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DEAD New thread for Version 2.0+, here.


ColorHCFR is a calibration software originally created to be used with the specially designed HCFR probe, by the homecinema-fr Colorimètre team. This is a very pro software and totally free.

In order to properly calibrate your TV/Projector you'll need a Colorimeter, a Calibration Software and a Pattern Generator.


Colorimeter

Currently supported:

- HCFR probe (Do-it-yourself). >>
- Colorvision Spyder2.
- XRite DTP-94 (AKA Monaco Optix).
- GMB/Xrite/Pantone Eye-One Display2/LT.
- Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Pro.

More information in the following post.
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Calibration Software

- Download ColorHCFR calibration software.
(8MB - Ver. 2.0) more info.


This software is distributed under the GNU GPL license.
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Pattern Generator

- Download the HCFR DVD with patterns.
(60.9MB - PAL multiregion)

Note: Get Avia, Getgray or DVE in case your
player isn't compatible with PAL DVDs.


Or AVS HD 709 (DVD-5) in order to calibrate with HD DVD color space.

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Visit www.homecinema-fr.com/colorimetre/index_en.php, for more information.
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HCFR Probe:
Pros: it's the official and original ColorHCFR colorimeter and totally supported. Really quick readings -maybe the fastest- even in difficult conditions such as low luminance patterns (IRE 10, 20, 30).
Cons: it uses a calibration file to properly calibrate. So it may be incompatible with your display/proj. for a while until the file is available.
Price: possibly inexpensive if done correctly (by a professional in a group buy), or expensive if you DIY -and have no tools or knowledge to begin with-. So it depends on the conditions, from $50 to infinite...

More info.

Colorvision Spyder2:
Pros: the cheapest colorimeter. It may be labeled as "entry level" but it's an accurate probe just perfect for the calibrator on a budget. Totally supported.
Cons: the slowest, especially in dark patterns. Also inconsistent at those low IRE levels.
Price: the colorimeter (hardware) is part of several Colorvision packages. So it starts at $79 msrp in Spyder2 Express.

Xrite DTP-94 (AKA Monaco Optix):
Pros: quite fast, it is a very accurate colorimeter. It even has recalibration (internal offset calculation based on the temperature). The most recommended by the ColorHCFR team. Totally supported.
Cons: more expensive than Spyder2 and discontinued, still one of the best.
Price: from $219 msrp in Monaco Optix Xr.

Gretag Macbeth/Xrite/Pantone Eye-One Display2/LT:
Pros: since Xrite and Gretag Macbeth merged this is supposed to be the replacement for the DTP94. Probably as good as the Xrite. Now fully supported.
Cons: also more expensive than Spyder2.
Price: included in several packages. From $170 msrp in Pantone Eye-One Display LT.

Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Pro:
Pros: really accurate, unlike the others (which are filter-based) this is not a colorimeter but a spectrophotometer. As it's name implies this is a more professional tool (needs to be recalibrated regularly). Totally supported.
Cons: really expensive, not necessary better than a good filter-based colorimeter in real world calibrations.
Price: did I say expensive? From $1095 msrp in Eye-One Beamer.
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When using S2Fly, does the program take into account the blue filter on the Spyder2 when LCD/Projector is selected. Or should the filter be removed for all readings?
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Here is some info about S2Fly:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7763001


But it doesn't especify that.
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I went ahead and translated the entire application to English. It took about 6-7 hours, but was worth it. This application is actually very similar to ColorFacts. I encourage everyone to try it out, especially now that it is in a language we can all understand

Install the application in French, than overwrite the .exe file in the program directory with the one attached in the .zip file.

Hope this helps everyone out!

*EDIT* Apparently, I can't attach the file because it is too big! Anyone have any suggestions?
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Anyone have any suggestions?

Sent PM.
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Okay everybody, here it is!

http://rapidshare.de/files/37226988/ColorHCFR.zip.html

Install the application in French, than overwrite the .exe in the program directory with the one in the .zip file.

ENJOY!

TRANSLATED: Menus, Toolbars, Dialog Boxes, Tooltips, Status, Preferences, Application Information, etc.

P.S. If anyone has any translation suggesstions, like maybe things I translated wrong, or things that should be named differently, let me know and I will change them promptly.

P.S.S. There were certain things, such as, text inside drop-down boxes that I coud not find an edit for. So, I could not translate these, if anyone has any suggesstions on how to translate these parts, let me know.
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Good find and thanks for the work onthe translation! Thanks.

Phil
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Has anyone compared this software's results to any of the other software suites using the spyder2 colorimeter?
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Okay everybody, here it is!

http://rapidshare.de/files/37226988/ColorHCFR.zip.html

Downloads fail.
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It should work properly, if not delete cookies and try again. Remember to click on "Free".
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It should work properly, if not delete cookies and try again. Remember to click on "Free".

Nope. Dumped the cookies and hit "Free" (as before) but still get "The page cannot be displayed" message.
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I don't know, it is still working here. Anyway, download both .txt > rename to .rar > unrar.

 

ColorHCFR.part1.txt 500k . file

 

ColorHCFR.part2.txt 158.578125k . file
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Okay everybody, here it is!

Install the application in French, than overwrite the .exe in the program directory with the one in the .zip file.

ENJOY!

TRANSLATED: Menus, Toolbars, Dialog Boxes, Tooltips, Status, Preferences, Application Information, etc.

P.S. If anyone has any translation suggesstions, like maybe things I translated wrong, or things that should be named differently, let me know and I will change them promptly.

P.S.S. There were certain things, such as, text inside drop-down boxes that I coud not find an edit for. So, I could not translate these, if anyone has any suggesstions on how to translate these parts, let me know.

DeCSS - great job!
What about translating the windows help file ;-)
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Have anyone burned the DVD? I cannot get it to burn to DVDRW with Nero Express 6!
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Have anyone burned the DVD? I cannot get it to burn to DVDRW with Nero Express 6!

Seems to be an Archive not an ISO Image. I've opened it with winrar and got a dvd file structure. so maybe you should unrar it and put the files on your dvd.
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Yep, it worked that way. Thanks.

If anyone is interested in authoring a HDDVD (with Movie Factory 5, for example) click here to download the patterns in 1920x1080.

More info in french forum.
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Has anyone compared this software's results to any of the other software suites using the spyder2 colorimeter?

Yes. I compared my results to CalMan and Rader's spreadsheet, they are identical. However, each package has it's benefits. CalMan requires Excel, but takes measurements directly from the meter. Rader's sheet is not as accurate, but is free. This software requires no 3rd party applications, it's free, but I have not figured out a way to take measurements directly from the meter. I know their is a way, but I haven't figured it out yet.

Also, I hope someone can give me some recomendations for translations. I have a feeling some of the translations could have been better.
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Yes. I compared my results to CalMan and Rader's spreadsheet, they are identical.

curious
i've input my rader readings from a previous calibration
and i get a mojor difference in gamma
in rader's sheet it's 2.48
with HCFR it's around 1.9
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UPDATE 1
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*Updated with minor interface fixes (i.e. menu spacing, grammar correction, etc.)
*Updated with new translated items (i.e. most of the drop-down menus)

http://rapidshare.de/files/37277309/ColorHCFR.zip.html

Just overwrite your existing .exe file with this newer one.
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There is still a lot to be done, but it's getting better. I need suggesstions on translations though. Keep in mind, I don't know French, this was all done with BabelFish and my own knowledge of display calibration.

ENJOY!
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Thanks.... and keep up the good work!!
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Thanks for all of your works. Finally I can make some pro-looking graphs.Just like the attached file. Not perfect, but pretty close .
LL
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Hi DeCSS

I'm one of the authors of Colorimètre HCFR. You made a great job translating resources directly in the executable Anyway, most of the interesting texts are directly inside source code, you can't translate them...

BTW, the best interest of this application is when used with the HCFR colorimeter, which is a DIY electronic device. It's cheap (maybe 20 to 30$) and easy to build if you can solder components, make a printed circuit, and program a PIC. In France, HCFR team organised fabrication and distribution for a few hundred of people who couldn't make it by themselves...

Typing values directly in fields can make it work to have good graphs, but it's far from using the application with the colorimeter Anyway, we are looking to other devices, and maybe one day you could use it with easy to buy devices.

About translation: you are wondering about some types of measures: "voisinage du noir" means "near black". It's for measures of IRE 0, 1, 2, 3, 4. It's intended to check luma curbe near black. "voisinage du blanc" is "near white". The same, with IRE 96, 97, 98, 99, 100. "saturation" measures are experimental, they are measures of colors with different saturation levels (from white to pure color) to check color quality... I think it would be difficult to use it with an external device, using copy paste operations

Georges G
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Hey Georges, it would be great if you can make it work with the Spyder Colorimeter.

Great work.
Carmine.
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Hi Carmine

It would be nice if I knew how to communicate with a Spyder... I don't know anything of the protocol

And frankly speaking, when we wrote this software, if we knew how to communicate with any suitable cheap device, we wouldn't have created our own colorimeter

Georges
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Hi Carmine

It would be nice if I knew how to communicate with a Spyder... I don't know anything of the protocol

And frankly speaking, when we wrote this software, if we knew how to communicate with any suitable cheap device, we wouldn't have created our own colorimeter

Georges

Check the link in post #5 it provides some detail and a contact on the sypder2 interface software, it may provide some insight... or not
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Hi Carmine

It would be nice if I knew how to communicate with a Spyder... I don't know anything of the protocol

And frankly speaking, when we wrote this software, if we knew how to communicate with any suitable cheap device, we wouldn't have created our own colorimeter

Georges

uhm.. I do
Contact me and I'll provide you with the API details.

// Lyckman (Creator of S2Fly)
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When using S2Fly, does the program take into account the blue filter on the Spyder2 when LCD/Projector is selected. Or should the filter be removed for all readings?

According to colorvision the filter should always be on regardless of the displaytype. And I might mention that I never undeersttood the "CRT"-mode. The values is on par with the ones reported from Spyder2 Pro colorimeter, but the values themselves are very strange..

I always use filter (baffle) on, LCD/Proj mode.

// Lyckman
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uhm.. I do
Contact me and I'll provide you with the API details.

// Lyckman (Creator of S2Fly)



Yeah that guy in Post #5

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