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Major spoilers. Don't read if you haven't beaten Bioshock.



Ok, so I beat Bioshock saving all the little sisters, got the good ending. Just went online to see the bad ending, but I'm totally confused now. The end cut scene still shows all of the little sisters jumping on and jacking up Fontaine. Aren't they all supposed to be dead b/c you harvested them and they didn't survive the process. What gives?

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There were more little sisters than what was running with Big Daddies.
Ol' whats-her-name was preparing more little sis's when the shite hit the fan....

But when you enter the last level, after Fontaine eats it, the little sisters talk bad about you, versus the "good" version....where they say "He's the one that saves us!"
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that makes sense. but why are the little sister's eyes normal instead of all bugged out and yellow?

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According to Ken Levine, those weren't his ideal endings and they may have been a bit more rushed than he would have liked. So they may not be all that true to the rest of the storyline.

For my money, the ending(s) was/were very rushed feeling and abrupt. I was kinda pissed when I finished the game, so the last things I was worrying about were story inaccuracies.

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The good ending kinda killed the chance for a Sequel based on the original Story, while the evil ending opened one up for the Sequel.
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The good ending kinda killed the chance for a Sequel based on the original Story, while the evil ending opened one up for the Sequel.

I agree one hundred percent.
The good ending left no doubt, everyone lives happily ever after.

And I was kinda pissed too.

I felt like "shocking then whacking" a few software developers.

Boy-o!

Now would you kindly, write another video game?

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Wait I thought Levine thought stories were pointless in video games .
Anyway it would have been a little better if the good ending and the bad ending were more different then they were, why would the little sisters even WANT to rescue you in the bad ending. Also, there should have been a third ending for the in-between people.
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I thought they were a couple of the worst endings I've ever seen - for current gen. games, of course.
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I dunno, i liked the "good" ending. What I don't quite get is who you are in the first place. A clone, some schmuck who gets brainwashed, or was Fontaine just jacking with you?
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that makes sense. but why are the little sister's eyes normal instead of all bugged out and yellow?

if you listened to the story you'd know that you were savnig the little sisters and making them human again.
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You're a clone of Ryan grown in a hooker/stripper.
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You're a clone of Ryan grown in a hooker/stripper.

I thought the main character was Ryan's illegitimate love child with the stripper. I was a little hazy on that bit as there were some things to indicate both possibilities.
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I thought they were a couple of the worst endings I've ever seen - for current gen. games, of course.

Totally agree. Way overhyped story for this game.

Apparently, the beginning cut-scene was a late, tacked-on addition as well.

The only way this game showed any kind of intriguing storyline was in the small art design details and architectural motifs. I was totally disappointed by almost every other aspect of this game's "storytelling," especially the ending(s).

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The story was intriguing and I enjoyed every part of the game except the ending(s). I actually enjoyed the game so much I played it all the way through back to back. I beat it once saving all the sisters and the other time harvesting them all.

Bioshock is still my favorite 360 shooter game (Gears of War a close second).

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if you listened to the story you'd know that you were savnig the little sisters and making them human again.

if you'd read the OP, you'd see that I was asking about the evil ending, the one where you harvest and don't save the little sisters.

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I thought the main character was Ryan's illegitimate love child with the stripper. I was a little hazy on that bit as there were some things to indicate both possibilities.

Technically, he's a little of both. The stripper got herself pregnant by Ryan without telling him. She had made a deal with Fontaine and sold him the embryo. When Ryan found out, he killed her in a fit of rage. The embryo was growth-accelerated in a lab by Su Chong and programmed by him and the Tannenbaum, growing him to adulthood with the use of Adam in about 2 years time. They sent him off to wait for the appointed time to trigger.

You can get specifics from a bunch of different recordings that spell it out over the course of the game.
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if you'd read the OP, you'd see that I was asking about the evil ending, the one where you harvest and don't save the little sisters.

yes , but there are the little sisters she has been saving as she mentions in her lair when you wake up there
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Major spoilers. Don't read if you haven't beaten Bioshock.



Ok, so I beat Bioshock saving all the little sisters, got the good ending. Just went online to see the bad ending, but I'm totally confused now. The end cut scene still shows all of the little sisters jumping on and jacking up Fontaine. Aren't they all supposed to be dead b/c you harvested them and they didn't survive the process. What gives?

No... you don't remember that part where you had to protect the Little Sisters when they were "normal" again? I wouldn't blame you, that part was pretty lame, but it was pretty clear that not *every* LS died.

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The embryo was growth-accelerated in a lab by Su Chong and programmed by him and the Tannenbaum, growing him to adulthood with the use of Adam in about 2 years time.

Man... I loved that Su Chong character. So well done... and you never even saw him!
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His last audio diary was one of the best parts of the game I thought.

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No... you don't remember that part where you had to protect the Little Sisters when they were "normal" again? I wouldn't blame you, that part was pretty lame, but it was pretty clear that not *every* LS died.

totally forgot about that part. thanks! actually beat it months ago and that part slipped my mind. evil ending makes much more sense now.

recently repurchased and am loving my second run-through.

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totally forgot about that part. thanks! actually beat it months ago and that part slipped my mind. evil ending makes much more sense now.

recently repurchased and am loving my second run-through.

It's funny, but a lot of people say this is a one time play game.
I have replayed it several times and enjoy doing so.
Glad some others find replay value is there....
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I just remembered, you get that ending if you just harvested a few of them... maybe even one of them.
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pretty sure you need to harvest at least two.

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