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Where have you heard this?
I have a 436XDE Pioneer plasma.

Several calibrators on this forum have stated this. If your gamma, greyscale and color temperature are accurately calibrated, then the blue filters will be fairly accurate. I had my 5020 calibrated in movie mode, and the blue filters show I don't need to adjust the color. Now if I use the blue filters on any of the other modes not calibrated (standard, game, etc) I can set the color to what the blue filters suggest, but the color will be significantly oversaturated. Everything will be too red.

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HDMV version onto a DVD using ImgBurn.

I took a look at the site and there's no mention of AVCHD, so I suppose the patching could be cause of the stopped playback with the Patched version. Actually the other Magnavox (Funai) was also reported as playing HDMV on DVD, but to try to keep things as simple as possible that hasn't been explained on the main page. Anyway, thanks for the feedback.
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Is it alright to use a DVD+RW disc?

If the player will play rewritable media, then yes it's fine. For example, BD-RE (rewritable) would generally be recommended for Blu-ray media.
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Make sure the PS3 is set to sup
Y Cb Cr
RGB limited
Super white on
Upconverion normal
all noise reduction on "0"

Where do I go in the PS3 to set it to these settings?

And do I change them back once I'm done calibrating?

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AVCHD doesnt work on the ps3 for me, how odd
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AVCHD doesnt work on the ps3 for me, how odd

Look at your setting in the player menu. My Samsung wouldn't work with it til I disabled 24P playback. It would display the menu but only a blank screen for everything else. Probably a setting in there somewhere.

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AVCHD doesnt work on the ps3 for me, how odd

You must use AVCHDme.exe to rename some files : the AVCHD support of the PS3 doesn't accept files extensions bigger than 3 characters

It works fine for me
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Hi to all of you here!
Many thanks in advance for this work!!!
I am trying to figure out how i can use this thread in order to recalibrate my failured calibrated Samsung 46B750 TV...
To tell you the truth, it is so hard for me to read over 2000 posts, only for understanding this procedure of calibrating my TV...
That's why i ask for your help...
I have posted my problem in this http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...2&postcount=92 post, but i never figured out a reliable solution...
So, my calibration problem still exists!
I want to ask you which pattern of the above that are mentioned in this thread i can use in order to calibrate my AV input...
Because i live in Europe, i want to inform you that our system is PAL, not a NTSC....
I am waiting for your reply!!!

P.S. Many thanks to George from Naypaktos!!!!
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Look at your setting in the player menu. My Samsung wouldn't work with it til I disabled 24P playback. It would display the menu but only a blank screen for everything else. Probably a setting in there somewhere.

Thanks, but the PS3 wasnt even reading the disc, but I erased the disc and used the PATCHED one and that worked.
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Thanks for the free test patters AVS. Though with the test patterns, the brightness seems different in a few of the tests, is one patter better than the other? also the sharpness pattern is really tricky. Im obviously a novice
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My player is OPPO BDP-83. It supports HDMV, PATCHED, AVCHD. Which version is better to use? Is there a difference?
Thank you!
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With the AVS709 brightness and contrast patterns, do you make your settings while right up to the screen or in your normal seating position? For example, the bars on brightness test require a higher setting to see them from your seating position. Thanks.
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With the AVS709 brightness and contrast patterns, do you make your settings while right up to the screen or in your normal seating position? For example, the bars on brightness test require a higher setting to see them from your seating position. Thanks.

For the first pattern at the screen is fine. For the second pattern you should probably be able to see somewhere in the range of 19-21 begin flashing from your seating position. On my display if I set the first pattern at the screen I can also see somewhere around 19 and up flash on the second pattern. If that isn't the case, you might want to choose the higher setting between using the first or second pattern.
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My player is OPPO BDP-83. It supports HDMV, PATCHED, AVCHD. Which version is better to use? Is there a difference?
Thank you!

There's not much difference aside from the authoring. The HDMV would be the recommended choice if you can use any version, but generally similar video playback is expected with standalone players regardless of the version.
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the brightness seems different in a few of the tests, is one patter better than the other? also the sharpness pattern is really tricky. Im obviously a novice

Getting the APL pattern to flash somewhere in the range of 19-21 and up is probably going to be somewhat similar to the sort of brightness setting you would get with a commercial disc such as Digital Video Essentials. Displays can vary with APL, so the first brightness pattern will not work on all displays. If the first and second basic settings patterns differ significantly, then probably go with the higher brightness setting.

The sharpness pattern is meant to have one solid shade next to another solid shade. The transition between the shades of gray should be as clean as possible, with one shade of gray right next to another shade of gray. On some displays if you turn sharpness all the way up you will cause what could be described as ghosts, echos, or ringing at the edges between the shades of gray. So if sharpness is too high you might get lighter outlines near the edges, instead of one solid color next to another solid color. The main point of the sharpness pattern is just to try to eliminate the negative effects (mainly lighter edges) of having sharpness set too high.
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Is anyone having trouble downloading the MP4 version? My download gets to 99 % every time and fails. Ive tried both EXE and 7z, also Firefox and IE both, same problems. I'd like to use my PS3 to play this, and since I don't have a BD burner i'm sorta stuck. Thanks.

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Thanks for the advice, ill give it a shot.
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Is anyone having trouble downloading the MP4 version? My download gets to 99 % every time and fails. Ive tried both EXE and 7z, also Firefox and IE both, same problems. I'd like to use my PS3 to play this, and since I don't have a BD burner i'm sorta stuck. Thanks.

The AVCHD or Patched versions are intended for DVD burners and should work with the PS3. http://www.steekr.com/n/50-17/share/...4b550dcc18ceb/ is an alternate download site. For some reason the steekr link currently seems to be locking up Chrome, but it still worked in IE when I tried it.
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Quick Question:
Using a Mitsubishi HC3800 DLP projector and my HTPC with a ATI 5850 HD video card, what mode pixel format should I select in the ATI Catalyst CCC menu for testing while using an HDMI connection and ArcSoft's TotalMedia Theater Platinum software?
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Quick Question:
Using a Mitsubishi HC3800 DLP projector and my HTPC with a ATI 5850 HD video card, what mode pixel format should I select in the ATI Catalyst CCC menu for testing while using an HDMI connection and ArcSoft's TotalMedia Theater Platinum software?

Good luck if it is like my 5xxx card. You get totaly different black levels from TMT to WMC. ATI drives are really crap I think.
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Ok, I will mess around with the different Pixel modes in the driver menu to see which one gives me the best calibrated settings. When I am using the AVCHD disc, is there any other guide besides the one in the pdf file that will tell me how to use these screens? Some of the screens are not talked about in the PDF file.
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Thank you for your answer. After extensive reading and testing I think its safe to conclude - the "stuttering" I notice is due to low frame-rate rather than judder.

Yeah I also get the stuttering, does that mean I shouldnt upscale to 1080p and keep it at 720p?
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When using the contrast test pattern, do I want all the bars to flash up to 253 as my ideal setting? Or do I just want 230-234 to flash? I'm not sure after reading the instructions. Thanks.
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There really is not a one size fits all answer for contrast, and either may be acceptable. Showing all levels above white would probably be the text book recommendation, but one downside of showing all above white levels is that white will not be as bright. On the other hand a downside of showing no levels above white is that there's more chance of color shift near white. If your display can cut-off above whites, choosing a middle-ground of displaying a few levels above white would be the way I'd probably go in terms of giving any broad recommendation.
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There really is not a one size fits all answer for contrast, and either may be acceptable. Showing all levels above white would probably be the text book recommendation, but one downside of showing all above white levels is that white will not be as bright. On the other hand a downside of showing no levels above white is that there's more chance of color shift near white. If your display can cut-off above whites, choosing a middle-ground of displaying a few levels above white would be the way I'd probably go in terms of giving any broad recommendation.

Thanks. Are you saying to "split the difference"? For instance, when I flash just 230-234, the contrast setting is 21(out of 30). When I flash all the bars from 230-253, the contrast is 13(out of 30). But what I don't understand is, I can also see all the bars when contrast is set at 7, 1 and -1. That's why I don't know what to set contrast at. When you say "levels above white", I don't know what that means. If the bars look pinkish, does that mean it's the wrong contrast setting?
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sera posible el enlace para bajar las peliculas hdmv o bdmv ,perdonen ,soy nuevo en esto y pregunto
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I don't speak Spanish, but it sounds like he is requesting a link to download the hdmv version (and apologizing for being a newbie).

I would direct him to the first post in this thread.
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Thanks. Are you saying to "split the difference"? For instance, when I flash just 230-234, the contrast setting is 21(out of 30). When I flash all the bars from 230-253, the contrast is 13(out of 30). But what I don't understand is, I can also see all the bars when contrast is set at 7, 1 and -1. That's why I don't know what to set contrast at. When you say "levels above white", I don't know what that means. If the bars look pinkish, does that mean it's the wrong contrast setting?

Seeing pink would be what I called color shift. At the 21 setting if you see pink then you need to turn down contrast, because you do not want 230-235 showing pink. Turning down contrast will cause any color shift toward pink to happen at higher video levels, and you want to try to keep any shift toward pink above white (235). Using the contrast setting of 13 would probably be a generally safe setting where 230-235 will not have much color shift. If you want to go higher than 13, to have brighter whites, just try to limit any color shift near white. The Grayscale Ramp pattern from the Misc Patterns can also be used to look at any shift toward pink near white.
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