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CalMAN Color Comparator Comparisons 1.0.1 Workflow for Ted's Lightspace CMS Calibration Disk Users had been released.

I have just send to all Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk users a new version of CalMAN 5 Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow.

Changes

Fixed a scaling problem of Pre-Calibration Comparator dE numbers datagrid of Grayscale & ColorChecker SG Skintones Comparator Comparisons layout pages where the dE numbers where not displayed correctly only in case where the display performance has dE numbers above 9.99dE.

The contrast ratio data field is now wider to be able to display without problems large contrast ratio numbers.

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The Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow has created to be used mainly for field calibrators/DIYer's to showcase their pre/post calibration results to customers/people with limited calibration experience.

Pre/Post-Calibration dE numbers & CIE Charts are not 'customer friendly' and it's difficult from them to to understand what is really happening by looking at them.

Color Comparator Pre-Post Calibration Comparisons color screens it's a great tool for easier visual notice of the differences using the 8-bit RGB Triplet color differences.

Example of Use


Bellow you can find some pre-post calibration screenshots by using Color Comparator Workflow in action.

The display used for that example was a Samsung 60H7000 using the available internal display controls.



All the required patterns for pre-calibration - post evaluation and measurements came from Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk.

All the measurement patterns were generated from the disk, using CalMAN's Automated Measurement Utility 1.3. which automatically displays (per 2 seconds) and measures each color patch without user prompt. I used a Klein K-10A profiled from JETI 1211.

I used 75% Saturation with 100% Stimulus patterns for CMS calibration.

Pre-Calibration Reports shows performance of Samsung 60H7000 @ Natural mode, since it has the only mode that was used from the user of this display since now.

Post-Calibration report shows the performance of ISF-Night calibrated memory.

11-Point GrayScale (Pre-Calibration)



11-Point GrayScale (Post-Calibration)



4-Step Saturation (Pre-Calibration)



4-Step Saturation (Post-Calibration)




ColorChecker Classic (Pre-Calibration)



ColorChecker Classic (Post-Calibration)



ColorChecker SG Fleshtones (Pre-Calibration)




ColorChecker SG Fleshtones (Post-Calibration)



...and now the Color Comparator Comparisons Screens ...how dE patch color differences are visible or not using CalMAN's Comparator feature:

11-Point Grayscale Color Comparator Comparison of Pre/Post Calibration



4-Step Saturation Color Comparator Comparison of Pre/Post Calibration



ColorChecker Classic Color Comparator Comparison of Pre/Post Calibration



ColorChecker SG Fleshtones Color Comparator Comparison of Pre/Post Calibration

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Hi, with the current version of Batch Files, no, it's not compatible with this Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow.

There is a new version of Batch Files (v1.3) that adds support for this workflow measurements.

Here is a screenshot:



The new version of Batch Files v1.3, It will be emailed to all disk users at the end of this week.

Basically the Color Comparator workflow works with custom color sets that I created based to exact RGB Triplets of my disk for Saturation and Luminance, so I'm not using the Saturation or Luminance Sliders of CalMAN.

This means that every selection you may change to CalMAN settings, it will not interact to these pages because they are ColorChecker Custom Sets.

That Color Comparator Workflow has been configured to work without any required user change of any CalMAN setting.



For Saturation Runs or 4/5-Step (75%/100% Stimulus Level), there is no Black measurement to these workflow pages, so by using the Automated CalMAN Measuring Procedure (for more instructions look the Measurement Solutions webpage for picture examples) you will have to skip the Black measurement and start from 100% White.

There instructions when you will run the Batch file, here is an example for 4-Step Saturation by using Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow:

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Batch Files Version 1.3 for CalMAN 5 Automated Measurements has been released today.



Version 1.3 adds support for the required measurements using the CalMAN 5 Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow for Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration for Disk Users.

These are the new Automated Measurement options:

4-Point Saturation (for Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow)
5-Point Saturation (for Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow)
4-Point Luminance (for Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow)
5-Point Luminance (for Color Comparator Comparisons Workflow)

For ColorChecker Classic / SG / SG Fleshtones measurements, you can use the 13,14,15 selections for Color Comparator Comparisons or Verify Calibration Tools Workflow also.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk users have automatically received the email with download link and instructions before some minutes.
was the early link you gave me to v1.3 the same as the latter release?

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was the early link you gave me to v1.3 the same as the latter release?
Yes, it was the same version.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Free Version for Free Calibration Software: LightSpace DPS / CalMAN ColorChecker / HCFR
S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, CalPC, ControlCAL
Meters: JETI Specbos 1211, Klein K-10A, i1PRO2, i1PRO, SpectraCAL C6, i1D3, C5
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ConnecTEDDD >>> I just ordered a X-Rite i1 Display Pro which i want to use to calibrate my Runco LED front projector and i wonder how your blu-ray disc would work paired with the i1 Display Pro.

I am a novice and want to start slowly on how to use a colorimeter for calibration and although i have a pretty good idea of what CMS, gray-scale tracking and gamma curves are i don't want to get any video testing equipment/procedure that would be too time consuming and difficult to interpret.

If i get the disk and play it on my Oppo 103 blu-ray player to show test pattern onscreen while the i1 Display Pro is connected to my desktop via USB cable, how do i proceed from there ? Play around with the adjustment controls for CMS, gray-scale and gamma on my projector while checking the results on my computer's screen opened to the i1 Display Pro program ? If i go over or under any optimum parameter with the adjustment controls of my projector would the mistake be pointed out onscreen by the program, at which point i would then re-adjust the appropriate control until the mistake is corrected ?

You mentioned several times the importance of doing calibration based on source input; However, to calibrate any source with the blu-ray disk obviously you need it to have a blu-ray player and so if my computer does not have one the disk would be of no use in such circumstance; I imagine that in such case the user would have to pay another charge to download the same software, so why not offer both for a discount ?
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ConnecTEDDD >>> I just ordered a X-Rite i1 Display Pro which i want to use to calibrate my Runco LED front projector and i wonder how your blu-ray disc would work paired with the i1 Display Pro.
Hi Marcos, very good choice for a colorimeter.

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I am a novice and want to start slowly on how to use a colorimeter for calibration and although i have a pretty good idea of what CMS, gray-scale tracking and gamma curves are i don't want to get any video testing equipment/procedure that would be too time consuming and difficult to interpret.
You will need to spend some hours initially to find out how things work.

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If i get the disk and play it on my Oppo 103 blu-ray player to show test pattern onscreen while the i1 Display Pro is connected to my desktop via USB cable, how do i proceed from there?
You will need a calibration software other from that is coming with your i1display pro meter (i1profiler).

There 3 software solutions to use for calibration by using the available internal contols of a display. HCFR (Open Source), CalMAN, ChromaPure.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk supports all the above software solutions and features the required chapters to be able to run any supported measurement type.

There Manual, Semi-Manual or Automated (for CalMAN only) measurement ways, these measurement solution are described here.

You can download the free (open source) HCFR software and start learning how it works as a first step.

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Play around with the adjustment controls for CMS, gray-scale and gamma on my projector while checking the results on my computer's screen opened to the i1 Display Pro program ? If i go over or under any optimum parameter with the adjustment controls of my projector would the mistake be pointed out onscreen by the program, at which point i would then re-adjust the appropriate control until the mistake is corrected?
HCFR will populate the Grayscale/Gamma/Gamut Charts, dE reports for your measurements; to be able to do the required changes to your projector calibration controls to fix the inaccuracies.

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You mentioned several times the importance of doing calibration based on source input; However, to calibrate any source with the blu-ray disk obviously you need it to have a blu-ray player and so if my computer does not have one the disk would be of no use in such circumstance; I imagine that in such case the user would have to pay another charge to download the same software, so why not offer both for a discount?
There currently 3 available version formats of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk:

Blu-Ray Disk Copy: Worldwide delivery of a Blu-Ray Disk Copy (BD-25GB Single Layer Disk) using First Class Priority International Mail to any destination.

Blu-Ray ISO Digital Download Link: Personal Download Link for the Blu-Ray ISO File via e-mail. The user can burn the ISO File with a PC Blu-Ray Recorder using a Blank BD-25GB Single Layer Disk or playback the ISO File from a Stand-Alone Media Player / PC Software Player that supports Full Blu-Ray Menu.

Media Files Digital Download Link: Personal Download Link for the Media Files via e-mail. All chapters of the Blu-Ray Release are included in MP4+MKV files for a wide device playback support from Stand-Alone Media Players, PC/MAC Software Players, Satellite Tuners, Digital TV Receivers, Video Game Consoles (for movie playback from USB), Tablets/SmartPhones, TV's USB Movie Mode or Stand-Alone Media Players / PC Software Players that don't support playback of Blu-Ray ISO Files with Full-Menus.

You can use the Blu-Ray Copy for your OPPO and the Media Files or Blu-Ray ISO (in case that you will use a software player that support Full Blu-Ray Menus).

There discount anytime you want to move from one version to another, these upgrade options can be found to the Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Upgrade Order For Disk Owners Only webpage.

For example if someone has the Blu-Ray Copy and want to move to Media Files, from the drop down menu "Please select the disk version upgrade you want to purchase and select which disk version you own:" you have to select ''Upgrade to Media Files Digital Download Link 1.1 (I own Blu-Ray Disk Copy 1.x)''.

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S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, CalPC, ControlCAL
Meters: JETI Specbos 1211, Klein K-10A, i1PRO2, i1PRO, SpectraCAL C6, i1D3, C5

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Thanks ConecTEDDD for your help answering all my queries.
I will be ordering the blu-ray calibration disc very soon.
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Ted, thanks for the useful color comparator workflow, came in very handy after getting a new i1pro2.


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Ted, thanks for the useful color comparator workflow, came in very handy after getting a new i1pro2.

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Thanks. I will update the other 2 workflows (Pre-Calibration Tools / Verify Calibration Tools) probably next week.

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CalMAN 5 Pre-Calibration Tools 1.1.2 Workflow for Ted's Lightspace CMS Calibration Disk Users has just released.

I have just send to all Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk users a new version of CalMAN 5 Pre-Calibration Tools 1.1.2 Workflow.

This is a free workflow update for Blu-Ray Disk Copy, Blu-Ray ISO Digital Download or Media Files Digital Download users.

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This version adds some info's to layout pages for better display overview for more simple to use calibration time.



Added separate layout pages for Color Gamut Calibration 100% SAT / 100% STIM, 100% SAT / 75% STIM, 75% SAT / 75% STIM, so now it's quick to change and overview the differences very fast by calibrating different Saturation/Stimulus Levels. It doesn't require any change of CalMAN Settings anymore.



As you know, when you want to perform Color Gamut Calibration with 75% Saturation, you have to change the Slider manually to see each color, there 7 selectable sliders for this. I have added all Saturation Colors in one Slider and you can now select any color of interest very quick. This saves some time.



Added Color Checker Classic Layout page, that is helpful to find and select the most accurate initial display mode to start with. Here you can change that Layout Page to ColorCheck SkinTones via CalMAN's Settings for tweaking the Samsung's Skin Tone Setting.

Changes



Meter Profiling Check Layout Page: Added a datatable with xyY values for WRGB for the Reference / Profiled meter in case that the user want to copy the values and used them to 3rd party software solutions, like ChromaPure, LightSpace, Klein ChromaSurf; to measure with CalMAN and later create a meter correction table with these values using other software; to use the same table everywhere. It's helpful for those who want to create meter correction table for Klein, to quick copy-paste the values of the Reference Meter and paste them to Klein's ChromaSurf. You can copy any x,y,Y number using right mouse click & copy.



x-Point Grayscale + Gamut Layout Page: Added info for Black Level Luminance, added Grayscale's Red/Green/Blue Color Channel Balance (Average) info, added selector for quick change of Grayscale Points that the user want to measure; to quick change from 11 to 21 Point Grayscale very quick without touching the CalMAN's Settings.



x-Point Saturation Layout Page: Added selector for quick change of Saturation Points that the user want to measure; to quick change from 4 to 5 or 10 Point Saturation very quick without touching the CalMAN's Settings.



x-Point RGB Balance Layout Pages: Added button for Read Continuous and Meter Stop, for users that want to perform quick/continuous 2/3/4-Point RGB Balance for displays with DDC or while they are changing values from the OSD menu, for displays where the OSD menu appearance is not affecting calibration measurements.



11/21-Point Grayscale Layout Page: Added info for Black Level Luminance, added Grayscale's Red/Green/Blue Color Channel Balance (Average) info, added selector for quick change of Grayscale Points that the user want to measure; to quick change from 11 to 21 Point Grayscale very quick without touching the CalMAN's Settings.

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S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, CalPC, ControlCAL
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Tip For CalMAN 5 Users



For the users that are using the Ted's CalMAN 5 Workflows, as you probably have seen, there is not available at any layout page the ReadAll button, since all workflow have been configured to work with Singe Read with AutoAdvance.

For the users that can use the CalMAN Workflow Design feature, there is no need to enter to design mode to add manually a ReadAll button, they can use the CalMAN's Keyboard Shortcut for that.

Before that, the users have to enable the Keyboard Shortcuts feature from CalMAN's Application Preferences and after than they can simply press F10 key which is the keyboard shortcut key for ReadAll at any CalMAN layout page.



This is helpful for users that are using Ted's CalMAN Workflows with External Hardware Pattern Generators or with CalMAN's Internal Pattern Generator.
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Tip For CalMAN 5 Users



For the users that are using the Ted's CalMAN 5 Workflows, as you probably have seen, there is not available at any layout page the ReadAll button, since all workflow have been configured to work with Singe Read with AutoAdvance.

For the users that can use the CalMAN Workflow Design feature, there is no need to enter to design mode to add manually a ReadAll button, they can use the CalMAN's Keyboard Shortcut for that.

Before that, the users have to enable the Keyboard Shortcuts feature from CalMAN's Application Preferences and after than they can simply press F10 key which is the keyboard shortcut key for ReadAll at any CalMAN layout page.



This is helpful for users that are using Ted's CalMAN Workflows with External Hardware Pattern Generators or with CalMAN's Internal Pattern Generator.

Great tip Ted, I was wondering about that. Thanks!
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CalMAN's Grayscale vs. ColorCheckerClassic/SG Measuring Tip

I have been questioned by disk users that have calibrated their displays using 11/21-Point Grayscale Chapters of the disk why later during their verification measurement run using ColorCheckerClassic/SG chapters, they see larger dE errors at Gray measurements of ColorChecker Classic/SG while by measuring the same named patches using the x-Point Grayscale Chapter they see lower dE numbers there.

This is not a disk encoding problem, it's happening because the Gray Levels of ColorChecher are not matching the levels of Grayscale patches.

There are the exact levels:

Gray 35 of ColorCheckerClassic / SG means 62% Greyscale.
Gray 50 of ColorCheckerClassic / SG means 73% Greyscale.
Gray 65 of ColorCheckerClassic / SG means 82% Greyscale.
Gray 80 of ColorCheckerClassic / SG means 90% Greyscale.

CalMAN's ColorChecker is based to the names & colors of the Macbeth's ColorChecker which was a printed cart with 24 colors that used for years for many different proposes.

Gray/Neutral patches represent the different lighting conditions at Macbeth's ColorChecker.

SpectraCAL's Developer mapped these targets to RGB space and kept the original names except the grey patches which are named as Neutral 3.5, Neutral 5.0, Neutral 6.5, Neutral 8.0 at original ColorChecker....SpectraCAL's Developer renamed these patches are Gray 35, Gray 50 etc.

So there is nothing to worry about disk accuracy.
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Hi,ConnecTEDDD

It is possible to receive your free calibration disk,as i understand being the best tools to evaluate my new JVC X500.
It is available for download? in media files version?
My source is Dune Base 3D media player.
I also have Lumagen Mini 3D with ChromaPure Standard +Auto-Cal.

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Hi,ConnecTEDDD

It is possible to receive your free calibration disk,as i understand being the best tools to evaluate my new JVC X500.
It is available for download? in media files version?
My source is Dune Base 3D media player.
I also have Lumagen Mini 3D with ChromaPure Standard +Auto-Cal.

Thanks
Hi Maximus,

Thank you for your interest about my calibration disk. The free version contains some basic patterns for pre-calibration setup/verifying the levels, the CalMAN's ColorCheckerClassic Chapter & the

LightSpace Quick Profiling Chapters to check by taking measurements the performance of your projector/display.

For a complete calibration there is the full version where it contains all the features for more advance visually and measuring evaluation of 1D / 3D LUT performance.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Free Version is a Lite Version of the Full Disk that works with the following public available free calibration software solutions:

Light Illusion's LightSpace DPS & SpectraCAL's CalMAN ColorChecker.

The Free Version Download Link is including both format versions, Blu-Ray ISO and Media Files Version (MP4+MKV); This gives a wide device playback compatibility.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Free Version Download Instructions:

Request a Free Download Link from here.

Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Free Version for Free Calibration Software: LightSpace DPS / CalMAN ColorChecker / HCFR
S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, CalPC, ControlCAL
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Dear disk users,

There some interesting new measurement options for HCFR users that using Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk.

HCFR 3.1.7 (free open source calibration software) has been released and it's adding some extra measurement options for Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk of Free Version or Full Version users. For full HCFR release notes look here.

Using HCFR 3.1.7 (or later version) with Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Chapters that are available to the CalMAN/ChromaPure sessions of the disk, you can take measurements for the following Color Checker Patterns:

For Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk (Free Version) users:

CalMAN’s Color Checker Classic (24 Colors)

For Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk (Full Version) users:

CalMAN’s Color Checker Classic (24 Colors)
CalMAN’s Color Checker SG (96 Colors)
CalMAN’s Color Checker SG Fleshtones (19 Colors)
ChromaPure’s Color Checker (25 Colors)
ChromaPure’s Color Checker Skin Tones (19 Colors)

HCFR 3.1.7 follows the same pattern order with Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Chapters for any of the above measurement options and the HCFR’s 8-bit RGB Triplets for each pattern are matching exactly the RGB Triplets that the Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration disk has been encoded.

Below you can find the updated list of the total CalMAN and ChromaPure Chapters that any HCFR user can use to take measurements. These Disk Chapters are accurate and match the HCFR's Color Engine Calculations.



Instructions for x-Point Grayscale Chapters Measurements

Uncheck ''use round down levels" that is located to HCFR ‘’Preferences’’ -> ‘’General’’ Tab. This is affecting only Grayscale measurements.

Instructions for Color Checker Chapters Measurements



Before starting the measurements you have to select from HCFR's Preferences -> ''General'' Tab -> ''Color Checker Patterns'' drop down menu list the selection of the measurement run you want to perform.

Select ‘’GCD’’ if you want to measure using ChromaPure’s Color Checker Chapter.

Select ‘’ChromaPure skin tones’’ if you want to measure using ChromaPure’s Color Checker Skin Tones Chapter.

Select ‘’CalMAN Classic’’ if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker Classic Chapter.

Select ‘’CalMAN SG’’ if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker SG Chapter.

Select ‘’CalMAN SG skin tones’’ if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker SG Flesh Tones Chapter.

Note that there differences between the RGB Targets of CalMAN vs. ChromaPure ColorChecker & Skintones patterns.

Thanks Zoyd (current developer of HCFR) for adding these new features.

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Disk Media Change for Disk Copy of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk


Since October 2013 Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Versions 1.0/1.1 were using Blu-Ray Disk Media from JVC Taiyo Yuden (for Professional Use) WaterShield - Glossy White Inkjet Printable BD-25GB (LTH Type) Single Layer Disc. (Made In Japan).

That type of disk now has been discontinued by JVC Taiyo Yuden and there is not available any stock anymore.

From now, it will be used the JVC Taiyo Yuden (for Professional Use) - Matt White Inkjet Printable BD-25GB (LTH Type) Single Layer Disc. (Made In Japan).
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Thanks, your Pre-Cal / Verify-Cal / Color Comparator Calman workflows are really excellent work.

Its just too bad that Calman users cannot use your disk to make a 17^3 3DLUT !
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Thanks, your Pre-Cal / Verify-Cal / Color Comparator Calman workflows are really excellent work.

Its just too bad that Calman users cannot use your disk to make a 17^3 3DLUT !
Hi, I'm glad you found these CalMAN Workflows useful for your calibrations.

Unfortunately my disk can sync only with LightSpace software to provide 10/17/21-Point Cube Profilings without required any use of any external pattern generator.

Using LightSpace when you want to do a 3D LUT Profiling, it has fixed pattern order and with LightSpace's DIP Mode it can display each color patch with a selectable fixed time (1-8 sec) and it measures each color one time only, what's why it can sync with my disk. I have posted how it works here, and some of the final results measured using CalMAN here.

CalMAN doesn't have a fixed pattern order, it measures each color point up to 2-3 times to correct it, so with CalMAN's logic it's not possible from anyone to create a calibration disk that can work with autocal because that disk must have 13.651.919 chapters. CalMAN will request any of the 8bit RGB Triplet (16-255) combination during AutoCAL and it's not possible for anyone to encode a blu-ray disk with so much chapters that will require from the user to locate and display each chapter manually.

If in the future CalMAN or ChromaPure add a mode similar with LightSpace's DIP Mode, I will support it.

That's why I called the disk as Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk, because that feature where you can calibrate up to 9.213 Color Points automatically without any user prompt and without external pattern generator it's unique for HT users, while the disk is universal and it's designed to accurately work with CalMAN/ChromaPure/HCFR also.
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Ted, I see you Taiyo Yuden disc's. Leave it to you, those are great blank disc's. I have been using them for years.

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Ted, I see you Taiyo Yuden disc's. Leave it to you, those are great blank disc's. I have been using them for years.

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I agree with you, these disks have great quality. I have zero problems during burning and during the automatic verification of the disc data for errors after burning.

No playback issues from the users feedback also.

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Ted, why no gamma at 5% for Chromapure? There's 21-step grayscale.
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Ted, why no gamma at 5% for Chromapure? There's 21-step grayscale.
Hi, the 5% Gray Pattern is available inside the 21-Point Grayscale + 20-Point Gamma of ChromaPure's area of the disk.



Here is the 5% Gray Pattern Info capture of 21-Point Grayscale Chapter:



Here is the 5% Gray Pattern Info capture of 20-Point Gamma Chapter:



Gamma Chapter has 20 patches (and not 21, like Grayscale) because ChromaPure's Gamma module doesn't include the Black patch measurement as you can see below:


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Nice, I didn't see that. I'm expecting the CR-250 spectro tomorrow so I'm glad I finally have the LS Calibration disc and all the CP patterns.
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Dear Ted!
Why in "Panasonic 65VT60 Calibration Guide Using Lightspace And eeColor LUT Box"-
http://www.displaycalibrationtools.c...t-calibration/
Note: On the smaller models of the Panasonic VT60 series, such as the 50" and 55" models, it is highly recommended to use 6% APL windows. These sets suffer from color contamination that can result in "green faces", and it has been proven that smaller APL windows are a good way to profile these sets. The 65" model used in this calibration does not have these issues.

Therefore need more patterns 6% APL windows for Panasonic 50 and 55 models.
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Dear Ted!
Why in "Panasonic 65VT60 Calibration Guide Using Lightspace And eeColor LUT Box"-
http://www.displaycalibrationtools.c...t-calibration/
Note: On the smaller models of the Panasonic VT60 series, such as the 50" and 55" models, it is highly recommended to use 6% APL windows. These sets suffer from color contamination that can result in "green faces", and it has been proven that smaller APL windows are a good way to profile these sets. The 65" model used in this calibration does not have these issues.

Therefore need more patterns 6% APL windows for Panasonic 50 and 55 models.
Hi, the a lot of different approaches about what pattern sizes you can use.

Panasonic VT60 series are pre-calibrated at factory using 6.5% patterns. (you can call them from the service menu also)

It's THX certification came from 6.5% square patterns, since THX is certifying the displays using that size.

Look, each display it's different, each production date, each factory that is manufactured and any variation of VT60 for US, North US, EU, Asia, Japan market, may have differences, there is not a golder rule of what pattern size can work better from for one model from an another one. If something works for one model it will not work for other.

So each model needs different handling. Also there cases where the meters that the user was using can provide at end a greenish skintone, or a specific combination of the values of the internal calibration control the user has set.

There a lot of my disk users that are using normal window patterns and they haven't reported to me any problem, that is not visible by looking dE charts.

My disk has 11.11% but you can do a trick to make them 6.25%.

Go to your player setting at set that you have 4:3 Display (no Pan/scan)... So doing this the 11.11% Window Patterns will be transformed to 6.25%.

The resolution will be 1080p, this solution is only for measurements patterns, the area you will measure is pure color, since it's the same color of that area pixels, there is no difference if you have 1:1 or other mode (like 4:3) since it's same RGB triplet value pixels anywhere inside that pattern window. no problem with scaling that will affect your measurements. (It's not working with all players)
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Thank you very much for your detailed reply.
But there is one problem.
6% apl is not 6% windows.
For calibration panasonic plasma gamma need 6% apl, but no 11,11% windows.
Very different result.
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Thank you very much for your detailed reply.
But there is one problem.
6% apl is not 6% windows.
For calibration panasonic plasma gamma need 6% apl, but no 11,11% windows.
Very different result.
Officially the Panasonic factory + THX are using 6.5% Window patterns (square sized); not APL, and this is a fact.

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Ted, for meter profiling I'm using the 100% Amp test pattern on the disc. When is the 75% Amp recommended?
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