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So you shipped your display to Klein for them to measure?
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No. We share the same metro area, so they brought the unit to my residence for measurement. The ambient light was quite dark in the room (the Minolta was able to measure a 0.005 nit black level).
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HCFR 3.1.3 is back up, let me know how it goes.
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You said you were going to bring it in about a month ago or so…
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Will the software work with X-Rite ColorMunki Display?

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Just used the 3.1.3 version last night and everything worked perfectly. It helped me a lot the hsv bars. Incredible how easy and intuitive this programme has become.
One question : I'm calibrating a vt60 the 55" european model with 10% normal windows. (used almost all of the free patterns available it seems that on the higher models the differences between apl and normal ones are minima except gamma) . How the gamma should be set? power law or with black compensation? (I dismiss ITU:BT for now).Because it alters reading in.the lower ire's quite a lot?
Thank.you Zoyd! You're doing an amazing job on the software.
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HCFR 3.1.3 is back up, let me know how it goes.
Cyan "Hue" bar is a wee bit squirrelly. It kept cycling between +725.x percent and completely gone. Possibly an angle subtraction issue? The RGB bars seem to work ok.

Also, I couldn't figure out what the dE bar was doing. The value didn't match the dE data in the grid ... sometimes it did match up with delta (x,y.) I'm assuming it's just the chromaticity error?

It's getting closer, although, it still wants me to put my red hue one click closer to yellow->green than it should be.
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Just used the 3.1.3 version last night and everything worked perfectly. It helped me a lot the hsv bars. Incredible how easy and intuitive this programme has become.
One question : I'm calibrating a vt60 the 55" european model with 10% normal windows. (used almost all of the free patterns available it seems that on the higher models the differences between apl and normal ones are minima except gamma) . How the gamma should be set? power law or with black compensation? (I dismiss ITU:BT for now).Because it alters reading in.the lower ire's quite a lot?
Thank.you Zoyd! You're doing an amazing job on the software.
Thanks, 10% windows will lead to a bit higher average gamma then APL type but not much. For the vt60 I don't think it will matter if you check black compensation or not.

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Cyan "Hue" bar is a wee bit squirrelly. It kept cycling between +725.x percent and completely gone. Possibly an angle subtraction issue? The RGB bars seem to work ok.
This is fixed now, cyan is at +/- 180 degree hue angle and the display was toggle as the measures flipped sign.

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Also, I couldn't figure out what the dE bar was doing. The value didn't match the dE data in the grid ... sometimes it did match up with delta (x,y.) I'm assuming it's just the chromaticity error?
dE bar was not taking gamma into account for the 75% color space, this is also fixed.

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It's getting closer, although, it still wants me to put my red hue one click closer to yellow->green than it should be.
"should be" by what measure?

[reinstall current build for dE and Hue bar tweaks]

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`Zoyd you are right. For some reason the i1disp pro showed at 0ire some errors. It was reading 0,002cd/m2 before. I've tried the two different gamma settings with an older calibration file and it was almost no difference in gamma chart.
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"should be" by what measure?
Previous results from using the 2.1.x and the RGB bars, and my craptacular spreadsheet using the LCH(uv) data. To be fair, it's a case of "-2" is slightly too "yellow," while "-1" is slightly too "magenta" (cylindrically speaking.) It just that "-1" is a smidge closer to "red" than "-2."

This might be a case where "0%" would be a better target metric than "100%." OTOH, I can't say if it's an actual program value issue or a hand-eye-brain coordination issue. Unfortunately, my program "beta-testing" is going to be a bit skewed since I already "know" where the CMS controls on the target display should wind up.
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hmm...I said it was on my list. I'll take a look.
I took a look at skipping the 0% saturation patterns and it's not worth the effort, sorry.

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Will the software work with X-Rite ColorMunki Display?
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Installed i1Profiler to access the .edr files for my i1D3, but none of the files in the i1d3\\Calibrations directory are for a Plasma display...

CCFLFamily_07Feb11.edr
ProjectorFamily_07Feb11.edr
RGBLEDFamily_07Feb11.edr
WGCCFLFamily_07Feb11.edr
WLEDFamily_07Feb11.edr

Do I have any other options?


I created a spectral sample file using an i1pro on my plasma and the Dispcalgui software. I haven't tried to use it in HCFR yet but you can try it out here.

edit: To install the .ccss file use tools\\i1d3ccss and it will appear as an optional correction file in the i1d3 configuration box. I ran a gray scale using it and it improves the color temperature reading on my display but not as much as a correction matrix(attached) does. It also doesn't get the green primary location as well as the correction matrix.

There is also better agreement when you use the HCFR based method to build the ccmx which uses primaries+secondaries whereas the Dispcalgui builder only uses primaries.


\tCCT [K]\tLuminance [cd/m^2] i1pro\t6450\t53.8 i1d3(no correction)\t6890\t53 i1d3(ccss corrected)\t6650\t54.3 i1d3(ccmx corrected/HCFR)\t6530\t52.9 i1d3(ccmx corrected/DispCalgui)\t6390\t56.6
d3_i1pro_samsungD8000.mhc.zip 0.435546875k . file
I installed the latest i1profiler and there is an edr for plasma now -- would that be more correct than your ccss or would I be better off sticking with your custom matrix?
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Best to use the ccss correction.
Thanks. It doesn't matter that they are meant for a different model of TV?

I noticed that most of the first post links are broken -- I assume that has something to do with the forum revamp. Is there any admin that we can nudge to fix those for us?
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Thanks. It doesn't matter that they are meant for a different model of TV?
no, they are generic to the technology profiled.

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I noticed that most of the first post links are broken -- I assume that has something to do with the forum revamp. Is there any admin that we can nudge to fix those for us?
They are aware of the broken link problem.

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Hi,

HCFR installs and runs easily on my Macbook pro but can't see the USB ports for the meters making it quite useless.

What's the status of the "mac project" files in the source code?... Did anyone get those working somewhat?

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Edit - Well, never mind my interest in running on OSX. I bought an open box Asus laptop for $207 that should be PERFECT for HCFR.

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hmm...I don't know what you are asking. HCFR supports the following disk based gamma dependent patterns:
  • AVHSD: primaries/secondaries saturation scans
  • GCD: primaries/secondaries saturations scans and classic color checker
  • MCD: primaries/secondaries saturation scans and classic color checker
  • Ted's CMS calibration disk: primaries/secondaries saturation scans (Chromapure chapter), ColorCheck SG (CalMAN chapter)
  • ColorChecker Classic of ChromaPure session of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk.
Hello Zoyd,

Using my Calibration disk, If you navigate to the CalMAN's Session there is available a Chapter for 6-Point Near Black.

It contains the following patches:

0% Black (RGB Triplet: 16.16.16)
0.5% Gray (RGB Triplet: 17.17.17)
1% Gray (RGB Triplet: 18.18.18)
2% Gray (RGB Triplet: 20.20.20)
3% Gray (RGB Triplet: 23.23.23)
4% Gray (RGB Triplet: 25.25.25)
5% Gray (RGB Triplet: 27.27.27)

I saw that HCFR has Near Black measurements. (for 0/1/2/3/4/5 exept the 0.5%)

Can you confirm that the RGB Values of my patterns are matching the HCFR Color Engine's Calculations?

HCFR users have asked me about this and I have to confirm it before replying to them. Thanks.

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Hello Zoyd,

Using my Calibration disk, If you navigate to the CalMAN's Session there is available a Chapter for 6-Point Near Black.

It contains the following patches:

0% Black (RGB Triplet: 16.16.16)
0.5% Gray (RGB Triplet: 17.17.17)
1% Gray (RGB Triplet: 18.18.18)
2% Gray (RGB Triplet: 20.20.20)
3% Gray (RGB Triplet: 23.23.23)
4% Gray (RGB Triplet: 25.25.25)
5% Gray (RGB Triplet: 27.27.27)

I saw that HCFR has Near Black measurements. (for 0/1/2/3/4/5 exept the 0.5%)

Can you confirm that the RGB Values of my patterns are matching the HCFR Color Engine's Calculations?

HCFR users have asked me about this and I have to confirm it before replying to them. Thanks.
yes HCFR does those 1% increments:
16.16.16
18.18.18
20.20.20
23.23.23
25.25.25
27.27.27

So users will have to skip your 0.5% but the rest are fine.
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yes HCFR does those 1% increments:
16.16.16
18.18.18
20.20.20
23.23.23
25.25.25
27.27.27

So users will have to skip your 0.5% but the rest are fine.
Thanks for confirmation Zoyd, I have just posted the list of the available Chapters of my disk that are working with HFCR software here.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Free Version for Free Calibration Software: LightSpace DPS + CalMAN ColorChecker
S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, CalPC, ControlCAL
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You have to install the driver located in the drivers folder using the system device manager, no dll's required.
Could someone please go into more detail on how to do this?

Is the C3 driver located in Windows Driver folder? What is the file name?

Once I locate the file, how do I integrate it into HCFR?

(I have Calman 5 right now but I wanted to play around with HCFR and compare the two programs).

Thanks.
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All probes like the C3 which are not HID devices are serviced by the ArgyllCMS libusb0 driver. Just point your installer to the HCFR drivers folder, there is only one ArgyllCMS.inf choice in that folder. For more detailed instructions please refer to this page, paying special attention to the "Adding Argyll drivers to existing drivers" section since you have already installed the CalMAN driver for the C3.
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I'm using HCFR 3.1.3 with an i1D3 on a Win8 VM in Parallels on a Mac. I've installed the i1 Profiler app from the XRite install disc, and I can find the various .edr files in the XRite directory. However, according to other postings on this thread, I need to run i1d3ccss.exe to convert and move the .edr files so that they are accessible to HCFR? I looked in Program Files/HCFR Calibration/Tools/ folder and the only two files in there are oeminst.exe and spotread.exe. Searching my C: drive for i1d3ccss returns no results. Perhaps i1d3ccss has inadvertently been left out of this build?

Also, what directory are the converted .edr files to be placed in, so that they are accessible to the "Use existing meter correction file" dialog under Sensor Selection?

Thanks!
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All the ccss based corrections will be available as display types on the sensor properties page.
I understand that. But right now there are no ccss files because the .edr files from XRite have not been converted, which is what I really wanted to know.

Thanks!
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i1d3ccss is no longer necessary, all ccss corrections are now included in HCFR and have been for a while. It's strange that you don't see them listed. They should be under 'Display Type' in the Argyll Meter Property page. If it's grayed out, you might need to flip the built-in light diffuser.

This is a snapshot I took of an older build that I posted earlier in this thread.:

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i1d3ccss is no longer necessary, all ccss corrections are now included in HCFR and have been for a while. It's strange that you don't see them listed. They should be under 'Display Type' in the Argyll Meter Property page. If it's grayed out, you might need to flip the built-in light diffuser.

This is a snapshot I took of an older build that I posted earlier in this thread.:
I don't have the i1d3 connected at the moment so I can't check it, but IIRC the only selection that shows up under "Display Type" is Refresh or Non-refresh. Certainly no list of emissive display types (CCFL, LCD, etc) as you've indicated. I will try again to bring up that dialog both with and without the diffuser on when I get the meter connected again, but I think I've already done it both ways accidentally, without any luck.

When I look in the directory under C:/Program Files/HCFR Calibration/ , there is a folder "Etalon_HCFR" which contains a bunch of THC profiles for projectors, and in the "Profils_IR" folder there are several IHC files which also appear to relate to projectors. There are also two other folders, "Etalon_Argyll" and "Etalon_Simulation" which are both empty, plus the aforementioned "Tools" folder. I presume the emissive display-type files should appear in the "Etalon_Argyll" folder? Or would those files be in some other directory?

Thanks for your time!
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If for some reason the files did not get installed to drive:\Users\<username>\AppData\color then use oeminst from the tools directory to install into the ArgyllCMS support directory (which is drive:\Program Files\) and HCFR will pick them up from there.
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Minor update available, 3.1.4
  • Fixed issue with dE wrt ref line in near black/ near white grid
  • Added user defined primaries
  • Disabled some help and update menu items that need fixing and/or redirection
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The default preference for Gamma now is something I never heard of ... and results in a bent reference line.

Is this default like "the good one"?...

Sorry, I'm lost with things that must be common knowledge. I have an i1 specto and Display 3 and use those with HCFR ... Are there any special settings that aren't defualt that I should know about and use?..

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