shipping both ways. While I was waiting for the repair and return , I heard of a another shipment of PA-7350's and not knowing the outcome of the fix I pulled the trigger again. So long story long. I have two of them..unrestrained is the word that comes to mind. Effortless works also..no hum. Very quiet..And a beast..what a difference from Onkyo 818 to Sherbourn ..looking to pick up a couple of other pieces while Emo has their Xmas sale going on. This hobby can be addicting..

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I doubt I could tell a difference blind between my Onkyo TX-NR1007 and my P-350, and I have some experimentation to back up my thoughts --- but I also have some really efficient JTR Noesis 228HT speakers. I can see there potentially being a difference if you have very low sensitivity speakers and are running full range -- perhaps.
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Oybub1952 - what speakers are you driving?

I doubt I could tell a difference blind between my Onkyo TX-NR1007 and my P-350, and I have some experimentation to back up my thoughts --- but I also have some really efficient JTR Noesis 228HT speakers. I can see there potentially being a difference if you have very low sensitivity speakers and are running full range -- perhaps.
You might be right. I'm bi amping passive vertical and I don't hear a difference .. I think with the Sherbourn there is the headroom. Just seemed to be easier to drive. I have Rti A9 and they rate 50-500 watts ..I'm thinking of getting another Onkyo 818 for bedroom . I think they have the pt-7020c4 for sale eBay right now 299 plus shipping . I'll post link later but I think there are only two left
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