Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U
the whole meter position and FOV matter is overly exaggerated IMO by some on the forum (just look a Michael's article
on the matter if you don't believe me)
as far as single pass vs. multi-pass goes, if the screen is very uniform and both meters are placed near each other, the results should be very close... of course, if you do multi-pass and are very slow with switching meters (and the display is prone to fluctuating a lot even during short intervals), there will be some issues with the profile... this is why I like single pass better, since both meters read at the same time, can be placed right near each other, and you can also switch between them if needed without having to take one off and put on the other
the ST60 doesn't calibrate as well/easily as other displays, such as the VT60... and pro calibrators have noticed this too
again, what works for the VT60 may or may not for the ST60... also if the D2 was profiled correctly (and the profile is not broken currently in CalMAN for some reason)... it should be accurate on his display within its rated luminance range
also, if Chad couldn't resolve this issue 100% (and he has probably calibrated a lot of these), it wouldn't be surprising to find out the issue can't be fully fixed with calibration (since ABL will always alter any calibration and there is no one perfect pattern size/type that is better overall than all the other ones, just good choices and bad choices)
Well that my be true to a point, but we are not talking about a good calibration we are talking about getting the best your display can be.
Michael's test is flawed to a point, we are talking about Panasonic Plasma that's screen is not all that uniformed , he is talking about a LCD/LCD .
The read area on a Jeti is much smaller than on a color meter at the same distance. Now understand that the Jeti has a laser and you can pin point where the meter will read and how big the read area is. The D3/C6 has no laser so you are just guessing. Taking a read area to the extreme as the charts would suggest is something I would never suggest.
Lets take for example a color meter like the K10-A that has a laser and a light meter like the Jeti 1211 that also has a laser and using it to calibrate a ST/VT/ZT60, what you will find is that the Jeti 1211 has sync issues so profiling a K10-A to a Jeti using the K10-A's plasma table as I do maybe can help. So now adjusting the correct distance when profiling may have a impact on the outcome. And also consider the fact that you need a room with next to no ambient light, a calibration technician like Mike can't count on those conditions. Also understand I am not saying this will make a world of difference but it could help in your goal of the holy grail of calibration for your display.
Yes but again understand that the ST/VT/ZT screens are not all that uniform. Do you really think that using single pass on a non uniform screen when you are reading two different areas of the screen is a good idea. Plus the fact the a color meter probably needs less time to take a read that a light meter. I can do a multi-pass in a little over 2 min using a K10-A and a Jeti.
Yes and that has also been said about the VT60 when compared to the VT50.
I don't like to use if, come, maybe's, I want to know its the best it can be, and that includes profiling of meters.
I never said 100%, I said to a reasonable degree or the best the display can be.
I am not saying that the tips will make that issue go away, all I am saying is it may help.