Cheapest meter that will calibrate 3D. - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-04-2012, 12:25 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
As per the subject, any suggestions on a meter that will do non contact in order to calibrate 3D? Up to say $200. Support for HCFR would be good.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-04-2012, 12:33 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Wetumpka, AL
Posts: 15,499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 200
What's your display?

Samsung 64F8500, Panasonic 65VT50, Oppo 95, Tivo Roamio for OTA, Dish VIP722, Marantz AV8801 preamp, Rotel Amps, Atlantic Tech 8200 speakers, Seaton Submersive HP, Calman 5, Chromapure, Accupel DVG-5000, VideoForge HDMI II, i1Display3pro, i1pro2, eecolor colorbox.
JimP is offline  
Old 12-04-2012, 12:52 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
50" Panny GT50, so I've read it'll need to be non contact due to the active glasses?

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-04-2012, 02:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
sillysally's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,769
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 111 Post(s)
Liked: 271
Save your money, going the cheap route and probably you don't know what you are doing will not get you anyplace.

However if you are willing to pay your dues and really want to bring the best out in your display, then by all means start with a D3 and work you way up the latter, but a good calibration will not come without a lot of practice.

And yes you would tape your shutter 3D glasses to your meter use off screen, make sure they are in sync.with your VT50 and press the 3D button on your remote to get your TV into 3D mode.

Also understand that because of using the 3D shutter glasses the calibration will become more unstable and very hard to get close to what you want.

In the end a very good DYI calibrator will more than likely do a better job calibrating there TV than a Pro will do.

ss
sillysally is offline  
Old 12-04-2012, 03:12 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I've done a couple of full calibrations beforehand using my Spyder 4 Express, but realize as that's a contact only meter I can't calibrate the 3d image with it. Plus I know it's not very stable.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-04-2012, 05:23 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Wetumpka, AL
Posts: 15,499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 200
cobhc2010,

If HCFR allows for meter profiling between reference meter and field meter, you might want to try profiling your Spider 4 with 3d glasses as the reference meter to the Spider 4 without 3d glasses as your field meter.

You'd have to get the "with" glasses reading very close to the screen. This isn't unlike what many do with other software as 3d is much dimmer but you're working with brighter patterns when profiling a meter.

Keep in mind that the weakness of most meters is how well they read the lower % brightness levels. You may find that rather than reading 20% and 80% that you'll have to go higher for the low end. As a cross check, put up a stepped cross 10pt grayscale pattern as see if you can tell any color differences through the range with special attention given to the lower levels.

Samsung 64F8500, Panasonic 65VT50, Oppo 95, Tivo Roamio for OTA, Dish VIP722, Marantz AV8801 preamp, Rotel Amps, Atlantic Tech 8200 speakers, Seaton Submersive HP, Calman 5, Chromapure, Accupel DVG-5000, VideoForge HDMI II, i1Display3pro, i1pro2, eecolor colorbox.
JimP is offline  
Old 12-05-2012, 04:42 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I'm pretty set on a new meter as I seem to end up with a massive red push when the grey scale is apparently calibrated with the Spyder and it's really unstable around 40 - 60 IRE as well for some reason.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-05-2012, 04:51 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Wetumpka, AL
Posts: 15,499
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 200
I1display3 retail is your most likely candidate.

You probably already know but don't expect a $200 meter to work as well as a $1000 or $10,000 meter.

Samsung 64F8500, Panasonic 65VT50, Oppo 95, Tivo Roamio for OTA, Dish VIP722, Marantz AV8801 preamp, Rotel Amps, Atlantic Tech 8200 speakers, Seaton Submersive HP, Calman 5, Chromapure, Accupel DVG-5000, VideoForge HDMI II, i1Display3pro, i1pro2, eecolor colorbox.
JimP is offline  
Old 12-05-2012, 05:24 AM
Member
 
DrFaxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 192
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 76
Hi,

i'm also searching a meter for 3D calibration and found this thread in spectracal forum:
http://www.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=4272

seems that only i1Pro, i1Pro2 and K-10 are capable for reading through 3D glasses. At least you need one for profiling the I1display3.
DrFaxe is offline  
Old 12-05-2012, 02:53 PM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Seems that was a problem localized to Calman, which I won't initially be using. Also, is it worth getting the ColorMunki Display instead of the i1Pro if I'm not using the bundled software, as they're essentially the same meter? I'll be using HCFR for my Panny.
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 03:10 AM
Member
 
DrFaxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 192
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 76
OK, got it. Not everybody using Calman. smile.gif.
With HCFR should be no problem because they use other drivers. I would prefer the I1display3 because
the quite big FOV should be an advantage on the low light behind the glasses.
DrFaxe is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 03:56 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Yeah, I also saw a post where it looks like he got it working, but I may be wrong. I would like to use Calman maybe at some point to do an Autocal. Is that where the CM display and i1d3 differ then? The fov? I thought they were the same meter but in different colours with different software?

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 04:52 AM
Member
 
DrFaxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 192
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 76
sorry confound CM with other meter, FOV is hardware related and both are same, so no difference in that. But i1d3 is 5x faster than CM.
DrFaxe is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 06:35 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
I thought I'd read that the i1d3 speed boost was software related?

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 06:55 AM
Member
 
DrFaxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 192
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 76
DrFaxe is offline  
Old 12-06-2012, 11:00 AM - Thread Starter
Member
 
cobhc2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 58
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Ah right. Thanks for that. Think I'll go for the i1d3 then.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
cobhc2010 is offline  
 
Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off