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I am looking to get into trying doing my own TV calibration and am wondering which hardware people here recommend in the sub 300$ price point (something that is more advanced than just beginner stuff). Thanks!
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I am looking to get into trying doing my own TV calibration and am wondering which hardware people here recommend in the sub 300$ price point (something that is more advanced than just beginner stuff). Thanks!

the D3 colorimeter is the best device at that price point. If you can spend a bit more ($400-$500), the colormunki spectro is a better choice.
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You might mention the D3 doesn't work with any free software and another $200 will be needed for calibration software.
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You might mention the D3 doesn't work with any free software and another $200 will be needed for calibration software.

good point, but the OP was asking about hardware specifically
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A complete calibration package for $200: http://www2.spectracal.com/shared/we...e58448d3c7d90b

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good point, but the OP was asking about hardware specifically

Thanks - I would want to spend about 300 all in if possible. Looking for the best "bang for the buck"
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Thanks - I would want to spend about 300 all in if possible. Looking for the best "bang for the buck"

In that case, the offer in the link above for the CalMAN/D2 bundle is a better choice than using ColorHCFR.
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In that case, the offer in the link above for the CalMAN/D2 bundle is a better choice than using ColorHCFR.

bingo..that is a great deal..

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bingo..that is a great deal..

Thanks for your responses guys. So you feel the D2 with Calman is better than a "newer" meter with the free software?
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Would that work for a projector as well?
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Thanks for your responses guys. So you feel the D2 with Calman is better than a "newer" meter with the free software?

Th issue there is that there are no newer meters + free software.

The DTP-94 and i1 Display 2 are both out of production, as is the spyder 2. I think only the Spyder3 and i1 Pro are in production and work with HCFR, and the i1 Pro is signifigantly out of your budget,

I would guess the Spyder3 is not long for this world with the recently released Spyder 4.

With HCFR being a dead project it doesn't support any modern hardware.

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Th issue there is that there are no newer meters + free software.

The DTP-94 and i1 Display 2 are both out of production, as is the spyder 2. I think only the Spyder3 and i1 Pro are in production and work with HCFR, and the i1 Pro is signifigantly out of your budget,

I would guess the Spyder3 is not long for this world with the recently released Spyder 4.

With HCFR being a dead project it doesn't support any modern hardware.

Got it - so this deal would be good for what I am looking for? The D2 is a good meter?
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Got it - so this deal would be good for what I am looking for? The D2 is a good meter?

Well you have to start with something. So a D2 is a good start. Getting CalMAN with a D2 to learn and understand the calibration basic is even a better start. There will always be a better meter on the horizon. But the nice thing about CalMAN is we support many meter types with the DIY license and keep adding more as they come out. So after sometime when you need a more advanced meter dump the D2 and get the latest one you can afford. This is why we put this package together is to get people into calibrating and not on the sidelines.

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Got it - so this deal would be good for what I am looking for? The D2 is a good meter?

Look at it this way, Calman with DIY license and no meter is $199. This is a nice deal to get your feet wet and by next Christmas if you get into it, you will have something cool to put on your list.. without having to buy software to.
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A complete calibration package for $200: http://www2.spectracal.com/shared/we...e58448d3c7d90b

I ordered this to get my feet wet...and it comes with two free webinars too if you order in January. Not on weekends, but can't have everything...

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I ordered this to get my feet wet...and it comes with two free webinars too if you order in January. Not on weekends, but can't have everything...

So is the 400$ bundle a much better meter than in the 200$ one, or are they pretty close?
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So is the 400$ bundle a much better meter than in the 200$ one, or are they pretty close?

I would say the i1 Display3 is a Much better meter.

I Believe msrp on the i1 Display 3 is $299, but you can find them for less if you wanted to start with the i1 Display 2 and them upgrade to the 3 later.

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I would say the i1 Display3 is a Much better meter.

I Believe msrp on the i1 Display 3 is $299, but you can find them for less if you wanted to start with the i1 Display 2 and them upgrade to the 3 later.

Is the D3 the one that comes with the $395 bundle?
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Is the D3 the one that comes with the $395 bundle?

Yes it is the D3 OEM.

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the D3 colorimeter is the best device at that price point. If you can spend a bit more ($400-$500), the colormunki spectro is a better choice.

How accurate is that meter, or any consumer-grade meters for that matter, and what are they calibrated against? How long do they typically keep their calibrations (reference settings) before they start to drift? Are the meters re-certifiable for a reasonable cost?
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Yes it is the D3 OEM.

And that is a much higher caliber than the D2 or is the improvement marginal?
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And that is a much higher caliber than the D2 or is the improvement marginal?

I would say it's a bit of a leap performance wise. It reads much darker, is more accurate and should hold it's calibration much longer than a D2.

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Decided to go with the D3 CalMAN bundle - seems universally liked. Im excited!

Next question, what DVD do people recommend using to do the calibration? I heard the HD Basics one doesn't have color patterns, is there one that has everything I need?
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Decided to go with the D3 CalMAN bundle - seems universally liked. Im excited!

Next question, what DVD do people recommend using to do the calibration? I heard the HD Basics one doesn't have color patterns, is there one that has everything I need?

The AVS disc has everything you need to calibrate and it's free, but it doesn't have much in the way of instruction.

The DVE or spears munsil are great in the amount of information they give you to help get the adjustments correct and why you are making the adjustments in the first place.

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The AVS disc has everything you need to calibrate and it's free, but it doesn't have much in the way of instruction.

The DVE or spears munsil are great in the amount of information they give you to help get the adjustments correct and why you are making the adjustments in the first place.

I thought the spears munsil disk does not have all of the display patterns needed for calibration?

I would do the AVS disk, but I don't have a bluray burner
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I thought the spears munsil disk does not have all of the display patterns needed for calibration?

I would do the AVS disk, but I don't have a bluray burner

You don't need a bluray burner, you can burn it on DVD and it should work just fine.

Some players have issues with that, but most work just fine.

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You don't need a bluray burner, you can burn it on DVD and it should work just fine.

Some players have issues with that, but most work just fine.

Ah nice - thanks!
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Hey Guys,

After reading this thread, I'm looking at the "CalMAN DIY Software w/ OEM i1Display" package for $395. However, they're out of stock. Next one up is the "CalMAN DIY w/ i1Display Pro Retail" for $439. Is there anything meaningful for the ~$45 price hike, other than getting the i1Display3 in a retail box?

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Hey Guys,

After reading this thread, I'm looking at the "CalMAN DIY Software w/ OEM i1Display" package for $395. However, they're out of stock. Next one up is the "CalMAN DIY w/ i1Display Pro Retail" for $439. Is there anything meaningful for the ~$45 price hike, other than getting the i1Display3 in a retail box?

Thanks!

You can then use the i1Profiler software to calibrate your PC/Mac displays as well with the retail meter. Their software doesn't support the OEM meter so if you would like to do both, it's worth the extra money IMO.

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Hi,

Where are people seeing this D3 CalMAN bundle? Link please?

Wait... it's this right?

http://store.spectracal.com/consumer...i1display.html

But is this a better deal? Just different software? ($419)

X-Rite EyeOne Display 3 (i1 Display Pro) with ChromaPure Standard
http://www.curtpalme.com/ChromaPure_EyeOneDisplay3.shtm
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