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one thing I'd love to see on this fantastic disk is a set of custom, optimized points... but that's gonna be hard to choose as there are so many variations for the various display types and meter speeds...

maybe start with adding a general 1000+ pt validation profile, arranged dark/bright as that can be used as a general validation base by anybody, obviously one could also optimize this set specific to your display source (TV / PJ etc) and meter speed but on DCT lots of peeps have used a general 1000+ pt set....

and in addition a 101pt GS run....

what do u think, Ted ?

any space left of that disk ??? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

There no space my friend, a new Chapter with custom 1.000 Color Points needs arround 850MB space and that space is not available in the 25GB Disk.

For a large number of color points verification, any user of 1.0 / 1.1 version can run the 10-Point Cube Chapter (1.000 Color Points).

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There no space my friend, a new Chapter with custom 1.000 Color Points needs arround 850MB space and that space is not available in the 25GB Disk.

For a large number of color points verification, any user of 1.0 / 1.1 version can run the 10-Point Cube Chapter (1.000 Color Points).

yeah, the spacing and distribution of the 10^3 is not what I want and need, but that option is definitely better than nothing and better than a small, insufficient set...

okay cool, maybe if you ever do a 50GB disk version we can add some custom stuff....

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de94 difference 75luma/75 saturation gamma=2.22 and gamma=2.35
CIE94 Luminance
Red 0.7 -1.7%
Green 1.1 -1.5%
Blue 0.5 -2.1%
Yellow 1.1 -1.5%
Cyan 1.1 -1.5%
Magenta 0.8 -1.7%
White 1.2 -1.5%
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Do the test I told you at my earlier post end tell us what dE differencies you see.

I did some modeling earlier relevant to this question and generated the following plot. These are estimated color errors between displays calibrated to a power law 2.3, 2.35, and 2.4 transfer curve along with one calibrated to BT.1886, relative to a power law 2.2 target. This will give you an idea of the range of errors to expect if the calibration software does not recalculate targets based on your desired transfer curve characteristics given fixed input triplets. The BT.1886 curve depends on black level of the display and in dE terms has the best fit to G=2.2 somewhere between 0.01 and 0.05 nits. The telephone poles indicate the maximum dE found for that data point.

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de94 difference 75luma/75 saturation gamma=2.22 and gamma=2.35
CIE94 Luminance
Red 0.7 -1.7%
Green 1.1 -1.5%
Blue 0.5 -2.1%
Yellow 1.1 -1.5%
Cyan 1.1 -1.5%
Magenta 0.8 -1.7%
White 1.2 -1.5%

Hi, report this to Tom.

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I myself have made the necessary patterns me it's much easier than Tom change his whole program!
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I myself have made the necessary patterns me it's much easier than Tom change his whole program!

That's cool, did you get the RGB triplet targets from Tom?

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I myself have made the necessary patterns me it's much easier than Tom change his whole program!

That's cool, did you get the RGB triplet targets from Tom?

But what software you will use to calculate the errors? since ChromaPure is using 2.22 to report dE numbers.

It makes sense only if you created the ColorChecker Patterns only...

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I myself have done so far only:

75 luma -75,50,25 saturation gamma=2.35
100 luma- 75,50,25 saturation gamma=2.35
can still do
50 luma -75,50,25 saturation gamma=2.35


why me triplets from Tom, if I have it for the triplet at Colorchecker scheme for gamma=2.22 I just made for myself for my gamma=2.35conversion range really have some work.
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TED!
Today found a terrible thing!
pattern 75 luma 75 saturation gamma=2.22 from Tom very difference-7/23/13 and 4/14/13!!!
7/23/13
R G B R G B
165 60 60 659 239 239
77 177 77 307 708 307
58 58 125 230 230 499
179 179 89 717 717 356
95 176 176 380 705 705
156 79 156 624 316 624
180 180 180 721 721 721
4/14/13
165 60 60 660 239 239
77 177 77 308 708 308
57 57 125 230 230 499
179 179 89 717 717 357
95 176 176 380 705 705
156 79 156 625 315 625
180 180 180 721 721 721


what triplets you use?
that is true?
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TED!
Today found a terrible thing!
pattern 75 luma 75 saturation gamma=2.22 from Tom very difference-7/23/13 and 4/14/13!!!
7/23/13
R G B R G B
165 60 60 659 239 239
77 177 77 307 708 307
58 58 125 230 230 499
179 179 89 717 717 356
95 176 176 380 705 705
156 79 156 624 316 624
180 180 180 721 721 721
4/14/13
165 60 60 660 239 239
77 177 77 308 708 308
57 57 125 230 230 499
179 179 89 717 717 357
95 176 176 380 705 705
156 79 156 625 315 625
180 180 180 721 721 721


what triplets you use?
that is true?

Wow, calm down my friend, it's not the end of the world 1 digital value difference.

But I'm using 57.57.125 for Blue with 75% Saturation / 75% Amplitude.

Tom replyed for this level mismatch issue of his 2 public available excel files and he noticed that the Intensity-Saturation_Public.xlsx is correct, so 57.57.125 RGB Triplet is correct, the same values I'm using to Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk 1.0 / 1.1.

FIY my disk is using an custom XLS file that Tom provided to me with all RGB Triplets for 4-Step Saturation / Luminance/ Color Checker etc. that ChromaPure's Color Engine is based, noone has to worry about the ChromaPure's Patches accurancy.
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Your disc look to be very interesting. I went to your website and although there is a lot of information, I could not find where to order it. Is it mailed to me or do you download an ISO? Any information would be greatful.

Hi, Please look at the Store Options of the site, you will see that the current version of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk (Version 1.1) has 3 different versions to select:

Blu-Ray Disk Copy (Version 1.1) -> Shipped to your Address, worldwide.

Blu-Ray ISO Digital Download Link (Version 1.1) -> Personal Download Link via Email.

MP4/MKV Media Files Digital Download Link (Version 1.1) -> Personal Download Link via Email.

(All users are getting two Ted's CalMAN 5 Exclusive Workflows, all my disk users of any version will get free workflow updates for lifetime.)
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hcfr - Free Video Projector/Monitor Calibration Software Version 3.1.1 is available for download.

Release Notes

Added CalMAN ColorChecker SG Patterns, compatible with Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk

Added max dE to title bar text

Changed behavior of "Selected Color" display and got rid of the luminance level bar.

1.If "Detect primary colors during user measures" is checked->Bars change to LCH target levels.

2.If "Detect primary colors during user measures" is unchecked->Bars revert to previous HCFR(2.x) behavior.

3.Gray scale or white measures will always show RGB Level targets.

Thanks Zoyd for this feature release.

NOTE: Grayscale, Color Gamut, Saturation and Luminance Chapters of ChromaPure Session of the disk can be used for HCFR software calibrations also.
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quick question.

has anyone used an auto clicker software for auto control of calman (could be any software) and Teds disk?

I was thinking since the pattern length is fixed on the disk to x seconds, an auto clicker could be setup to press next reading every x seconds and that way make it as close to automatic as possible. I will test tonight and see if it works
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To automate get measurement of pattern of "Ted Lightspace CMS Calibratrion dislk"  (es. greyscale 10 or 21 pt) I have used:

1) a infrared controller usb-uirt device

2) a program to learn ir code of blue ray remote control (es. LrnHelper.exe )

3) a program to send ir code (learned from point 2): es. Uutx.exe

4) a program to send a keyboard command (es. WinSendKeys)

 

I have created a bat fille and I have tested it with Ted pattern disk,a  panasonic blueray player  and the program Calman and it works well

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@frumenzio I was hoping not to have to buy UIRT device however im sure its a very neat solution

regarding the auto clicker it works a treat.

I tried color checker SG and 10% step saturation sweeps and it synced perfectly smile.gif
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Yes, the usb uirt device and the program for ir code is not necessary for your scope;they are necessary only if you don't want to wait the next pattern is displayed and send a "next chapter" ir code to blue ray;so for only automate Calman you can use the program WinSendKeys (http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=26516.0) and send to Calman, for example, the keyboard command "Alt+Right"


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@frumenzio I was hoping not to have to buy UIRT device however im sure its a very neat solution

regarding the auto clicker it works a treat.

I tried color checker SG and 10% step saturation sweeps and it synced perfectly smile.gif

Hello, did you tried the 6 sec. per color patch Chapter of CalMAN ColorChecker SG (96 Color Points)? ...where the patches automatically displayed/changed per 6 sec. with a 2 sec. (1.5 sec. of Pattern Info announcement screen before each color patch followed by 0.5 sec. of Black Patch) between each color patch.

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I have only tried the 10+ 2+1 second option on v1.0(works really well). I will try the 6 sec option from 1.1 when I receive v1.1.
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I have only tried the 10+ 2+1 second option on v1.0(works really well). I will try the 6 sec option from 1.1 when I receive v1.1.

Cool, you will receive your Blu-Ray Disk Copy for 1.1 propably tomorrow, let us know after testing Version 1.1 if it works with 6 sec. Chapter. Thanks.

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Hi Ted, I have just purchased your disk, I'm waiting for it to be delivered.

In the meantime I need an info: with HCFR the option "use round down levels" has to be checked or unchecked?

Thanks for your help and compliments for your very good cal disk!
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In the meantime I need an info: with HCFR the option "use round down levels" has to be checked or unchecked?

unchecked
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Thanks Zoyd! wink.gif
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Hi Ted, I have just purchased your disk, I'm waiting for it to be delivered.

In the meantime I need an info: with HCFR the option "use round down levels" has to be checked or unchecked?

Thanks for your help and compliments for your very good cal disk!

Hello, since you will use the HCFR as a calibration software, you can use the Chapters of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk that are located to the ChromaPure Session of the Disk.

If you need to use the new feature that Zoyd has added to the HCFR 3.1.1 version, the CalMAN's ColorChecker SG (96 Color Patches) measurements, this chapter is locate to the CalMAN Session of the disk.

As Zoyd posted (Thanks for his input) uncheck the "use round down levels" option using my disk.

That ''normal rounding' is for GCD disk users that HCFR supports and GCD is using the RGB triplets for ChromaPure. (You can see in the GCD thread that Tom provided the Data for the GCD disk.)

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk is using the RGB Triplets for it's ChromaPure patterns that Tom has provided me (that is not public available) for all ChromaPure's Engine modules (Saturation/Luminance/Color Checker etc.)

So this makes my disk compatible with HCFR users calibrations/measurements for accurate dE reporting.

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Hi Ted, thank you for your reply.

So, in order to get correct calibrations using the last version of HCFR (3.1.1):

- uncheck "use round down levels"
- select CCSG as color checker
- use the color checker located in CalMAN session of the disk
- use ChromaPure session of the disk for CMS

Additional options to set in HCFR? smile.gif
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Hi Ted, thank you for your reply.

So, in order to get correct calibrations using the last version of HCFR (3.1.1):

- uncheck "use round down levels"
- select CCGS as color checker
- use the color checker located in CalMAN Session of the disk
- use ChromaPure session of the disk for CMS

Additional options to set in HCFR? smile.gif

Yes, as for ColorChecker, if you need to measure using ColorChecker Classic (24 Colors) use the chapter from ChromaPure session and if you need to measure ColorChecker SG select that chapter from the CalMAN session of the disk.

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One question: I double checked all the patterns on your site and I see in ChromaPure session you report "gamma 2.22" below the title of some of them. Why? What if I would like to target BT.1886?
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One question: I double checked all the patterns on your site and I see in ChromaPure session you report "gamma 2.22" below the title of some of them. Why? What if I would like to target BT.1886?

ChromaPure's Color Engine Calculations are based to 2.22 Gamma, that's why I'm using 2.22 note above to my all ChromaPure chapters i'm using to my calibration disk.

This affects only Color Gamut / Saturation / Luminance dE reporting of ChromaPure in case that you don't calibrate to Power Law Gamma 2.22, this is not interacting to your Grayscale calibration.

You can calibrate grayscale to whatever target gamma value you like, your preference don't require different patterns from these there included for grayscale calibration.

Zoyd has confirmed that HCFR is re-directing to different xyY color targets upon each user's selected Gamma Formula Type/Value, so this don't need other patterns to be created for the users that want to calibrate and have accurate dE reporting for Color Gamut / Saturation / Luminance runs using different Power Law Gamma value from 2.22.

This note I have added for 'Gamma 2.22' has the same RGB Triplet patterns that GDC disk has been created also and it has proven that work withg HCFR, so you have nothing to worrie about. smile.gif Thanks.

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