Originally Posted by Manni01
I can confirm it works fine with 6s per chapter (without black) when pressing any key as soon as the info for the white patch appears.
Thank you for the feedback Manni, I was sure about it since I have a lot of id3 users (which is slower meter than the basICColor DISCUS you used) that are using 6 sec per color patch Automated Measuring capability of CalMAN with the Batch Files.
I have a couple of requests as well:
- If it's not too much of a hassle, please could you master your disc/files at 23.976hz, like most commercial blurays (including patterns discs), or does it have to be at 24.00hz like a few European discs? I like to calibrate at 23.976hz because that's the refresh rate I'll use 99% of the time when playing HD content. It's also my default refresh rate on my HTPC (to avoid having to switch when playing HD content), so playing your files at 24.00hz forces a refresh rate change, which can take up to 8-10 secs with a JVC+Radiance in the chain. Not a biggy but it would be nice (and more standard).
Nice question, there will be an out of sync problem if I use 23.976p, It's no problem for other calibration disks that you can use manually choose patterns and they are not based to any automated profiling or measurement capability etc..., my disk is based to time accurate displaying of color patterns the exact time it's required, but this is not possible with frame rates with demicals, because the encoding software is taking commands to display frames per color and not for seconds.
For example to display one color patch for 1 second I put the command to the script to display 24 frames with frame rate of 24p, it doesn't accept numbers of frames with demicals.
It's possible to put a line in script that it says to display one color for 24 frames with 23.976p, the files will be encoded but there will be a problem with timing or syncing of any Chapter of LightSpace Automated Profiling of 1.000/1.021/4.913/4.934/9.216 color points or CalMAN Automated measurements batch file system if I do this, there will be timing errors, I have performed that tests before at summer of 2012, and I got failures at any try of syncing with LightSpace...it failed after displaying some patches.
So the disk fully encoded to 24p to prevent timing errors.
All chapters have framed checked, I have framerate database for each chapter. and checked the whole creation of each chapter with that frame check, I'm not counting seconds, it's about frames and frame rate.
I have choosen 24p frame rate and not 23.976 frames per second because it was not possible to provide any syncing, that was the most important to for me to make the disk to work with perfect syncing.
- Please could you add the primary/secondary colors patches at 100% at the end of the Colorchecker SG measurements? These are there by default in Calman's Colorchecker SG layout, and it's really useful to have them as part of the data. I know that if you want, you can check saturations etc in a separate set of measurements, but it only adds a few seconds and it means we can use the Calman layout with your automatic batch files and get the same measurements to compare with other sets we might have made with another source (PC Client, Radiance, etc).
ColorChecker SG Chapter must have only these 96 Color Patches, it's officially described at SpectraCAL's site
With the CalMAN 5.1.1 release and later users can now select between the ColorChecker Classic and the expanded ColorChecker SG.
ColorChecker SG has been extended to 96 reference points giving even more detailed view of the display.
These 96 points inclue 13 flesh tones, so you can see at a glance exactly how your display represents this critical color segments.
But you are right, If you open the CalMAN ColorChecker workflow it has as a default the ColorCheckerSG + 100% Saturations selected, but that workflow it doesn't say anywhere that this is a ColorChecker SG measurement, it says just ColorChecker.
ColorChecker SG + 100% Saturations is a mixed measurement run, I will think if there's interest to be added to a upcoming version, but these 4 extra color measurements are included by using any Saturation or Luminance Chapter that most of the users are using as basic measurement runs for a display verification. The most common Chapters that users are running are the 21-Point Grayscale and 4/5-Step Saturations, after these standard measurements 99% of the users are performing by default; they are moving to ColorChecker Classic or SG.
But no problem, I can encode a custom file for you for that at MP4/MKV format...
Other than that, great work, it's really precious to have these batch files when we need to check a calibration that cannot be checked with automated patterns, like with MadVR (until Calman and others decide to support MadTPG as a source).
Well done, and I really encourage others to give it a try. Well worth the effort!
This automated measurement system saves a lot of time and moves the calibration experience to a new level since the it will be not required from the user to perform any action (expect the initial action) using with his one hand the blu-ray remote and with the other the mouse to click single measure from software; when his meter has successfully measured each color patch to move or find the next one color patch that the calibration software requests to measure etc.