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I've downloaded and burned this to DVD (I don't have a drive that will burn to BluRay DVD). I've also tried putting the various videos into a special folder in my Plex setup and playing them from there using the Plex app on my two Android TV's (both 4K Sony's, one is 2016 model one is 2017 model).

I can't get any of the various videos to blink the way that they're supposed to. I've tried running brightness and contrast both all the way up and all the way down, and I never get the patterns to flash as I'm supposed to. I have the light sensor turned off along with all of the other "automatic" picture settings. What am I missing?

When using the DVD that I burned, I'm playing it back in a Sony UBP-X800 with output resolution set to "Native" (I see 720p on the TV which is what I would expect since the TV is set to do the upscaling).
Did you burn the AVCHD version? That should work.

Note that there's no such thing as a "BluRay DVD". It's either DVD or Blu-ray.

Adjusting settings according to personal preference is not calibration.

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Did you burn the AVCHD version? That should work.

Note that there's no such thing as a "BluRay DVD". It's either DVD or Blu-ray.
Yes, I used the AVCHD version of the content. In fact, I downloaded AVCHD-2d.7z. I decompressed to get the ISO image and burned to DVD.

My TV's are Sony XBR75X940D and XBR49X900E. My experience with them is that I get the same exact results (or lack thereof) when trying to adjust brightness or contrast - I can not get anywhere near to the sections that are supposed to be configured, and I don't even get an even level of control at all. I will see flashing along the upper and lower edges further to the left than what I see in the middle of the panel.

I'm using the Custom picture settings, but I've also tried it with CinemaPro, CinemaHome, and a couple of other general presets as well. Results are always just about the same.

I'm aware of my mistake. I meant to write BluRay Disc but wrote DVD instead (too many things going on at once).
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Yes, I used the AVCHD version of the content. In fact, I downloaded AVCHD-2d.7z. I decompressed to get the ISO image and burned to DVD.

My TV's are Sony XBR75X940D and XBR49X900E. My experience with them is that I get the same exact results (or lack thereof) when trying to adjust brightness or contrast - I can not get anywhere near to the sections that are supposed to be configured, and I don't even get an even level of control at all. I will see flashing along the upper and lower edges further to the left than what I see in the middle of the panel.

I'm using the Custom picture settings, but I've also tried it with CinemaPro, CinemaHome, and a couple of other general presets as well. Results are always just about the same.

I'm aware of my mistake. I meant to write BluRay Disc but wrote DVD instead (too many things going on at once).
Hi, what's your source you playback the AVSHD and what's the video output settings?

With Sony, they have different names to controls that can confuse.

For example the controls Brightness of Sony controls the power of the back-light, the luminance output, It's the back-light control. This need meter to adjust it, since movies mastered to specific luminance levels, if you don't have meter then use a settings comfortable for your eyes which will not tire your eyes after hours of watching.

The control of Sony named as Black Level, controls near black levels, so you will use the Brightness pattern to adjust it.

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Hi, what's your source you playback the AVSHD and what's the video output settings?

With Sony, they have different names to controls that can confuse.

For example the controls Brightness of Sony controls the power of the back-light, the luminance output, It's the back-light control. This need meter to adjust it, since movies mastered to specific luminance levels, if you don't have meter then use a settings comfortable for your eyes which will not tire your eyes after hours of watching.

The control of Sony named as Black Level, controls near black levels, so you will use the Brightness pattern to adjust it.

See some videos here: http://www.tlvexp.ca/tutorials/
Are you asking for information in addition to what I've already posted?
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Are you asking for information in addition to what I've already posted?
There were at previous page, ok, from your Sony player, the patterns supposed to be 1080p24 to your Sony TV info.

The Plex may expanding the levels from Video to Data so it will not be possible to see any bars flashing below 16 and higher from 235.

Download the MP4 files and load the from the Sony TV USB to use what bars you see flashing there.

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There were at previous page, ok, from your Sony player, the patterns supposed to be 1080p24 to your Sony TV info.

The Plex may expanding the levels from Video to Data so it will not be possible to see any bars flashing below 16 and higher from 235.

Download the MP4 files and load the from the Sony TV USB to use what bars you see flashing there.
I tried playing them using USB as well... No difference.

That was actually what I had tried originally, and gave up pretty much right away. Some months passed and I decided to try again using the ISO image burned to CD and it's no different. The Plex app was sort of a "I wonder if this would be different" test, and it wasn't.

I have a feeling that I'm missing something really simple because I generally can figure this stuff out pretty easily (have worked with technology forever, and work in a high-tech field... Have a pretty high-tech computer network at my house, too... this is beyond me for some reason).
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I tried playing them using USB as well... No difference.

That was actually what I had tried originally, and gave up pretty much right away. Some months passed and I decided to try again using the ISO image burned to CD and it's no different. The Plex app was sort of a "I wonder if this would be different" test, and it wasn't.

I have a feeling that I'm missing something really simple because I generally can figure this stuff out pretty easily (have worked with technology forever, and work in a high-tech field... Have a pretty high-tech computer network at my house, too... this is beyond me for some reason).
To isolate the issue, for testing use the Sony Player and set it's output to native resolution with YCbCr output.

Be sure you are currently at Movie mode and what the current HDMI input you use from the TV don't have any PC icon as active or named (not sure if Sony has these labels, like LG or Samsung..where it's enabling their PC mode)

Disable @ movie mode all enhancements and display the contrast and brightness patterns, post here what numbers of bars you see flashing without any adjustment from you side and what is happening when you do adjustment. Post all results here.

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My TV's are Sony XBR75X940D and XBR49X900E. My experience with them is that I get the same exact results (or lack thereof) when trying to adjust brightness or contrast - I can not get anywhere near to the sections that are supposed to be configured, and I don't even get an even level of control at all. I will see flashing along the upper and lower edges further to the left than what I see in the middle of the panel.
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To isolate the issue, for testing use the Sony Player and set it's output to native resolution with YCbCr output.

Be sure you are currently at Movie mode and what the current HDMI input you use from the TV don't have any PC icon as active or named (not sure if Sony has these labels, like LG or Samsung..where it's enabling their PC mode)

Disable @ movie mode all enhancements and display the contrast and brightness patterns, post here what numbers of bars you see flashing without any adjustment from you side and what is happening when you do adjustment. Post all results here.
What does this mean?

HDMI input is HDMI3. The player is a Sony UBP-X800 and supports HDR. The TV input is set to Enhanced Mode which allows HDR. The player is configured to output Native Resolution and I do see 720p as the resolution when I look in the information pane.

What is it that I am disabling? I am using Custom picture settings for everything but find that the settings do the same thing even if using Cinema Home, Cinema Pro, Standard, or pretty much anything else.
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What does this mean?

HDMI input is HDMI3. The player is a Sony UBP-X800 and supports HDR. The TV input is set to Enhanced Mode which allows HDR. The player is configured to output Native Resolution and I do see 720p as the resolution when I look in the information pane.

What is it that I am disabling? I am using Custom picture settings for everything but find that the settings do the same thing even if using Cinema Home, Cinema Pro, Standard, or pretty much anything else.
AVSHD is SDR, does it say SDR when you playback it from the Sony? Also how you burned the AVSHD, it's AVCHD format so it has to display to you 1080p24 patterns (encoded at that resolution) and not 720p you see.

Enhancements are: Reality Creation, Noise Reduction, MPEG Noise Reduction, Dot Noise Reduction, Noise Filtering, Detail Enhancer, Edge Enhancer, Super Resolution, Digital Clear View, Live Color, Dynamic Color or Color Enhancer etc.

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AVSHD is SDR, does it say SDR when you playback it from the Sony? Also how you burned the AVSHD, it's AVCHD format so it has to display to you 1080p24 patterns (encoded at that resolution) and not 720p you see.

Enhancements are: Reality Creation, Noise Reduction, MPEG Noise Reduction, Dot Noise Reduction, Noise Filtering, Detail Enhancer, Edge Enhancer, Super Resolution, Digital Clear View, Live Color, Dynamic Color or Color Enhancer etc.
With the Sony sets, it will say HDR if it's HDR. Otherwise, it shows nothing and that means SDR.

The information at the beginning of this thread says you can burn the image to a standard DVD. So, it's only ever going to show 720p since I don't have a way to burn it to BluRay. So, how do I get 1080 content from 720 media?

As far as the enhancements, I have all of that junk turned off.
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With the Sony sets, it will say HDR if it's HDR. Otherwise, it shows nothing and that means SDR.

The information at the beginning of this thread says you can burn the image to a standard DVD. So, it's only ever going to show 720p since I don't have a way to burn it to BluRay. So, how do I get 1080 content from 720 media?

As far as the enhancements, I have all of that junk turned off.
There enhancements which converting SDR to HDR, this is why I asked.

You can use an empty DVD, but it will not DVD format, you are using DVD media only....

AVCHD format uses a disc structure designed for Blu-ray (with some limitations to navigation and bitrate...11Mbit max), you will get 1080p24 (23.976) when you will playback that dvd disc.

Install ImgBurn and burn it from there.

So your Sony will read it as BD but using it's Red laser and not the Blue.

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There enhancements which converting SDR to HDR, this is why I asked.

You can use an empty DVD, but it will not DVD format, you are using DVD media only....

AVCHD format uses a disc structure designed for Blu-ray (with some limitations to navigation and bitrate...11Mbit max), you will get 1080p24 (23.976) when you will playback that dvd disc.

Install ImgBurn and burn it from there.

So your Sony will read it as BD but using it's Red laser and not the Blue.
Not an option.

I can either burn it using my Mac or a Linux machine. Windows isn't available for disc burning. Other methods?
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Not an option.

I can either burn it using my Mac or a Linux machine. Windows isn't available for disc burning. Other methods?
I have idea for Mac/Linux, you need a burning software which will not convert that ISO to DVD, you need to burn it as it, AVCHD format.

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Not an option.

I can either burn it using my Mac or a Linux machine. Windows isn't available for disc burning. Other methods?
You need to set UDF file system, UDF revision 2.50, put the CERTIFICATE and BDMV folders in the root, and then burn the disc.

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You need to set UDF file system, UDF revision 2.50, put the CERTIFICATE and BDMV folders in the root, and then burn the disc.
There HAS to be another way to get this content to play on my TV without jumping through all of those hoops.
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There HAS to be another way to get this content to play on my TV without jumping through all of those hoops.
If you manage to get 1080p24 (at your TV) by playing the AVSHD while your player outputs YCbCr colorspace at native resolution, then you will be able to see the patterns with the correct way, as encoded.

I think I have send you all the required info.

It's up to you what to do.

There no official AVSHD support since project has been discontinued.

Find a PC, install ImgBurn, right click the ISO file and burn it, it will apply all the correct settings.

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