Originally Posted by rachmat-d
Is there a guide how to use your media files with media player (bluray with media player capabilities ) and DIP in lightspace ?
Hi, for LightSpace the intergration with the Disk is Fully Automated, but it needs an initial setup to find out which is the correct chapter to user for the specific display/meter settings, look how it works:
Intergration of Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk with LightSpace Software for Automated Quick Profiling / 10-Point Cube / 17-Point Cube Profilings without user prompt, How is this possible?
LightSpace is using 2 modes to display and measure the Patches of your SelecTED Cube Size:
Closed Loop Mode:
Where the probe dictates the timings per patch, with bright patches measured much faster, darker ones need more time to be measured, So with Closed Loop Mode you can use the LightSpace Internal Pattern Generator using you Notebook HDMI Output (with proper setup) or to use Lumagen Radiance Series as External Hardware Pattern Generator.
DIP mode (Display Independent Profiling):
This mode uses a fixed time of displaying each color patch. Since the LightSpace is using the method of measuring only one time each color point, the patch sequence is fixed for each Cube Size, So My Disk is based to this fixed color point (patch) measuring order...
Example of DIP Mode:
If you select the 5 sec DIP mode, each patch is displayed for exact 5 sec before it goes to the next color. LightSpace has a fixed internal delay of 0.5 sec (500ms) which gives command to your meter to read each patch 0.5sec after it’s been displayed via Lumagen or via HDMI Out or via my Disk.
If you want to add some extra delay time before each Patch Measurement, LightSpace has add a Selectable bar you can add any additional time you want, and LightSpace adds your extra time selection to the 0.5sec fixed internal delay.
If you select Extra Delay Time of 0.5sec, then the total delay you will have in total will be 1.0 sec (1000ms) before any meter read.
Displays can benefit from adding an Extra Delay Time before each measurement; it's useful for the panel to have more stable presentation of each pattern.
How to Find Out which DIP mode can be used for your display/meter?
To find out which DIP Chapter of my disk is required for your current display settings / meter settings, you have to use the Meter Time per Patch Finder Chapter of my disk which it displays the darkest colors of the selected LUT resolution and you need to measure these patches to find out which is the correct DIP mode Chapter you will need for your display profiling.
As we know, meters require more time to measure a low luminance color (Dark Patches) and also they can read faster a brighter color patch (With more Luminance).
The time it takes for your meter to read the Darkest Color Patches of your selecTED LUT Size is something that you need to take some measurements to find out the max time in xxx ms that will be required.
LightSpace has a feature called Measure & Log.
By Selecting this, you will be prompt to enter a File Name, for Example you can type ''5% Red'' and after clicking ok, the LightSpace will take continuous readings of the pattern you are displaying, as long time as you want, to stop this , press ‘’Stop Measurement’’...
After doing that, a ‘5% Red.cvs’’ file will be created and you will be able to open it with Excel to see the xyY Readings and the time it took for your meter to read this patch.
This is an example of the CVS file Data contents:
Here you can see the exact time it took to read the 5% Red of my KURO, with my iD3 (I have selected 1.5sec Intergration time).
This is a good way to find out and set your Meter Intergration Time, by checking the repeatability of any patch, and compare 2-3 different Intergration time settings (1sec. 1.25sec, 1.50sec…etc..) to find out which setting have more stable and repeatable xyY measurements.
: Enabling Average Low Light Measurements IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE USED WITH MY DISK
! Avoid this Low Average Feature because the meter is reading more that one time the same patch (probably it will take 15-40 sec to return a single xyY number)
After you have decided about your Meter Settings, by selecting the Intergration Time and the Display Type (for colorimeters only), you have to spend a few minutes to take some measurements using my Disk’s Meter Time per Patch Finder Chapter.
By Selecting the 17-Point Cube Time per Patch Finder Chapter, you will see this introduction screen..
Here you are able to see the Pattern Order Sequence.
Before each displayed pattern there a notification screen which displays what pattern it will be displayed… so when you will see that 5% Red Info Screen, click Measure and Log... and enter ‘5% Red’ as a file name, to collect data about any measured color.
You have to do this for all the 5% RGBCMY+Gray+Black Patchs to examine later which is the longest meter read with your Current Display Settings.
It’s very important step to keep the Disk-Software Synced during the whole 17-Point Profiling Time.
After you have completed all the required measurements (you will have saved a similar list of measurement files like this one), you have to open each one *.CVS Data File to find the longest in xxx.ms time it took from you meter to read it.
For example if your Longest in time read is 4200ms, add +500ms to this (because LightSpace adds that 500ms internal delay before each reading)…your total max measuring time will be 4700ms… so you will have to use the 5sec DIP mode for your 17-Point Profiling using my Disk.
If you need to add extra additional time of about 1sec, then you can select that from the probe setup window and later select the 6sec DIP mode 17-Point Profiling.
(Because 4200ms+500ms+1000ms will need 5700ms).
Be sure you have disabled any Screen Protection, Auto Stand-by mode or your Blu-Ray Player ‘Screen Saver Mode’ during before any Profiling Run.
How the Sync of Ted’s LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk with LightSpace CMS Software Works without user prompt for 17-Point Cube Profilings (4.913 Color Points) is working?
To sync the Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk played from your Blu-Ray Player with the software it requires ONLY ONE Synced Click from your Notebook Mouse.
My Disk’s DIP Mode Chapters are Starting with a 5 Sec of Chapter Announcement like this one:
(You can check the total chapter time here or from LightSpace software before starting the profiling measurements.)
...A 5sec 'Old Film Like' Countdown with Start, like this one:
And when you see the last frame.....
You have to click 'OK' the LightSpace Start Measurements Confirmation Window
Click 'OK' to start the measurements or press ‘Enter Key’ from your keyboard (I prefer this for perfect timing)
For the LightSpace users, all chapters are automated with Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk
The video below shows the chapter that Klein K-10A users can use since it's their meter is so fast; they can use 1 sec per patch only!.
* Change the resolution to 1080p and run it at fullscreen.
With this method i1d3 users can use DIP Mode Chapter with 4 or 5 or 6 sec per Color Patch to perform a 10-Point Cube Calibration in total time between 1 hour - 1hour 40 minutes max, this is something it depends on user display and meter settings.
The LightSpace has a PercentageBar you are able to see your progress...
There is not any other user prompt till the end, After the last Color Patch is being measured, the LightSpace is saving that session of measurements automatically and the same time you will see that image at your TV screen:
Only Sequential patch sequence is supported to current version of Ted's LightSpace CMS Calibration Disk, without Drift Comp.