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post #1 of 17 Old 01-20-2012, 09:47 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi all,

This movie has, hands DOWN the most technically beautiful picture of any film I've EVER seen. I was so impressed with the staggering overall "quality" (ie, color, sharpness, vividness, depth and realism of the blacks, etc), that I had to actually look it up on google. On IMDB I think I found the reason why. Terrance Malick apparently is some kind of technical obsessive compulsive when it comes to the presentation of his film to an audience.

IMDB "trivia" section on "The Tree of Life":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478304/trivia

Critical excerpts from the link:
Terrence Malick wrote a letter of instruction to every projectionist showing The Tree of Life. His requests were:
1. Project the film in 1.85:1 aspect ratio.
2. Set the fader on Dolby and DTS systems to 7.5 or 7.7 (higher than the standard setting of 7).
3. With no opening credits, he asks that the "lights down cue is well before the opening frame of reel 1.
4. Projection lamps should be at "Proper standard (5400 Kelvin)" and that the "foot Lambert level is at Standard 14."

I think that the people who had an advanced quality TV professionally calibrated should check this movie out because it may be one of the few films which were created with the intention of presenting a film properly. More directors should adopt this kind of over-zealous adherence to quality.

As with The New World, Terrence Malick and Emmanuel Lubezki laid down a series of parameters (a dogma) to be used throughout the film:
Shoot in available natural light.
Do not underexpose the negative. Keep true blacks.
Preserve the latitude of the image.
Seek maximum resolution and fine grain.
Seek depth with deep focus and stop: "Compose in depth."
Shoot in backlight for continuity and depth.
Use negative fill to avoid light sandwiches (even sources on both sides)
Shoot in crosslight only after dawn or before dusk; never front light.
Avoid lens flares.
Avoid white and primary colors in frame.
Shoot with short focal length, hard lenses.
No filters, except Polarizer.
In the eye of the hurricane, shoot with steady handheld or Steadicam.
Z-axis moves instead of pans and tilts.
No zooming.
Do some static tripod shots "in midst of our haste"
Accept the exception to the dogma (a.k.a Article E) - Article E however does not apply underexposure of the negative.

I have to say, the resulting film is so true to life and real looking that it blew me completely away. Even if you don't like the art of the film, I think there are people on this forum who would be interested in it for it's technical quality. On a side note. The dynamic range of the sound in this film is STAGGERING. Very wide range from a whisper to a crescendo.
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post #2 of 17 Old 01-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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Yeah, Malik and his DP do some excellent work.

Criterion has a great BD release of The Thin Red Line... if you liked the visuals in Tree of Life, you should check that out.
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I just watched this movie on Blu-ray Disc. The picture quality was stunning from a technical standpoint and quite subjectively pleasing as well. I would consider it reference material for visually evaluating a calibrated display.
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I just watched this movie on Blu-ray Disc. The picture quality was stunning from a technical standpoint and quite subjectively pleasing as well. I would consider it reference material for visually evaluating a calibrated display.

Video & audio are truly outstanding but I want to be entertained by my entertainment system. I didn't care for the "movie" at all and was totally bored by the incoherency. Then again, I only gawked at the Mona Lisa for a couple of minutes in the Louvre before moving on so it's probably just me....

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Video & audio are truly outstanding but I want to be entertained by my entertainment system. I didn't care for the "movie" at all and was totally bored by the incoherency. Then again, I only gawked at the Mona Lisa for a couple of minutes in the Louvre before moving on so it's probably just me....

The Mona Lisa was pretty outstanding for its day because the painting techniques Leonardo Da Vinci used had never been seen before. For art history buffs, it's one of the greatest paintings ever. The majority of people go to see it because it's so famous. If you don't care about the historical context, it's pretty boring.
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Although it is a good looking film, that's about all I can say for it .. I'd rather watch something that is actually entertaining ..

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yes, I know the movie wasn't entertaining or coherent
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Was his sixth movie. The guy is 68 so he's kind of done with movies and ready for retirement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Malick
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Was his sixth movie. The guy is 68 so he's kind of done with movies and ready for retirement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Malick

It was his fifth, his sixth is coming out soon, and he has two more in the pipeline.

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Is not proper color temp D65 and not 5400K?

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I used Seabiscuit (Blu-ray) as one of my calibration test movies.
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Is not proper color temp D65 and not 5400K?

Theater projectors and home panels are two different beasts.

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Joel,

What temp or point should I use on a LCD display then vs projector?

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Joel,

What temp or point should I use on a LCD display then vs projector?

Thanks

Theater projectors aka Film Projectors, can't be adjusted.

If you have a Film Projector all the color is on the print and the lamp provides the last bit of color, those lamps without film in front of them is what was being discussed.

HDTV and Blu-Ray are authored for D65, it's the only thing you should calibrate for at home.

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Was his sixth movie. The guy is 68 so he's kind of done with movies and ready for retirement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Malick

How old are you, I wonder......?

Sidney Lumet, Luis Bunuel, Robert Altman, Ingmar Bergman, Akira Kurosawa, Alfred Hitchcock, and John Huston, amongst others would rise from the grave and have you bitchslapped for that.
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How old are you, I wonder......?

Sidney Lumet, Luis Bunuel, Robert Altman, Ingmar Bergman, Akira Kurosawa, Alfred Hitchcock, and John Huston, amongst others would rise from the grave and have you bitchslapped for that.

There is movie-making and there is movie-making. When Kubrick - ^^and since movie making is a visual medium non of those folks you mention are in his league - was at the top of his game he made ''the shining'', he was 52 years old. Don't tell me that a 68 year old guy is at the top of his game

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