Originally Posted by mastermaybe
Additionally, already there are DOZENS of blu-ray titles available for 19.99 and less...where do think these prices are going? Oh an d by the way, lets not even bring up the qualtiy of 95% of avail d-loads...we all know no one cares about that anyway
Couple of things that you aren't grasping here:
1) Unless your a technophile, you can't tell the difference between a BluRay or a Cable HDTV broadcast or a highly-compressed X264/WMVHD file. Alot of people wont be able to tell the difference between an upscaled DVD and a BD, or the above mentioned transportation solutions. Stop knocking "downloaded HD"....I dont know about AppleTV, but if it sucks, blame Apple.
The HD I can get from comcast or Microsoft looks sufficiently HD to my eyes.
I dont get nearly the kind of macroblocking I used to.
Again, we're talking REAL WORLD HD use
...not this "Lets freeze the screen and blow up a section of it to see if that sign in the background can be read on both copies of this movie" crap.......like the review sites like to do. Real world "Press play and hand me the popcorn and oh can you pause it I have to pee" movie watching.
That said, you (and others) are STILL missing the point...even SONY's d-load sevice will not out-pace the blu-rays sales!!!
And what you aren't acknowledging is that we are BARELY into DVD being 10 years old, and really DVD didn't catch fire until 2001/2002, so people who finally abandoned their VHS collections just a few years ago are now building up a DVD library. Do you HONESTLY
expect people, who have just amassed whatever DVD collection they have over the past few years at Circuit City and Best Buy $9.99 or $7.99 sales, to suddenly start to pony up $19.99 to $35.00 for a High Def copy of the movie that ALREADY
looks and sounds AWESOME on their existing sets?
Answer: Hell No. Its going to take time........and its also going to take:
1) $200 BD players
2) $9.99-$14.99 BD movies, none of this $27.50 crap at launch....
NOW IN THE MEAN TIME.....we've got Cable Companies offering more and more direct download PPV stuff in HD, I just checked and there were like 20 FREE Movies I could get in HD on Comcast yesterday, and if I wanted to pay? Well quite a few more. Then there are the on-demand ones in HD I can get out of Starz or HBO.....
People love to have a hard-copy, yes, but you DO understand that THAT PARADIGM IS SHIFTING right? Don't base your experience with Apple TV (an obscure device if I may be so bold) as some kind of litmus for all streaming technologies.
It (pay per view) has been around for years and people who said the same about dvd sales were wrong: It HASN'T happened and it is not going to happen anytime soon (a couple more years at least).
Blockbuster is worried that rentals are down in their stores......NetFlix is teaming up to make their streaming service work on more than just PC's, soon to be able to stream to set-top boxes (and, rumor has it, to Xbox 360's and maybe even PS3's??)......whats that tell you?
People don't want to "rent" their movies any more than they want to rent their music.
That is, quite frankly, the first time I've heard a person make that sweeping generalization in a long, long time. Today everything is disposable...and the more things are disposable, the less people feel they need to own something, so renting becomes just fine.
People LOVE to rent movies, rather than own.....they only own when its a movie they want to watch over and over, or when getting to the rental store is too inconvenient. Thanks to streaming and mail-services, those roadblocks have come down significantly.
Plus, with so many double, triple and quadruple dips in the DVD world, smarter consumers are out there saying "Why should I buy this disc at full price, there's gonna be a better special edition coming along soon anyhow, I'lljust rent it and wait for the GOOD ONE".
Apple and friends (read HOLLYWOOD) will continue to just "lend" online video content. Even DTV just announced that they will not allow their on demand content to be saved to their own hard drive (thanks a**holes!!!).
You gotta get off this apple thing, clearly the service sucks according to you....but thats not the same with everything. I love Netflix's free streaming to my PC, I've used it in hotel rooms...I've used it sitting at my PC while doing work, etc. For a new movie that I dont want to own but might want to check out, why get in my car or wait for a netflix queue to become available when i can just pay $4 bucks and stream the movie right to my projector in HD?
If there was no value in that, or a huge demand for that, you wouldn't see companies investing so heavily in the technology.
I promise you. watch it happen. I suiggest people stop putting the cart before the horse and spend more time getting serious about how this country goes about business. Downloads "are" the future just not the future of the masses in the next 24months or so.
I dunno dude, I think you're a little bit excitable about this whole BD thing.
Yeah its cool, and yeah its the only kid on the block, and yeah it will be the defacto standard...someday. But saying that is alot like saying "Water is Wet".
You make it sound like the world will be kicking and screaming and breaking down doors to get at BD's, and anything that doesnt play BD's will be left in the dust. Clearly, with BD's on the market for 2 years now....that ain't happening.
Even with BD now being the only game in town disc-wise....its still not happening.
Also remember, if the cable companies deploy DOCSIS 3.0 this year, an 8 gigabyte download will take just a few minutes....and you'd be amazed at what you can compress into 8 gigs at 720p (or even 1080p) using a modern codec like WMVHD (VC1) or X/H264 (MPEG4).