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Old 08-29-2014, 07:44 AM - Thread Starter
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Calibrating 2014 Vizio M-series (M652i-B2)

I got a M652i-B2, and decided to rent a Colormunki Photo spectrometer to calibrate it. I had done a few sets in the past, but it had always been plasma, and is never done a full 11 point grey scale and CMS before.

Thanks to forum member spwill, I had a lot of help getting it mostly dialed in. I spent many hours of frustration trying to get the gamma corrected using the 11 point grey scale settings since the 2014 Vizio M's don't have a gamma control, and my gamma was measuring funky. When I would get the charts to look correct, the picture would be visibly wrong. My rental period was up, so I sent the meter back and just left the settings with a good grey scale, but gamma messed up.

After a couple weeks this started really bothering me, so I broke down and bought an i1 Display Pro to dial in the gamma. After many more hours of frustration, I finally realized I should calibrate with the Active LED Zones off, even though I was planning on watching with them on. When I did this, my gamma came out to a nice flat line across the grey scale.

Now I'm only having two issues I can't seem to resolve on my own. First, the 11 point settings on this set are really messed up. The 5% and 100% don't seem to adjust anything, 10% adjusts both 10% and 20%, and most other settings adjust 10% above what they are labeled as. The problem I have is with 10% and 20%. I can get a very low dE at 20%, but then that causes blue at 10% to be very high. If I turn down blue at 10%, it lowers it for 20% as well. The 20% settings mainly adjust 30%, so turning it up there doesn't help. The only thing I can think to do is sacrifice the dE at 10% so I can have it low at 20%. I can't seem to get both 10% and 20% below 3.

Second, the blue primary dE at 100% is around a 7. I can't get it any lower adjusting the hue, saturation, or brightness. When I ran a saturation sweep I have a dE under 3 for all other saturation levels of blue, but can't figure out what to do to lower the dE at 100%. I'm also concerned that I had to lower the hue of blue quite a bit to get a lower dE. I also had to lower the saturation of yellow a lot to get a low dE. I'm worried that I may be missing something, and making my colors worse. Is there anything I should look for other than the dE when measuring primaries and secondaries, and the dE at the saturation levels when doing a saturation sweep?
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Well, I was dialing in my gamma from 20-40% this morning. It was around 2.19, and I wanted to get it closer to 2.22. A happy coincidence I found when I raised it a bit was that I got the 10% dE right at 3, while keeping 20% below 1.

I'm thinking I've done all I can with the blue primary though. I got all the saturation levels at or below a dE of 1 except 100%, which stays between 7-8. Adjusting the hue, saturation, and brightness can bring the dE of 100% down to around 6.2, but that raises the other saturation levels above a 3. I figure it's better to keep the other saturation levels under 3 than lower 100% to a level that's still above 3. If anyone knows anything I should try, please let me know. The picture looks fantastic, I just want my blue dE below a 3!

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100% is a good spot to have an error. And better to have a blue error vs red or green. I think you're fine.
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That's what I figured, but wasn't positive if I was correct in thinking that. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

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Well, I was dialing in my gamma from 20-40% this morning. It was around 2.19, and I wanted to get it closer to 2.22. A happy coincidence I found when I raised it a bit was that I got the 10% dE right at 3, while keeping 20% below 1.

I'm thinking I've done all I can with the blue primary though. I got all the saturation levels at or below a dE of 1 except 100%, which stays between 7-8. Adjusting the hue, saturation, and brightness can bring the dE of 100% down to around 6.2, but that raises the other saturation levels above a 3. I figure it's better to keep the other saturation levels under 3 than lower 100% to a level that's still above 3. If anyone knows anything I should try, please let me know. The picture looks fantastic, I just want my blue dE below a 3!
Would you mind posting your settings?
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Would you mind posting your settings?
I posted them in the M652i-B2 owners thread here. The settings have changed slightly since that, as I suspect they are going to the entire time I own a meter, but not significantly enough to bother posting the changes.

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I posted them in the M652i-B2 owners thread here. The settings have changed slightly since that, as I suspect they are going to the entire time I own a meter, but not significantly enough to bother posting the changes.
Thanks--are you happy with the results?
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Thanks--are you happy with the results?
Yes, it looks really good.
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I posted them in the M652i-B2 owners thread here. The settings have changed slightly since that, as I suspect they are going to the entire time I own a meter, but not significantly enough to bother posting the changes.
Hi Smeg36,

Don't know if you're still monitoring this thread, but wanted to say thanks for posting up your numbers. I plugged them into my M652i. Luminance, Gamma, and RGB were nearly dead on!

Question: What display type did you use? I believe we're using the same meter (xRite i1 Display Pro). I'm using the LCD White....

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I don't remember off the top of my head, and can't check until next week. I think it was LCD white. Or just generic non-refresh. I'm not certain.
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I have used both your settings that you have posted and much appreciate your hard work. Question for you now is did you get the new firmware update that added a new gama control? Thanks.
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I have used both your settings that you have posted and much appreciate your hard work. Question for you now is did you get the new firmware update that added a new gama control? Thanks.
I did. The gamma should be set to 2.2 with my prior settings. I decided to tweak them a bit after the update since the contrast setting actually introduces clipping now, so I could set it using that method. Before you could turn it all the way to 100 without clipping, so I just set it at 65 since that was what cnet used. I turned it up to 73, which required some tweaks to get everything else accurate. The current settings in using are:

Custom

Backlight - 35 (78 for sports)
Brightness - 46
Contrast - 73
Color - 50
Tint - 0
Sharpness - 0

More Picture

Color Temperature - Normal
Black Detail - Off
Active LED Zones - On
Smooth Motion Effect - Off (high for sports)
Clear Action - Off (on for sports)
Reduce Signal Noise - Off
Reduce Block Noise - Off
Game Low Latency - Off
Film Mode - Auto
Gamma - 2.2

Color Calibration

Color Tuner

(Red, Green, Blue, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow)
Hue: 0, 0, -25, 9, 0, 0
Saturation: 0, 0, 0, 2, -4, -20
Brightness: 7, 3, 4, 2, 6, -2
Offset: 0, 0, 0
Gain: 1, 0, -1

11 Point White Balance

(Red, Green, Blue)

5%: 0, 0, 0
10%: -5, -5, -10
20%: -7, -4, -6
30%: 0, -3, -2
40%: -1, -3, -3
50%: -2, -6, -6
60%: 2, -9, -3
70%: -1, -6, 1
80%: 7 -5, 0
90%: 0, 0, 0
100%: 0, 0, 0

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I've experienced the same issue with black clipping after the firmware update. I had to bump brightness and contrast up to bring the black levels down, but now I'm having trouble getting gamma dialed in at 2.22. I'm using the 75% saturation method to calibrate and, I believe, that requires a gamma of 2.22 to get accurate x,y, Y from stereomandan's spreadsheet.

It seems like I'm running out of blue. Also seems like when I do a 2 point initial cal using gains/offsets, the point on the curve where I set offsets becomes un-tuneable on the 11 point fine tuning.

Any tips on dialing in 2.22 w/o running out of color (blue in particular)?

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I didn't have that problem, so I'm not sure what you can do to fix it. The only thing I can think is to make sure you have active led zones off when calibrating. After the firmware they are always on, even if you have them set to off, when you first power the TV on. So if you have them off when the set power on, go toggle them on and back off.
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no Gamma option here

I don't see an option to change the gamma setting. Also only see the 5% option on r b g , no other percentages. I have only had this Vizio a few days but also have an older model. This M series does not look as good as the XVT 472SV model.
any suggestions are appreciated.
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I don't see an option to change the gamma setting. Also only see the 5% option on r b g , no other percentages. I have only had this Vizio a few days but also have an older model. This M series does not look as good as the XVT 472SV model.
any suggestions are appreciated.
The gamma option was added with the 1.6 firmware. If you have your set connected to the internet it should automatically update eventually. There's no way to force the update, so you just have to wait for it to do it on it's own. When you go to the 11-point settings you have to select the 5%, then go right to move it up to 10%. You can then adjust the RGB for 10%, then go back over and select the percent again to move it up to 20%, and so on.

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Great post thanks for this
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I didn't have that problem, so I'm not sure what you can do to fix it. The only thing I can think is to make sure you have active led zones off when calibrating. After the firmware they are always on, even if you have them set to off, when you first power the TV on. So if you have them off when the set power on, go toggle them on and back off.
I'll double check the active zones setting.

When you do the 2 point call using offset & gain, what points on the grayscale are you adjusting?

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I did 70% (maybe 80%, but I think it was 70%), and 30%.
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I did 70% (maybe 80%, but I think it was 70%), and 30%.
Thanks. I've tried several locations but I don't think I did a 30/70 combo.

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I've just finished calibration with my vizio 70 E700i-B3, and can safely say I am very well aquainted with the oddities of this series (may be different from the M)

First the color space you are calibrating matters significantly. Starting with the normal color space the 11 point cal will follow suit 10-> 10, 20-> 20. If you are in the computer or cool color space it will have wonky effects where adjusting the blue on 10 effects 20 and the red seemed to effect the color space below. That said, the 5% did not seem to adjust much on normal space and the 100 did not effect much. I was able to get an almost perfectly flat gama and perfectly balanced on the 10 points. Almost perfectly balanced because the 100 has a slightly brighter and was slightly brighter but well within 2dbe.

Then I moved onto the color calibration. What a nightmare. This set has a fixed color gamut. What this meant was when I tried to adjust the RGB points they did not move. Period. I would adjust hue all the way up, and saturation, nothing. Rock solid stead unmovable. Ok.. after a day of playing with it I found someone who suggested calibrating to the different saturation levels. Bingo the saturation levels were moving (75% 50% 25% etc) but just barely, and hue just barely effected it. Well I dialed that in... and watched the tv and the greens were awful (saturation was maxed out), so I knew it still was not correct. I ran a full color check in HCFR and low and behold the points were way out (over 20dbe) when the rgb/cym saturation points were within 2dbe. So I had to recalibrate using 54 points.... Short story short, I was able to get points not on the saturation 75/50/25 within 2dbe, but the saturation points were still about 8dbe. I could not live with this and am returning the set.

Below are my final cal numbers (would post the CEI but it is on another computer). Has anyone else experienced this? Was this a bad set or is it inherint to the firmware? Have any of you run a full 54 point color check to see where your points are laying? Can someone post their full CEI diagram from their M set so I can look at it? I am considering going to a sharp.

Here are my settings:

White Balance:
5: 0,0,0
10: 2,12,17
20: 5,10,2
30: 5,6,4
40: 2,1,-3
50: 2,1,-4
60: 6,1,-5
70: -3,0,-7
80: -5,-5,-9
90: -11,-6,-11
100: 0,0,0

H: -14,11,0,0,6,-9
S: 11,0,5,5,2,0,-3
B: 3,0,1,0,3,-4
O: 5,0,0
G: -23,0,-19
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CEI and brightness because it bugged me that I didnt post it at first

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First Cut at 75% Sats cal

Here's my first cut at calibration on my M652i-B2 after the recent firmware update (1.60.x) using 75% sat method. It's not perfect, but I'm getting better saturation tracking and good dE on primaries with the exception of blue. This is the best I've been able to get blue @ 100% Color/Sat.

I ran several iterations on the 2 point cal using 30/70 -- offset/gain to get gamma set up. You can see that I barely touched any of the 11 point. I was having trouble with running out of color until I ran the 30/70 points AND ran multiple iterations tweaking both luminance and RGB at the two points. Every time 100% white luminance changes, the RGB's would change slightly. Gamma was 2.22 before calibrating the 75% sats. After that it ended up at 2.23 and I haven't run a second round on it......(yet).

The picture with these settings looks amazing, but I have to say that Smeg's settings look really good on my set. I was totally unable to use settings from someone else's set with my Sharp.






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Interesting, I'll have to try your settings and see how they measure on my set. I hadn't considered adjusting the 2 point grayscale for gamma, I only did it to balance gray. Then I did gamma with the 11-point. I'll have to give adjusting 2 point for gamma a shot and see what I can come up with.
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It looks like your set tuned right in Bassticks. Thanks for the CEI

I'm guessing the color issue I'm dealing with has something to do with the cheaper E series... Smeg your posts have been great and I just want to say it's good to see you are still actively checking them. If you are going to get your meter out would you mind taking a few extra readings for me? If you are using HCFR, measure, saturations, all colors, (will require PC connected to display images). I would greatly appreciate it for my sanity.

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I'm using Stereomandan's spreadsheet per his instructions. The Calibration Aid page is really helpful for finding the correct luminance for each point on the white balance.

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I used this as well, it was fantastic. With the exception of the 100% point which seemed to move it dialed right in. (for gama and 10 point)

The colors on the other hand... would not move very much, it seemed to effect the color "mix" more for me. So the 0->100% saturation did not move a bunch but points inbetween the colors (example orange, or flesh or foilage) were moving quite a bit...

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It looks like your set tuned right in Bassticks. Thanks for the CEI

I'm guessing the color issue I'm dealing with has something to do with the cheaper E series... Smeg your posts have been great and I just want to say it's good to see you are still actively checking them. If you are going to get your meter out would you mind taking a few extra readings for me? If you are using HCFR, measure, saturations, all colors, (will require PC connected to display images). I would greatly appreciate it for my sanity.

Thanks
I was actually going to tackle my E series today....I will let you know what I learn if/when I get to it.

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It looks like your set tuned right in Bassticks. Thanks for the CEI

I'm guessing the color issue I'm dealing with has something to do with the cheaper E series... Smeg your posts have been great and I just want to say it's good to see you are still actively checking them. If you are going to get your meter out would you mind taking a few extra readings for me? If you are using HCFR, measure, saturations, all colors, (will require PC connected to display images). I would greatly appreciate it for my sanity.

Thanks
I won't be able to for a few days, but I'll take the measures the next time I do.
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The colors on the other hand... would not move very much, it seemed to effect the color "mix" more for me. So the 0->100% saturation did not move a bunch but points inbetween the colors (example orange, or flesh or foilage) were moving quite a bit...
I ran a 75% Sats cal on my E series yesterday and was able to get a "decent" tune. I have issues with red primary and sats don't track as well as the M series, but I was able to get colors to move easily. As with my M series, I did very little work on the 11 points to get a flat gamma and RGB balance. Most of the work is done on the offsets/gains to get gamma fairly accurate to start with.

I can post up the before/after on the E series thread if you're interested in seeing them.

My dE's for 100% Color are as follows:
R 8.2
G 2.1
B 3.6
Y 2.3
C 1.8
M 0.5

dE's for 75% Sats are as follows:
R 0.7
G 0.4
B 0.3
Y 0.5
C 0.3
M 0.4

What is your source for test material with the color check patterns? I've only got the AVSHD 709 disk but I see Masciola has one for $5.

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Vizio E600i-B3.....................i1 Display Pro
Sharp LC-70C8470U............ControlCAL Elite X5 Edition v2
Onkyo TX-SR606.................AVSHD-709
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