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Hi,

I'm going to start calibrating my Epson 8700UB. However, I think I'm going to first go through the basic approach--just something to set my contrast, brightness, black levels, and anything else would be a plus.

I heard the Disney WOW disc is a great disc for this.

Thoughts?
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Much has been discussed already on the merits and limitations of the Disney program. Try the forum's search features. Alternative programs are also discussed in the same threads. The best options out there are: 'Disney WOW,' 'Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics,' and 'Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark.' There is unique learning in each. Another option is the free download, 'AVS HD 709' program here in the forum.
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Hi,

I'm going to start calibrating my Epson 8700UB. However, I think I'm going to first go through the basic approach--just something to set my contrast, brightness, black levels, and anything else would be a plus.

I heard the Disney WOW disc is a great disc for this.

Thoughts?
Do this instead.

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Great link. Thanks guys. I figure this should be the first step in any calibration. Helps get your feet wet, and it seems manageable for even beginners.
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Wondering if I should calibrate in "normal" or "eco" mode....

hmm...opinions?
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Wondering if I should calibrate in "normal" or "eco" mode....

hmm...opinions?

Do both and save the settings in separate setup memories.
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These are the results I've gotten with the AVS disc:


Doing the Tint and Saturation was the hardest. It requires you to use a blue filter. What I did, was use a pair of old-school 3D glasses, and just looked through the blue lens.



I have my PS3 set to "limited" and super white to ON.

First off, these calibrations stomp the stock settings. I even reset it to factory default, and compared my setting with the stock "Theater Black 2".

Qualitatively, after calibration, the colors were more pronounced, but never to the point of being saturated. The blacks seemed a bit inkier, and the whites seemed more balanced. It brought back some of the "pop" that I was missing when I replaced my 8700UB with a refurbished one via Epson. This one definitely needed some calibration.

You can't see the sharpness setting, but basically, I left that at "0"

Those settings make sense?
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Those settings make sense?

Yes, of course. The patterns for setting black and white level are the same as a pro calibrator will use. Color and tint are worth something but you need to know that while adjusting one color and one hue you are also adjusting the other other primary and secondary colors simultaneously and that may actually take them away from HD standards. That's okay though, use your eyes from that point on.

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"SUper Resolution" I typically leave at 1. It's very nice at "2" when watching a DVD without adding visible artifacts to my eyes.

I see these captures being used from time to time on the forum:

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Those settings make sense?

I'm not familiar with your projector, but I doubt the accuracy of your color and tint method. Most displays tend to have tint close at the default setting, and a quick search of http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=tint returned posted tint settings close to what I figure would be the default. It's also unlikely a manufacturer would tend to deliver a low color setting. Personally I would just leave the color and tint at the default setting if you don't have a way to try to calibrate it.
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Well, using the blue screen of the 3D glasses that I had, I would definitely say that the tint and color needed to be adjusted to match the "bar" in darkness from the AVS disc. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me...I went back through and checked twice, and I agree with those settings.

If need an actual "official" blue screen to look through, is there anything out there that I could buy?

I clicked on your link, and I didn't really get anything but page 1 of the Epson 8700UB thread.
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There's http://www.costore.com/thx/producten...=87&pid=930793 or other options are mentioned in the PDF. Generally I'm not a fan of filters, because on some digital displays I've looked at color filters weren't any better than default color and tint settings when compared to measurements.
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Could I use the scenes in the captures above to adjust these two back to "0" and just compare what the difference is?
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Which is more correct?

The top image is my calibration settings in "Theater Black 2", lamp on "normal" mode

Bottom image is the stock settings in "Theater Black 2", lamp on "Eco" mode




If the top image is incorrect, then I have no problem moving the two settings back to zero. There's nothing I hate more than putting colors in that shouldn't be there. Something tells me that Christian Bale's face isn't suppose to be that red.

Thanks a ton for your guy's help. If anything with this calibration disc, I've successfully set my contrast and brightness.
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I will say, that the top image that I posted is far more red that what I am seeing on the screen. The camera must have added some red into the photo

I think your correct. I actually prefer the tint and saturation being a 0.

Thanks for the help guys!
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