D-Nices white targets are "close" to Judd Voss (with blue pushed by7+%, red differs though), I will post visual comparisons later.
Also - please understand that the main issue with this community has always been, that the standards dont work, and when a handfull of "god calibrators" venture out to "solve the issues for themselves" - consensus then never is reached, standards dont get improved -- but dont worry, there are always two or three people that are willing to come up with "incredibly creative" suggestions for why something doesnt work. (And it might just be that pesky, "below the visible spectrum blue", or the meters resolution...)
(On the current LG OLEDs a shared i1d3 correction file created on a Color Munki Photo and on a i1 pro, on different TVs, are so close - that all thats different between them is ONE suggested tick of the green gain slider - so no, its not meter resolution in this case - at least not very likely.)
And once one of those glorious white knight calibrators venturing out feels he/she has been insulted the thread ends and the shunning begins.
Lets get things straight for once -
I didnt even chose sides this time, I pointed out 5-7 logical inconsistancies, within this thread (who cares about the scientific process, people want recognition!), then suggested a "better" (as in more visual) way to talk about the white point target differences suggested.
I could have easily beat this thread down, mentioning that you have no locigal explanation for why LG 2016/2017 panels would be effected (not saying that they are not), they are not narrow band displays. The only thing thats supporting your claim is yourself, another user with a differen white target, and the illusive
who always talks about perceptual matching, but NEVER, EVER releases any figures, targets, results.
You have Chad B stating right out, that he doesnt believe anything like it is needed for the current batch of WOLEDs, and you have Connected chiming in with a non explanation, when someone asked, why this would be needed. (Why not watch a video instead, that will sidetrack you just enough that you forget your question...)
Still not saying that it isnt needed, just getting everyone on the same level.
And as soon as you see your "work" swimming away, you go full on personal attack mode, because - a mere disagreement about "how close to Judd Voss" the suggested targets are (they are close, not in dE, but in percatege adjustments suggested), is enough of a trigger for you to hide the other 5-7 logical inconsitancies in this thread, and disregard them - just so your "work" still looks pristine.
I can make this much shorter as well.
The idea to solve the problem by visual matching on white is highly debatable. When people (even the top calibrators in the scene) come up with whitepoint targets they are always different. The process is non standard. The entire industry is operating on "manufacturers suggetions" (Sony BVM should be calibrated with Judd Voss targets), which is a problem in itself (not scientific, not peer reviewed, not viable as a potential solution). Even people in shootouts calibrate according to suggestions, and when they do - they dont know why. Money quote from this thread "they have been told to stick to D65".
One thing thats worth to notice though is, that now people start to want to get in on "getting mind share" on this issue, because its hard not to see that something changed over the last five years. They might not even have read enough to notice that one white point target might not be the solution (I appreciate that some of you got three people in the room and asked them if they see a match), ever.
The more intelligent salespeople in this thread dont touch this issue, at all - because they know that none of them will come up with a solution.
Take a page out of Chad B's book for example, he sticks to what is broken, because he cant sell a solution where you measure your customers CMF before a calibration session. He knows, that most of what he is selling is confidence - and so the "Calman printout" game continues. Better values after, than before, always - and very visual, thanks to auto adjusting scale levels on all of the graphs.
Again - If you want to know whats wrong with this scene, you only have to read this thread.
I mean the excuses alone... the differences in white point targets are now explained by the reflective coating. Stop for a minute and think about what you are proposing.
Calibrators now need to know the reflective coatings of a TV for this to EVER become something resembling a science again?
Also - as said before, one of the problems is the ISF, who is not interested in exploring, why none of he TVs today color match at all, when using the currently active standard.
(Sony BVM was calibrated using Judd Voss, ... why? They havent even spoken out about that...)