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Just back from NAB 2013, industry consultants Ron Williams, Geoffrey Tully, and Michael Heiss reveal what they saw at the show, including lots of 4K news from Sony ($700 "hatbox" 4K server, smaller 4K displays), Red (RedRay 4K player nearing availability, laser projector MIA), Black Magic (4K video camera under $4000), and others; demos of 8K and 22.2-channel sound from NHK; the next generation of ATSC broadcast standards; next-gen HDMI vs. DisplayPort, Thunderbolt, and HDBaseT; answers to chat-room questions; and more.

 


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"do the math, 7680 by 4320 by 10 or 12 bit color by 120 frames...dems a lot a bits."

lmao, so true.

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Another solid interview Scott. For average joes like me, alot of this is still pretty pie-in-the-sky, but it was interesting to hear about some of the tech in development for distribution of 4k (and maybe eventually 8k?) content. Sounds like there are still some fairly big hurdles to get over though before these new hirez formats can be widely adopted by average consumers.


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Another solid interview Scott. For average joes like me, alot of this is still pretty pie-in-the-sky, but it was interesting to hear about some of the tech in development for distribution of 4k (and maybe eventually 8k?) content. Sounds like there are still some fairly big hurdles to get over though before these new hirez formats can be widely adopted by average consumers.


Thanks! I totally agree that 4K and 8K are not ready for prime time yet, but the NAB show clearly demonstrated that they are coming down the pike at a pretty fast clip.


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What is NAB?

That's one thing that drives me NUTS about AVS forum; everyone thinks that everyone else understands their acronyms.

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What is NAB?

That's one thing that drives me NUTS about AVS forum; everyone thinks that everyone else understands their acronyms.


Very good point! I'm sorry I didn't make that clear; I try to be as inclusive as possible, but I sometimes forget. NAB = National Association of Broadcasters, the professional organization that represents radio and TV broadcasters and content creators. The products on display at the show are cameras, recorders, pro monitors, editing systems, lighting, etc. This is all of most interest to pros, but it also affects what consumers see and hear, which is why I think it's important for this audience. Plus, it's fun to hear about all the new stuff coming down the pike.


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Thanks! I guess I should have known that.

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Thanks! I totally agree that 4K and 8K are not ready for prime time yet, but the NAB show clearly demonstrated that they are coming down the pike at a pretty fast clip.

 

Just wanted you to know some of us were listenin. wink.gif

 

I'm a little surprised there haven't been more takers on this topic. There was a time no so long ago when just about every Blu-ray discussion here seemed to devolve into a 2k vs. 4k debate. Now that 4k is basically a done-deal though, I guess it isn't quite as sexy a subject anymore.

 

As a (former?) TV viewer though, what I'm actually more interested in are developments in film-to-digital (2k or 4k) workflows, because imho the quality of TV production has gone way down due to the increased use of digital video capture (vs. film capture). Might be an interesting topic for another episode. There's a somewhat related discussion here btw...

 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467058/anyone-else-here-missing-out-on-the-current-golden-age-of-television

 

I also enjoyed your recent THX Certification and Video Calibration episodes, which can be found at the following link (in case anyone's havin trouble figurin out where this stuff goes after it scrolls off the home page)...

 

http://www.avsforum.com/f/138/avs-forum-radio-show


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"do the math, 7680 by 4320 by 10 or 12 bit color by 120 frames...dems a lot a bits."
 

 

It just depends on your perspective.


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Now that 4k is basically a done-deal though, I guess it isn't quite as sexy a subject anymore.

 

Whoops! Looks like I might have spoken to soon. smile.gif

 

I would not get my hopes too high for the 4K Bridge on the River Kwai btw. I own the (2K) BD which was probably made from the same 4K master, and sometimes it looks pretty good, but other times not so much. The title sequence looks absolutely abysmal, the color is pretty badly degraded in most of the nighttime scenes, and the level of detail (and PQ in general) gets noticeably worse whenever there's a dissolving transition between scenes, which is fairly common in this film. (LoA does a much better job of maintaining LOD in these kinds of transitions.) Many of the daylight scenes in BotRK will probably look quite good at 4K though.


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