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I check in and read your updates about every other day reaper. Keep em coming This game looks great!!


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Though all of his answers are not new, some of this information hasn't been previously confirmed:

-You can turn off your compass, cross-hair, or health, stamina, and magicka bars by adjusting the HUD opacity settings

-After picking flowers, they are removed visually from the plant

-No more speechcraft mini-game like OB. Speechcraft will now be more like Fallout 3

-Alchemy must be done at an alchemy lab or 'station' and can no longer be done on the fly while out in the game world like in Oblivion (Much more realistic if you ask me.)

-There is a decapitation perk that is part of the one-handed perk tree

-While playing, Pete's character was given a 'Choose Your Adventure' type book BY A CHILD in the game - so in addition to regular books, there are 'interactive' books in Skyrim

-He was asked if the player actually goes out into the woods to cut down trees, which we don't. It will be a station we go to like in the demo where you see the man moving the large log onto the cutting area. It's a designated station we use to cut wood, just like the stations for alchemy and forging. His exact words: 'No, it's almost like a "station", like you have for alchemy or the forge. You go use a woodpile.'

-You can have a weapon in your left hand and nothing in your right

-Right bumper is SHOUT, left bumper is SPRINT

-(Previously confirmed) You can only view your character in the game world, not in the menu

-(Previously confirmed) The random third person finishing moves can not be turned off

-(Previously confirmed) Midnight releases are definitely happening

Pete also cleared up that CVG article that stated 'Skyrim is considerably smaller than both Cyrodiil and Morrowind' by stating 'They're mistaken. If anything, it's bigger, certainly in terms of content.'

He also explained the need for the clairvoyance spell: Stating that it is a 'quest target,' and further explained that 'in the demo, the next step in the quest was to return to the quest giver, which would lead you from the dungeon.' There’s also a proper explanation by Todd Howard explaining that 'the spell creates a path to the current objective,' and that 'the reason for this spell is that the dungeons can sometimes get confusing.'

I knew the dungeons were hand crafted by level designers, but this points to them being much more elaborate than I first imagined!
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I'll probably be cancelling my PS3 preorder for this one, the faster load times from the full HDD install alone should make it worth it.

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I'll probably be cancelling my PS3 preorder for this one, the faster load times from the full HDD install alone should make it worth it.

I've seen the fastest loads from a good USB stick.

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I've seen the fastest loads from a good USB stick.

Interesting, didn't know that you could run the games off of USB as well as the HDD... Not surprising that a flash based device is faster though.

Still, I have a 250gb 360, and a 160gb PS3, but the PS3 install is mandatory and still won't compare to the 360 version's install. I'm getting tired of required installs that still can't match the 360 version's disk only load times. I'm currently rebuying some of my favorite games on 360 if they run noticably better, and going for the 360 version of most multiplatform games so long as the PS3 version doesn't have a noticable edge.

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I have been trying to avoid too much news on this and usually scan the thread real fast to see if there is anything that I can read that won't spoil anything once it is in my hands. I really wish I skipped all news so I would have been completely shocked by Dragons. Still checking in, but don't want to ask questions to get answers I really don't want to hear!

Reaper you are the man keeping this thread as filled with info as you have.

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You know what, forget summoning wolves and skeletons, I want to be able to call forth Dragons to incinerate my foes.

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I've seen the fastest loads from a good USB stick.

What are the minimum and recommended specifications for a USB drive used for game installation purposes (only)? I know that the maximum size is 16 GB, but I don't know if I've seen the specific performance numbers quoted anywhere. Are those published, or do we just have to try and guess and/or base it on anecdotal comments from other users?

I suppose the newer game installs probably don't fit on a 4 GB stick, eh?
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What are the minimum and recommended specifications for a USB drive used for game installation purposes (only)? I know that the maximum size is 16 GB, but I don't know if I've seen the specific performance numbers quoted anywhere. Are those published, or do we just have to try and guess and/or base it on anecdotal comments from other users?

I suppose the newer game installs probably don't fit on a 4 GB stick, eh?

I don't know that any retail game would fit on 4gb, though Oblivion is actually the smallest install I have and might be *just* under that.
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What are the minimum and recommended specifications for a USB drive used for game installation purposes (only)? I know that the maximum size is 16 GB, but I don't know if I've seen the specific performance numbers quoted anywhere. Are those published, or do we just have to try and guess and/or base it on anecdotal comments from other users?

I suppose the newer game installs probably don't fit on a 4 GB stick, eh?

Pretty much any decent stick will do, biggest difference is in write/install speeds. I personally use the patriot xplorer xt rage drives - there really aren't any faster drives on the market.

It's going through the USB interface so reads top out at like 16mb a sec - which the internal drive can exceed in a perfect scenario, which basically never happens. It's always bottlenecked by mechanical seeking, and the older your drive, the more fragmented it is.

On top of that, some games utilize the cache partition (oblivion included) to speed up loads - I don't know whether or not the OS makes post-NXE games aware that it's already fully installed, but if it doesn't, you run into a crazy scenario where it's reading one part of the drive to write it back to another part and it really degrades performance.

At least with the USB stick it's not reading and writing to the same device so you avoid that bottleneck. They excel at reading lots of small files from random places, and that's exactly what these games are doing. It definitely helped a lot in F:NV - still only saving a few seconds here or there but it adds up.

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I may pick up a decent 16-32gb stick for a couple of games then. Skyrim should be worth it.

What are some of the better sticks availible on Amazon?

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There are cheaper options but these are excellent. Installs just as fast to the stick as to the HDD. Read speed well exceeds what you need.

16gb is the max you can partition on the 360. You can use more than one at a time though, but no more than 16GB on each. That might change in the future, who knows. It's completely arbitrary...there's no technical reason it's limited. They just don't want to crater the market on their own HDDs.

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Very Nice, I'll be ordering one before Skyrim comes out for sure.

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Wait, how does the USB stick thing work? How do you load the game on it? I'm lost...
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I think you put the disc in the tray and then go to it... Instead of hitting a to play the game you hit y or some other button for more options. One of those other options is install. I presume you can then choose the destination.


I wonder if this frame I captured from the recent demo video confirms we can have impromptu camps like Red Dead Redemption!?
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I think you put the disc in the tray and then go to it... Instead of hitting a to play the game you hit y or some other button for more options. One of those other options is install. I presume you can then choose the destination.

You presume correctly. You may need to configure the USB key first under settings>memory IIRC. After you install, when the game starts, it'll automatically load from USB. At some point a game will usually ask you where to save...it's safe to still save to the HDD.

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You presume correctly. You may need to configure the USB key first under settings>memory IIRC. After you install, when the game starts, it'll automatically load from USB. At some point a game will usually ask you where to save...it's safe to still save to the HDD.

Wow, I really had no idea this was possible. I've never really bothered with installs since I have an old 20GB unit--and I refuse to pay for MS's ridiculously overpriced proprietary drives. But this is (old!) news I didn't expect.

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Wow, I really had no idea this was possible. I've never really bothered with installs since I have an old 20GB unit--and I refuse to pay for MS's ridiculously overpriced proprietary drives. But this is (old!) news I didn't expect.

You realize it costs more per gb for a usb than Microsoft's hard drives.
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You realize it costs more per gb for a usb than Microsoft's hard drives.

very true, but a flash drive is much faster, and you can still use the flash drive for many other uses

i've got a speedy 16gb, i partitioned enough space just to install bad company 2 and i could get into the map and get the jump on everyone else in multiplayer because i was loading in quite a bit faster.

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Price of the drive dropped to $25, if I hadn't blown almost $200 on Amazon deals this past month I would jump on it, but I am already over budget for entertainment stuff. (gotta save money for the holiday sales that are coming soon.)

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You realize it costs more per gb for a usb than Microsoft's hard drives.

It's not like I can buy an MS harddrive at a "per GB" rate.

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New info from EDGE magazine summarized here...

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@DCDeacon Will you guys be releasing any new video footage for the game before November? We love the 40 mins that we have now but we crave.

@wykrhm We will likely show more gameplay footage, though I don't know if it'd be exactly like what we put out. Stay tuned...
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I'm more excited for this than I thought. Reading that history of Bethesda's work reminds me of how I felt each time I played one of the Elder Scrolls games for the first time. Sheer joy. I remember how awe-inspiring Arena was, how huge Daggerfall was, how deep Morrowind was, and how beautiful Oblivion was. It's all coming back. Not all of the Elder Scrolls games are masterpieces (that title belongs to Morrowind alone), but they're all consistently great. Truly can't wait.

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I've been playing Oblivion as much as I can lately. I'm 40 hours in and I'm still worried I might not be done with it by the time Skyrim comes out
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Just how big is that Dragon in the first pic!?

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Just how big is that Dragon in the first pic!?

VERY!

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