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EDIT: I added the ISFccc Tag which shows which Professionals can/will also enable the Pioneer Elite's ISFccc Interface and for which Generation ([8G] and/or [9G] and/or [M] for 9G Elite Signature Monitor ISFccc Support).

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David Abrams at Avical - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (LA metro based).
Eliab Alvarez de la Campa at Avical - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (NY metro based).
Kevin Miller - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the New York Tri-state area: NYC, Long Island, Southern CT, and Central and Northern New Jersey.
Tom Huffman - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Washington D.C. and Maryland/Virginia suburbs.
Stephen Cooper at Digital Video Calibrations - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Jacksonville Florida and the surrounding areas.
Frank Kondilis - ISFccc [9G] - Scottsdale Arizona (only calibrating existing customers and their referrals).
Gregg Loewen at Lion AV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - New England and Eastern Seaboard down to the greater DC area, Florida, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego and Maritime Canada.
Michael Chen at The Laser Video Experience / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Tours - Calgary & Edmonton and Central / Southern Alberta and the adjacent Provinces.
Michael Hamilton at The Real Picture / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Scottsdale Arizona based.
Doug Weil at Clearly Resolved / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (covering AR, GA, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, MI, MN, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, SC, SD, TN, TX) from St. Louis.
David Evans at 21st Century Calibrations Inc. - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Fairview Oregon based and Servicing all of Oregon / Washington and the Boise Idaho area.
Chad Billheimer at HDTVbyChadB.com - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Ohio/Virginia based - Tours to Texas, New York, Minnesota, Florida, Chicago, Baltimore and most areas in between.
Zygmunt Wojewoda at Perfect Home Theater - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New England (Chestnut Hill Massachusetts based).
Ken Whitcomb at Calibrations, Inc. - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Indianapolis Indiana based.
Eric Hedin at Core Control Systems - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Serving the New York Greater Capital Region.
Kevin McKee at Home Definition - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Red Bank New Jersey based.
Glenn Zink at Video Calibration Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Laguna Niguel California based.
Robert Busch at Busch Home Theater - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (San Francisco/Bay Area based).
Glen Carter at Home Theater Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California from Whittier.
Greta E Colgan at Beyond The Studs - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Wilmington Delaware based.
Michael Osadciw at The Highest Fidelity - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Yukon & Northwest Territories (Call 905-730-5996).
William Powell at Alpha Video Systems - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Chattanooga Tennessee (Call 423-698-8618).
David Voncannon at D & E Associates - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California, Culver City based (Call 310-628-1170).
Richard Stokes at Finely Tuned - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Vancouver BC Canada.
Lee Gallagher at Advanced Audio Visual - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the entire state of Arizona from Phoenix.
Frank Kondrot at Day 1 Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Orange Co. California from Laguna Hills.
Scott Schackel at Beeswing Audio Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Northern California from Redwood City.
Helmut Kaczmarek at Finaltouch AV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California, Santa Clarita based (Call 818-269-1427).
Milton Krueger at Audio Video Guys - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Houston Texas.
Doug Blackburn at dB theatriCAL - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Colorado and surrounding States from Colorado Springs.
Branden Pirot at Home Theatre Projections - Serving a 60 mile radius around Dallas Oregon (Call 503-949-6845).
Robert Jones (Mr Bob) at Image Perfection - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving San Fransicso California from San Lorenzo.
Barry VanDenBerg at Orlando Digital TV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Florida from Orlando.

Chris Eberle at Precision Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Florida from Orlando.
Mark Kaye at AVFusion - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Eastern Ontario & Western Quebec.
Gary Mollura at Custom Audio Video Calibrations - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Upstate NY including Binghamton, Elmira, Ithaca, Utica, Watertown, Elmira, and Auburn from Syracuse, NY.
Fred Dietzel at Enhanced Audio & Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving South central Pennsylvania.
Paul Thorsen at Experience Home Theatre - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Vancouver lowermainland, Fraser Valley, Vancouver Island, Okanagan, Sunshine Coast and Whistler BC Canada.
Shawn Byrne at Sound Advice AV Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Arkansas and Iowa.
Summit HDTV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the Southeast Michigan area, Jackson, MI, Lansing, MI and Toledo, OH.
Michael Combs at Definitive Audio - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Washington State from Seattle (only calibrating displays they sell).
Max Delo at Definitive Audio - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Washington State from Seattle (only calibrating displays they sell).
Jon Spackman at Creative Concept Sound Solutions - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California from Aliso Viejo, CA.
Anthony Lester at ClearPoint - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Greenville South Carolina and the surrounding States.
David Hancock at Hancock Technologies - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Western New York including Rochester, Buffalo & Syracuse.
Don Brooks at Accurate Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland & DC.
Tom Werner at The Audio Artisans - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving MT, ID, ND, SD and WY from Bozeman, Montana.
Jeremy Wilson at Condrum - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Illinois from Downers Grove.
Jeff DeBonis at Precision AV Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Ohio and Western PA from Chagrin Falls Ohio.
Ed Johnson at EJ Video Calibration LLC - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New York.
Sonny DiFranco at Home Theatre Guru - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Texas from Austin.
Andrew Pustizzi at Signature Home Theaters - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New Jersey from Vineland.
Jeff Davis at Depth of Clarity - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Calgary and Southern Alberta Canada (Call 403-875-6731).
Bill Blaylock at Austin Audio Tech - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Austin Texas and surrounding areas.
Donald McLaughlin at Precision Video Calibrations - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving north central and central Florida.
Lyle Corbin at Crystal Clear Home Theater - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Seattle’s Eastside and Metropolitan areas.
Charles Cooper at CineTune AV - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Georgia from Norcross.
Glen Watase at WDS AV Interiors - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Hawaii.
Cooper Stofer at LAVA - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the greater Lexington KY area.
John Bartolotta at JB Home Theatre Calibrations - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Long Island & New York City Vicinity.
Greg Erianne at All High Def - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the entire state of Connecticut; based in Watertown, CT (Call 203-206-9116).
James Yun at HTS (Hippo Tech Solutions) - ISFccc [M] - Serving the San Francisco Bay Area.

Do not calibrate the 9G Non-Elites, but these Professionals do calibrate the Elites:
Jeff Meier at AccuCal - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, IA, IL, IN, KS, LA, MA, MD, ME, MO, MS, NC, NJ, NV, NH, NY, OK, OH, PN, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA, WI, WV).
Craig Heim at simpleHome - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Full service integrator serving New England (Westborough, Massachusetts based with satellite office in Stowe, VT).
Pete Nelsen at Attuned Audio & Video Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Serving Broad Brook, Connecticut.

Also, D-Nice does Calibrations.
D-Nice - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving all of South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia, Columbia South Carolina based.


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Have a KRP-500M or KRP-600M that you want Patched and/or Professionally Calibrated? See this LIST for Professionals that can.


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ARIZONA
Frank Kondilis - ISFccc [9G] - Scottsdale Arizona (only calibrating existing customers and their referrals).
Michael Hamilton at The Real Picture / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Scottsdale Arizona based.
Lee Gallagher at Advanced Audio Visual - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the entire state of Arizona from Phoenix.

CALIFORNIA
David Abrams at Avical - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (Los Angeles metro based).
Glenn Zink at Video Calibration Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Laguna Niguel California based.
Robert Busch at Busch Home Theater - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (San Francisco/Bay Area based).
Glen Carter at Home Theater Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California from Whittier.
David Voncannon at D & E Associates - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California, Culver City based (Call 310-628-1170).
Frank Kondrot at Day 1 Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Orange Co. California from Laguna Hills.
Scott Schackel at Beeswing Audio Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Northern California from Redwood City.
Helmut Kaczmarek at Finaltouch AV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California, Santa Clarita based (Call 818-269-1427).
Robert Jones (Mr Bob) at Image Perfection - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving San Fransicso California from San Lorenzo.
Jon Spackman at Creative Concept Sound Solutions - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern California and NW Mexico from Aliso Viejo, CA.
James Yun at HTS (Hippo Tech Solutions) - ISFccc [M] - Serving the San Francisco Bay Area.

COLORADO
Doug Blackburn at dB theatriCAL - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Colorado and surrounding States from Colorado Springs.

CONNECTICUT
Pete Nelsen at Attuned Audio & Video Services - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Serving Broad Brook, Connecticut.
Greg Erianne at All High Def - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the entire state of Connecticut; based in Watertown, CT (Call 203-206-9116).

DELAWARE
Greta E Colgan at Beyond The Studs - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Wilmington Delaware based.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Tom Huffman - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Washington D.C. and Maryland/Virginia suburbs.

FLORIDA
Stephen Cooper at Digital Video Calibrations - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Jacksonville Florida and the surrounding areas.
Barry VanDenBerg at Orlando Digital TV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Florida from Orlando.
Donald McLaughlin at Precision Video Calibrations - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving north central and central Florida.

Chris Eberle at Precision Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Florida from Orlando.

Buzz Schranz at Naples Display Calibration - Southwest Florida and Central Wisconsin

GEORGIA
Charles Cooper at CineTune AV - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Georgia from Norcross.

HAWAII
Glen Watase at WDS AV Interiors - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Hawaii.

INDIANA
Ken Whitcomb at Calibrations, Inc. - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Indianapolis Indiana based.

ILLINOIS
Jeremy Wilson at Condrum - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Illinois from Downers Grove.

KANSAS
Shawn Byrne at Sound Advice AV Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Arkansas and Iowa.

KENTUCKY
Cooper Stofer at LAVA - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the greater Lexington KY area.

MAINE
Gregg Loewen at Lion AV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - New England and Eastern Seaboard down to the greater DC area, Florida, Las Vegas, Los Angeles and San Diego.

MASSACHUSETTS
Zygmunt Wojewoda at Perfect Home Theater - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New England (Chestnut Hill Massachusetts based).

MICHIGAN
Summit HDTV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the Southeast Michigan area, Jackson, MI, Lansing, MI and Toledo, OH.

MISSOURI
Doug Weil at Clearly Resolved / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (covering AR, GA, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, MI, MN, MO, NC, ND, OH, OK, SC, SD, TN, TX) from St. Louis.
Jeff Meier at AccuCal - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - No 9G Non-Elites -National Tours (AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, IA, IL, IN, KS, LA, MA, MD, ME, MO, MS, NC, NJ, NV, NH, NY, OK, OH, PN, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA, WI, WV).

MONTANA
Tom Werner at The Audio Artisans - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving MT, ID, ND, SD and WY from Bozeman, Montana.

NEW JERSEY
Kevin McKee at Home Definition - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Red Bank New Jersey based.
Don Brooks at Accurate Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland & DC.
Andrew Pustizzi at Signature Home Theaters - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New Jersey from Vineland.

NEW YORK
Eliab Alvarez de la Campa at Avical - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (NY metro based).
Kevin Miller - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving the New York Tri-state area: NYC, Long Island, Southern CT, and Central and Northern New Jersey.
Eric Hedin at Core Control Systems - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Serving the New York Greater Capital Region.
Gary Mollura at Custom Audio Video Calibrations - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Upstate NY including Binghamton, Elmira, Ithaca, Utica, Watertown, Elmira, and Auburn from Syracuse, NY.
David Hancock at Hancock Technologies - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Western New York including Rochester, Buffalo & Syracuse.
Ed Johnson at EJ Video Calibration LLC - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving New York.
John Bartolotta at JB Home Theatre Calibrations - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Long Island & New York City Vicinity.

OHIO
Chad Billheimer at HDTVbyChadB.com - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Ohio/Virginia based - Tours to Texas, New York, Minnesota, Florida, Chicago, Baltimore and most areas in between.
Jeff DeBonis at Precision AV Calibration - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Ohio and Western PA from Chagrin Falls Ohio.

OREGON
David Evans at 21st Century Calibrations Inc. - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Fairview Oregon based and Servicing all of Oregon / Washington and the Boise Idaho area.
Branden Pirot at Home Theatre Projections - Serving a 60 mile radius around Dallas Oregon (Call 503-949-6845).

PENNSYLVANIA
Fred Dietzel at Enhanced Audio & Video - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving South central Pennsylvania.

SOUTH CAROLINA
D-Nice - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving all of South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia, Columbia South Carolina based.
Anthony Lester at ClearPoint - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Greenville South Carolina and the surrounding States.

TENNESSEE
William Powell at Alpha Video Systems - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Chattanooga Tennessee (Call 423-698-8618).

TEXAS
Milton Krueger at Audio Video Guys - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Houston Texas.
Sonny DiFranco at Home Theatre Guru - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Central Texas from Austin.
Bill Blaylock at Austin Audio Tech - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Austin Texas and surrounding areas.

WASHINGTON
Michael Combs at Definitive Audio - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Washington State from Seattle (only calibrating displays they sell).
Max Delo at Definitive Audio - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Washington State from Seattle (only calibrating displays they sell).
Lyle Corbin at Crystal Clear Home Theater - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Seattle’s Eastside and Metropolitan areas.

Tyler Pruitt at Bionic AV - Seattle & Western Washington.




CANADA
Gregg Loewen at Lion AV - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Maritime Canada.
Michael Chen at The Laser Video Experience / Lion AV Affiliate - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Tours - Calgary & Edmonton and Central / Southern Alberta and the adjacent Provinces.
Michael Osadciw at The Highest Fidelity - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Southern Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Yukon & Northwest Territories (Call 905-730-5996).
Richard Stokes at Finely Tuned - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Vancouver BC Canada.
Mark Kaye at AVFusion - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Eastern Ontario & Western Quebec.
Paul Thorsen at Experience Home Theatre - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Vancouver lowermainland, Fraser Valley, Vancouver Island, Okanagan, Sunshine Coast and Whistler BC Canada.
Jeff Davis at Depth of Clarity - ISFccc [7G] [8G] [9G] [M] - Serving Calgary and Southern Alberta Canada (Call 403-875-6731).





Do not calibrate the 9G Non-Elites, but these Professionals do calibrate the Elites:
Jeff Meier at AccuCal - ISFccc [8G] [9G] [M] - National Tours (AL, AR, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, IA, IL, IN, KS, LA, MA, MD, ME, MO, MS, NC, NJ, NV, NH, NY, OK, OH, PN, RI, SC, TN, TX, VA, WI, WV).
Craig Heim at simpleHome - ISFccc [8G] [9G] - Full service integrator serving New England (Westborough, Massachusetts based with satellite office in Stowe, VT).


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Wait...Tom and Kevin have confirmed that they will do these calibrations?!?!
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Wait...Tom and Kevin have confirmed that they will do these calibrations?!?!

Kevin has actually calibrated a 9G Non-Elite... In an email this morning, he said he will be posting on his Blog (and perhaps another Forum) but he's pretty slammed right now with CEDIA approaching.

Kevin and David have confirmed to me that they will calibrate these and Tom can now calibrate the 9G Non-Elites.

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Kevin has actually calibrated a 9G Non-Elite... He will be posting on his Blog (and perhaps another Forum) but he's pretty slammed right now with CEDIA approaching.

...wow. I missed this entirely. I only knew of the work D-Nice has been doing. Where is Kevin's blog? I doubt anyone will be doing these calibrations in my area. (Indianapolis)
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Click his name in Post #1 though I don't think he will Post until he gets back from CEDIA.

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If David Abrams (based in Los Angeles) is going to be calibrating non-Elite 9G Kuro models, then I expect that his partner Eliab (based in New York City) will too.

They both do extensive tours.
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Turbe, thanks for the info!

Are there any additional details on what exactly is going to be calibrated on the 9G NEs? Rumor has it that adjusting color temp & grayscale via the SM affects all AV modes equally, and there is no way to modify color settings for each mode independently. Would pro calibration then focus on Movie mode, or is it now possible to make fine tuned adjustments to all modes?

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Turbe, thanks for the info!

Are there any additional details on what exactly is going to be calibrated on the 9G NEs? Rumor has it that adjusting color temp & grayscale via the SM affects all AV modes equally, and there is no way to modify color settings for each mode independently. Would pro calibration then focus on Movie mode, or is it now possible to make fine tuned adjustments to all modes?

Thanks again!
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You can only calibrate the 9G NEs grayscale. This is identical to what could be done on the 8G NEs.

I have yet to test reprogramming other A/V modes to use the same color temp selection. Sounds like a weekend experiment for me
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A change of heart for Tom Huffman on calibration of 9G Non-Elites?
Good stuff.

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This is identical to what could be done on the 8G NEs.

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A change of heart for Tom Huffman on calibration of 9G Non-Elites?
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You can only calibrate the 9G NEs grayscale. This is identical to what could be done on the 8G NEs.

I have yet to test reprogramming other A/V modes to use the same color temp selection. Sounds like a weekend experiment for me

U da man!

If it turns out that no significant changes can be persisted to the other A/V modes then it would be helpful to see if the net result of the global change to grayscale is a good one.

You've already commented of course that they will all be somewhat cooler, naturally. Hopefully it's a net gain.

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You can only calibrate the 9G NEs grayscale. This is identical to what could be done on the 8G NEs.


So the color accuracy will still be poor?
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No change of heart. A change in information. I never objected to this in principle as some have. It was just that until very recently I had no reliable information that it was even possible. ISF has STILL not officially confirmed that it is possible.

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So the color accuracy will still be poor?

I'd answer this question if I did not doubt that you understand the term "color accuracy".
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So the color accuracy will still be poor?

Well, obviously the color of white will be better, which is part of color accuracy. I believe that the color decoding is pretty good to begin with, though I haven't measured one yet. However, the red and green color points will still be considerably oversaturated, unless someone can figure out how to select Color Space 2 and get it to stick. As of yet, this does not seem to work.

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I'd answer this question if I did not doubt that you understand the term "color accuracy".


Funny. But i know what a accurate image looks like. I don't need measurements on a piece of paper or a graph to tell me.
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Funny. But i know what a accurate image looks like. I don't need measurements on a piece of paper or a graph to tell me.

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This is why someone like you will pay hundreds for someone to tell you your tv is "perfect" lol.


If your opinion actually mattered to me, I would actually take a step to think about this comment, but considering your track record, I can only read this, and chuckle
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If any other of these calibrators has professionally adjusted this set it would be nice to hear their assessment on what kind of results they were able to acheive.

-What mode did they calibrate? - It would seem most do movie mode but we've also seen standard mode used.

-How did the change in global grayscale impact the quality of the other A/V modes?

-Where did the grayscale start at out of box and where id it end up?

-How effective are the user controls in averaging out any errors in color accuracy that might remain after grayscale is calibrated?

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If any other of these calibrators has professionally adjusted this set it would be nice to hear their assessment on what kind of results they were able to acheive.

-What mode did they calibrate? - It would seem most do movie mode but we've also seen standard mode used.

-How did the change in global grayscale impact the quality of the other A/V modes?

-Where did the grayscale start at out of box and where id it end up?

-How effective are the user controls in averaging out any errors in color accuracy that might remain after grayscale is calibrated?

I totally agree. I'm ready to pull the trigger on a calibration by D Abrams but want to know if it's worth it! Anyone?
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If any other of these calibrators has professionally adjusted this set it would be nice to hear their assessment on what kind of results they were able to acheive.

-What mode did they calibrate? - It would seem most do movie mode but we've also seen standard mode used.

-How did the change in global grayscale impact the quality of the other A/V modes?

-Where did the grayscale start at out of box and where id it end up?

-How effective are the user controls in averaging out any errors in color accuracy that might remain after grayscale is calibrated?
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Drop that brightness control a click or 2 (most likely 1 click will do it) and the Gamma should snap right to 2.2

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Drop that brightness control a click or 2 (most likely 1 click will do it) and the Gamma should snap right to 2.2

Nope....is will cause severe black crush

The 9G non-Elites are spec'ed to a 2.1 gamma after calibration.
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I did calibrate an older Pioneer Elite Plasma the other day and I do have to say that it had very coarse controls, so I guess I should have figured out black crush with even a click down.

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