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Old 03-04-2016, 08:24 AM - Thread Starter
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Ok Ted, I have it working now. In the Display Characterization window I had the Time Per Frame set at 2.5 seconds. I changed that to 1.5 seconds, to match the 1.5 seconds per Patch DIP Mode.


Also changed the Max Exposure time to 400ms.
Ted's Disk users can found here the full instructions about how to find the proper DIP mode Chapter to use for their setup.

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I have TED's CMS Calibration Disk Free Version but I can't get it to work, I open one of the batch files like these on the image and this menus appears, I choose some number and nothing happens

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I have TED's CMS Calibration Disk Free Version but I can't get it to work, I open one of the batch files like these on the image and this menus appears, I choose some number and nothing happens

Hi, Free Version contains ColorChecker Classic Chapter only, so you have to select the '9' from the available options you see when you run the Batch file.

You need CalMAN 5 opened behind the Batch window and to have enabled the keyboard commands from CalMAN Setttings, and when you will see the Info Screen that the Batch file will tell you, you have to press a key for the Automated measurement procedure to start.

Here are the complete instructions, there useful examples with pictures here:

CalMAN 5 has some keyboard shortcuts for quick meter or slider actions.

For example, the F5 keyboard button takes a single measurement and with the AutoAdvance option enabled from your Source Settings in CalMAN the slider will select the next color automatically after each measurement.

We are using a Batch file that you have to run and initially select what Chapter you want to use.

For example, to select ColorChecker SG (96 Color Patches) you have to input “10” and hit the Enter Button and after you see on your display the first patch.

You have only to press a keyboard key and that Batch file will send all the required timed commands without any other user prompt.

Now you will be able to use long measurement runs like 10-Step Saturation or ColorChecker SG automatically.

Using Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk 1.1 you need only select the Chapter you want to measure using your Player Remote and when you see the first patch to your display to press a key from the batch utility.

All the required measurements will be automated.

That Batch file contains a series of DOS commands that do the required tasks for this automated procedure.

We are using the WinSendKeys utility to send the keyboard shortcut commands.

This is the list of the Batch files that are included:



NOTE: Don't rename that 6 Batch files because they will not work later. You can change the folder name or create shortcuts with custom names of you like.

Pre-Automated Procedure Testing

Before using any Automated Batch file you have to measure the Chapter in which you are interested to see which Chapter of 2/6/10 sec. patch display time works without problems with your current display/meter setup.

Try to take the measurements the semi-automated way as you were doing previously.

For example, use the 6 sec per patch chapter to see if any measurement takes more than 6 sec. time to return results.

If this is happening with your current meter settings, it will break the sync of the automated measurements.

Try to reduce the exposure setting and this will reduce the required time your meter will need to read each patch.

For SpectraCAL C6 users It’s recommended to use a fixed exposure time setting and not x Sample setting because low luminance patches will require more time and will break the sequence when you read a Black Patch or generally dark patches like 5/10% Gray or 5/10/15% Luminance etc.

In some cases the C6 will take about 15/20 sec to read black etc.



If you want to skip the black patch reading from the automated measurement procedure, we have created batch files to skip from all available chapters the Black patch measurement in case you want to manually enter your Black level luminance (cd/m2) into CalMAN’s Workflow Advanced Options or in case you take this measurement manually.

X-Rite i1Display PRO (i1d3) / SpectraCAL C6, i1PRO1/2 or Discus meters will be able to use the 6 or 10 sec. per color patch Chapter & Batch file.

Klein users will have no problem using the 2 sec. per color patch Chapter & Batch file.

CalMAN Pre-Automated Procedure Setup



Open CalMAN’s Settings Panel and check that you have enabled the Keyboard Shortcuts.



It’s optimum to set the pattern delay 0, or 0.5 sec.

It has to do with each display and needs some testing to find which delay works better in your setup.

If you will use Ted’s CalMAN’s 5 Verify Calibration Tools Workflow or any other, open the Source Settings Panel and check that the Auto Advance is checked.

Using Virtual Meter you can check if your Keyboard F5 button is taking measurements.

Simply select a color from your CalMAN slider and press F5 to see if it’s measuring and if it is going to the next color slider.

If by pressing F5 nothing happens the automated procedure will not work and you need to re-check your settings.

Start Automated Procedure Batch File

Once you have decided and tested manually which sec. per color chapter you can use with your current display/meter setup settings, locate the Batch files folder and double click to run the batch file or your selection.

When you double click the Batch file for the first time, a Security Warning will pop-up. You can un-tick the radio button if you want this warning to not be displayed in the future.



This is the Batch File Main Screen.



Here you can input your number for the chapter you want to use and press the ‘Enter’ key to continue.

The Batch file will now wait...



Navigate the disk menu or locate the media file... Using your Player Remote, select the Chapter from the CalMAN Session of the disk you want to measure...

Check that you have CalMAN Window Opened on your desktop and it’s not minimized on your taskbar.

Select from the CalMAN Slider the color patch that the Batch file is asking for before continuing.

After selecting the required Chapter from Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk -> From CalMAN Session, you will see the initial Chapter Info Screen... after that screen when you will see the first color patch info screen to your display press a key from your keyboard... and let it flow...

After the end of the measurements, the Batch file it will return to it's main menu for you to select a new measurement if you like.



If you do all the steps correctly and the automated procedure measurements hasn’t started, re-run the Batch file and by right clicking select ‘Run as administrator’ command.

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S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, ControlCAL
V/P: eeColor 3D LUT Box - P/G: DVDO AVLab TPG
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I just got a Samsung K8500 UHD player.
Hi, one Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk user with DVDO AVLab TPG tested the accuracy of the player output using the DVDO's ColorChecker function where it displays the digital level of any pixel of the signal.

Here are the results:

Color Space YCbCr 4:4:4



Color Space RGB Limited



It seems the most correct color space is YCbCr 4:4:4 mode. And picture mode at K8500 should be Standard instead of movie because movie mode alters the YCbCr or RGB values of the source signal even if YCbCr 4:4:4 is chosen.

If you want to ask him something, contact him from here: Official Samsung UBD-K8500 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-Ray Player Owner's Thread

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Ted,


I got to play with your disc and I think its incredibly easy/powerful! Great job. I'm still learning what's what in it, but I was able to do quite a few things quite easily.


My only question at this point:


When doing the chromapure 4 pt saturation, do I select that in HFCR somewhere, or are the targets the same as HFCR default 4pt saturation points?
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Ted,


I got to play with your disc and I think its incredibly easy/powerful! Great job. I'm still learning what's what in it, but I was able to do quite a few things quite easily.


My only question at this point:


When doing the chromapure 4 pt saturation, do I select that in HFCR somewhere, or are the targets the same as HFCR default 4pt saturation points?
Hi,

Thank you for your good words

For HCFR users, the ChromaPure 4-Point Saturation run don't need any change of HCFR preferences but if you want to run the CalMAN 4-Point Saturation run then you have to select it from the list available @ ''HCFR's Preferences -> ''References'' Tab -> ''Color Checker Patterns''.

HCFR 3.2.0 or later follows the same pattern order with Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk Chapters for any of the above measurement options and the HCFR’s 8-bit RGB Triplets for each pattern are matching exactly the RGB Triplets that the Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration disk has been encoded.

Below you can find the updated list of the total CalMAN and ChromaPure Chapters that any HCFR user can use to take measurements. These Disk Chapters are accurate and match the HCFR's Color Engine Calculations:



Instructions for x-Point Grayscale ChromaPure's Chapters Measurements



Uncheck ''use round down levels" that is located to HCFR ''Preferences'' -> ''General'' Tab. This is affecting only Grayscale measurements.

Instructions for Instructions for Color Checker/Saturation/Luminance/Dynamic Range/Near Black Chapters Measurements



Before starting the measurements you have to select from HCFR's Preferences -> ''References'' Tab -> ''Color Checker Patterns'' drop down menu list the selection of the measurement run you want to perform.

Select ''GCD'' if you want to measure using ChromaPure’s Color Checker Chapter.

Select ''ChromaPure skin tones'' if you want to measure using ChromaPure’s Color Checker Skin Tones Chapter.

Select ''CalMAN Classic'' if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker Classic Chapter.

Select ''CalMAN SG'' if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker SG Chapter.

Select ''CalMAN SG skin tones'' if you want to measure using CalMAN’s Color Checker SG Flesh Tones Chapter.

Select ''CM 4-Point Saturation (100AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 4-Point Saturation (100% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 4-Point Saturation (75AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 4-Point Saturation (75% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 5-Point Saturation (100AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 5-Point Saturation (100% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 5-Point Saturation (75AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 5-Point Saturation (75% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 10-Point Saturation (100AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 10-Point Saturation (100% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 10-Point Saturation (75AMP)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 10-Point Saturation (75% Stimulus Level) Chapter.

Select ''CM 6-Point Near Black'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 6-Point Near Black Chapter.

Select ''CM Dynamic Range (Clipping)'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's Dynamic Range (Clipping) Chapter.

Select ''CM 4-Point Luminance'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 4-Point Luminance Chapter.

Select ''CM 5-Point Luminance'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 5-Point Luminance Chapter.

Select ''CM 10-Point Luminance'' if you want to measure using CalMAN's 10-Point Luminance Chapter.

Note: The pattern sequence of CalMAN's 10-Point Luminance is identical to the Color Checker Selection ''RGB Luminance Axis'', so it can be selected from the drop-down menu available @ HCFR's Preferences -> ''References'' Tab.
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S/W: LightSpace CMS, SpaceMan ICC, SpaceMatch DCM, CalMAN 5, CalMAN RGB, ChromaPure, ControlCAL
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Thanks Ted!
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WOW !!!
Finally now, thanks to Ted's Disk, I can automatically calibrate any player (software or stand alone),
with this Disk (in coupled to Lightspace CMS), I can finally calibrate my favorite player software:
Arcsoft Total Media Theatre.
I sets only the white point,
a click, and everything is automatically calibrated.
When finished, it creates a 3DLUT and load in Eecolor. It's something magical assist automation between Ted Disk and Lightspace CMS.
Thank you so much Ted,
you're a genius.
You have created the best calibration Disc, existing on the planet !!!!

My Epson laser LS10000 soared !!!

Sorry for my bad English

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Thank you Ted for the continuing support since purchasing your invaluable disk, a great friend to have and resource of information for us enthusiast calibrators, thank you!!
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A quick review of Ted's calibration disk

Ted's disk is an brilliantly designed and well thought out calibration solution. The disk includes everything you need to carry calibrations from basic greyscale correction right on through to full 3D LUT tables. Everything is in a sensible, straightforward and easy to understand order and when used in conjunction with LightSpace, the disk becomes a powerful and automatic solution to building advanced 3D LUTs.

But the truth is that the disk itself pales in comparison to the font of knowledge that is Ted himself. A disc, which costs me more than a trip to my local cinema, gave me access to the man behind the disc - and as a new comer to calibration, Ted helped me every step of the way, working with me to get my home theatre calibrated to the highest possible standard. No question was too stupid for him, and believe me, I had some stupid questions. Ted always had time for me.

I couldn't rate Ted and his Calibration Disk highly enough. Buy it, you will not regret it!!! Thanks Ted.

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Hi,
I use Ted's Light Space CMS Calibration disc since December 2014 with CalMAN5 Enthusiast, HCFR and Xrite i1Pro2 and I am extremely satisfied.
Meanwhile, I have ordered Light Space HTL and am looking forward to use the disc in order.
Even if you are using a pattern generator, Ted's Light Space CMS Calibration Disk is very important in order to subsequently verify the entire signal path from the Blu-ray player to the display.
Perhaps there is one day a Ted's Light Space CMS Calibration Ultra HD Blu-ray.


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Ted's disk is an brilliantly designed and well thought out calibration solution. The disk includes everything you need to carry calibrations from basic greyscale correction right on through to full 3D LUT tables. Everything is in a sensible, straightforward and easy to understand order and when used in conjunction with LightSpace, the disk becomes a powerful and automatic solution to building advanced 3D LUTs.

But the truth is that the disk itself pales in comparison to the font of knowledge that is Ted himself. A disc, which costs me more than a trip to my local cinema, gave me access to the man behind the disc - and as a new comer to calibration, Ted helped me every step of the way, working with me to get my home theatre calibrated to the highest possible standard. No question was too stupid for him, and believe me, I had some stupid questions. Ted always had time for me.

I couldn't rate Ted and his Calibration Disk highly enough. Buy it, you will not regret it!!! Thanks Ted.
I agree fully.
Ted you are working on pattern greyscale 10pts. 20pts. for the Quikprofile in Dip mode, with the LightSpace is true?


Thanks again !
Massimo

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I agree fully.
Ted you are working on pattern greyscale 10pts. 20pts. for the Quikprofile in Dip mode, with the LightSpace is true?


Thanks again !
Massimo
Hi Massimo,

When a newer version of the disk will be released it will contain all changes that are available in current versions of LightSpace/CalMAN/ChromaPure/HCFR.

There is no timeline, when I will have it ready I will inform the disk users/threads etc.

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Hey Ted,

i just wanted to thank you for your outstanding support I will probably come to you more often as i am about to calibrate my Oled TV.. i will use your media files as well while doing that.
So there will be more questions... i am sure about that !
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Hey Ted,

i just wanted to thank you for your outstanding support I will probably come to you more often as i am about to calibrate my Oled TV.. i will use your media files as well while doing that.
So there will be more questions... i am sure about that !
Hi,

Just remember to use the patterns (Media Files or Blu-Ray Disk) from your actual movie playback device.

So if you have for example a Media Player (use the Blu-ray ISO or the Media Files), if you have blu-ray player then use the Blu-Ray ISO. If you playback movies from your Blu-Ray Media files, check if it's match the output from the HDMI also.

There sometimes where the USB Input of a Blu-Ray Player handles differently and has different output vs. it's HDMI.

There also players with 2 HDMI output which picture don't match because it's HDMI is controlled by different chipset or has different pipeline internally.

There a lot of times where users are contacting me to report no good calibration results using software pattern generators etc....

Example, think the scenario that you I send for free a Quantum Data 780C ($6.500) Reference pattern generator to use for Patch generation.

Think that you have 2 players in your video chain, one OPPO for Blu-Ray and one Dune for movie playback of media files.

It happened to measure these 2 players by connecting my DVD AVLab TPG using the colorchecker feature where it display the digital level of the specific pixel you have selected, so I connected OPPO -> eeColor (with UNITY videoscaled) -> DVDO -> Display and later Dune -> eeColor (with UNITY videoscaled) -> DVDO -> Display.

I used my disk ColorChecker Classic and Gamut patterns for testing, both player were outputting 8bit, the eeColor makes 8bit input to 10bit output (since the 3D LUT table internally is stored in 10bit). and since I knew the digital RGB triplets of my disk, I generated the following charts by measuring these 2 players. Both Players were sending RGB-Limited to eeColor, eeColor internally is working in RGB space (so there no any colorspace conversion which eeColor involved).






So as you can see even if you will use the Quantum Data as a patch generation, you will still have these errors because you are ignore to fix the player output the player is introducing.

When you are using as PC/Notebook output that you don't have tools to verify it's digital levels to see if it's bit perfect, then your final correction will have ignore to fix the player output errors + the HDMI output of PC/Notebook errors will be added to your signal also.

These all stuff, reminds me 2012, when the 3D LUT was entering to HT market and the calibration solutions are ignoring that stuff, and this forced me design and co-operate with LightIllusion to find a way of providing a 3D LUT solution that will calibrated the whole video chain of any HT system, automated with patterns generated from each source specifically.

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I wanted to tell you all about my experience with Ted. I came across this thread as I was looking for something that will guide me and help me in calibrating my LG OLED65E6 TV after purchasing i1Display Pro and the Calman Enthusiast software. Before I used Ted's disc, I used the Client 3 as test pattern generator and it was a nightmare. I spent hours on hours trying to figure out whats not working properly with the patterns as I always got different result and wasn't able to perform a steady calibration, although I followed the directions by Spectracal support.
Using Ted's disc on my new Oppo 105D was a breeze! What an amazing work he had done on that disc and using it with the workflow that he created dedicated for Calman users was even easier and was just brilliant!! Moreover, his support and motivation to help is far beyond any expectation and I want to thank you for that Ted! You helped me a lot with all the questions and problems I had with the hardware, software and the procedure! All Ted's answers were detailed, accurate all from his wide and deep experience. He answered in very short time, almost immediately, which is not obvious at all! Keep up the good work my friend!

To everyone that still debating whether to get or not to get his disc, don't think twice. For that price, its really undervalued to what you really get plus the support in every step!
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I've been interested in calibrating my projector. I started searching around for a good calibration disk, I already have a few popular ones but wanted to see what if anything was new. I came across Ted's LightSpace Calibration Disk, and so glad I did! You also instantly get sent an email with links for Workflows and other goodies. I purchased it and started using it right away.


It started out I had a few questions so I emailed Ted. Ted got back to me right away and helped me out tremendously! I'm rather new to calibration software and not familiar with what values to shoot for, or for that matter what some of the values mean. I had recently bought Calman, I sort of wish now that I would have bought Lightspace. But anyway, I started using Ted's Workflows in Calman and my projector is getting dialed in with Ted's help. I learned a tremendous amount in a few days time emailing back and forth, I had many questions. Ted's Workflows are very easy to look at and understand.


Ted's Disk, Workflows, and Support are Top Notch! Highly recommended!
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