Originally Posted by cybersoga
Dude, no offense but read the original post again. If the xbox 360 is set to output YCbCr all the time (the same as using a component video cable) then video levels in games and DVD's do not match. That is the point i'm trying to make.
Dude, no offense but you are wrong. If the xbox is set to do everything at YCbCr then yes its doing the exact same thing for games and dvd's. YCbCr is component and its always 16-235. When the 360 is outputting YCbCr it is taking the games that are normally RGB 16-235 and converting them to YCbCr. Then end result looks exactly the same. The only time you are going to see a difference is if you have reference levels set to expanded, and using rgb. I will say this again "RGB can be 16-235, or 0-255" " " YCbCr is always 16-235".
If you are getting black crush on your tv by using expanded, then you need to set it to standard. You do not just raise the brightness level to compensate. By doing this you are displaying the image incorrectly. If your tv can display the image correctly by using some type of pc color mode or pc color hdmi mode then you are good to go. If your tv crushes blacks with expanded then that means your tv is not designed to accept and display PC levels. Here is the best solution for everyone on using hdmi color space and refrence level settings.
HDMI set to auto and reference levels standard if: Your tv can do both RGB and YCbCr but your not sure if your tv can do PC levels. "if your tv crushes blacks on expanded this setting applies to you"
HDMI set YCbCr and reference levels standard if: your not sure your tv can properly convert RGB to YCrCB by making the output of the 360 always YCrCB you are only sending out component color at 16-235 space. This will work with every digital tv on the planet.
HDMI set to auto, source, RGB and reference levels Expanded if: your display is a pc monitor, or your tv looks washed out when set to standard "remember some displays have the ability to switch between pc levels and video levels, so always check for compatability first"
I will say this one last time On a display that is calibrated correctly and is able to display video levels and pc levels, there is no visible difference between standard and expanded.