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Non-professional callibration

Hi there,

I was quoted quiet a high price for professional callibration in Australia.
About 450-550.
This is for a 2017 OLED TV.

The cost is probably justifed with the high tech and expensive equipment used.

However, if I wanted to do a basic callibration, what would the cost be? And How would it be done?

Can I just get something like the X-rite i1Display Pro and the Calman software to do it on my own? I’m prepared to delve into learning the process and I understand this may take time.

I think it would be worth it though to always calibrate in needed in the future and other display devices.

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Am I totally barking up the wrong tree? And it’s totally worth it to have it professionally calibrated, with the risk of having it recalibrated in a few years etc.

Any help would be appreciated!

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Hi there,

I was quoted quiet a high price for professional callibration in Australia.
About 450-550.
This is for a 2017 OLED TV.

The cost is probably justifed with the high tech and expensive equipment used.

However, if I wanted to do a basic callibration, what would the cost be? And How would it be done?

Can I just get something like the X-rite i1Display Pro and the Calman software to do it on my own? I’m prepared to delve into learning the process and I understand this may take time.

I think it would be worth it though to always calibrate in needed in the future and other display devices.

Or


Am I totally barking up the wrong tree? And it’s totally worth it to have it professionally calibrated, with the risk of having it recalibrated in a few years etc.

Any help would be appreciated!

Cheers
James
Many of us here have done exactly that. As long as you're willing to put in the time and effort, it's absolutely doable.
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Can I just get something like the X-rite i1Display Pro and the Calman software to do it on my own? I’m prepared to delve into learning the process and I understand this may take time.
You can also try the i1Display Pro with HCFR.
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Many of us here have done exactly that. As long as you're willing to put in the time and effort, it's absolutely doable.
Cheers. Thanks for the feedback. Would you have a link or resources I could look at for that? Or is it the usual trawling through the forum to get info?

Also one more question, the only tool I’d need for basic callibration is the i1display pro?

Thanks again!
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You can also try the i1Display Pro with HCFR.
Thanks for that free resource!
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Cheers. Thanks for the feedback. Would you have a link or resources I could look at for that? Or is it the usual trawling through the forum to get info?

Also one more question, the only tool I’d need for basic callibration is the i1display pro?

Thanks again!
That meter, patterns (several discs available in this forum), and software would do it. I very much appreciated the guidance (incl. tutorial workflows) that Calman provides but HCFR is of course free and has lots of users here.

A good initial guide to calibration is at http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35322
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That meter, patterns (several discs available in this forum), and software would do it. I very much appreciated the guidance (incl. tutorial workflows) that Calman provides but HCFR is of course free and has lots of users here.

A good initial guide to calibration is at http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35322
Thank you greatly!!!

Will check out the link and feeling excited to embark on this new adventure

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Also make sure you read through the threads here on OLED calibration. There's one specifically for 2017 LG models. OLEDs have "gotcha" areas when calibrating them, some due to the tech itself and some due to LG's funky controls. You may as a newbie be in the deep end of the pool when working on one of these, so you owe it to yourself to browse those threads.
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Thanks for that free resource!
The first post in the HCFR thread includes a number of useful links:
HCFR - Open source projector and display calibration software
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Also make sure you read through the threads here on OLED calibration. There's one specifically for 2017 LG models. OLEDs have "gotcha" areas when calibrating them, some due to the tech itself and some due to LG's funky controls. You may as a newbie be in the deep end of the pool when working on one of these, so you owe it to yourself to browse those threads.
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The first post in the HCFR thread includes a number of useful links:
HCFR - Open source projector and display calibration software
Thanks for your help! I appreciate your honesty in describing it as the“Deep end”, and OLED challenges. Going to give it a try!

Thanks for letting me know about the first post in the HCFR thread.

I’ve got all I need now, and it’s up to me to start getting wet haha
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Additional free software is LightSpace DPS, which again can be used with the i1 Display Pro probe.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/lightspace_dps.html

And there are full user guides within the website.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/manual...ots_guide.html

There are also a large number of different guides on all aspects of calibration.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/tech_info.html

All info helps

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Additional free software is LightSpace DPS, which again can be used with the i1 Display Pro probe.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/lightspace_dps.html

And there are full user guides within the website.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/manual...ots_guide.html

There are also a large number of different guides on all aspects of calibration.
See: https://www.lightillusion.com/tech_info.html

All info helps

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Actually I think your quote is on the low side if the calibrator is doing rec 709 day and night modes, HDR 10 and DV modes.
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I fully support DIY.....


But just to throw the other side of the coin out here.



I did the audio calibration in my room, by the time you buy all the stuff to do a decent job..........spend the countless hours to learn various programs and do a bunch of trail and error placements....treatments etc etc etc.


There are a lot of do`s and don'ts you only learn from trial and error on some stuff , the pros already know that. so you end up with a calibrated thing much quicker and move on to enjoying it. It took me several months on my journey and I am still learning.


I am glad I did it, but it is not for everyone and I am sure there is still room for improvements which I might never learn or understand.


Paying someone to do it starts to seem like money well spent.....


Once I get my new room done, I will be paying some one to do the PJ calibrations.

After tackling the audio, I fully understand now what goes into it and the DIY equipment most can afford is never quite up to pro standards.


DIY is no quick fix.......

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