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Alright, we know that the 2k series hasn't really done a whole lot of good since they've had the MLB license all to their own, but 2k10 is looking decent.

I don't have a PS3, and am not intersted in buying for one game (MLB 10), so MLB 2k10 will have to do. Last year they made some improvements, but it's still not where MVP 05 was or where MLB the Show is...

Here's the first trailer...

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With all the great games coming up and currently out for the PS3, your best bet is to plunk down the money for a PS3. 2K has been very disappointing, and to say that 2K9 was improved is crazy. The Show is so amazing if you like any sports game. The only problem with The Show has been online, but this year they have fixed it.

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With all the great games coming up and currently out for the PS3, your best bet is to plunk down the money for a PS3. 2K has been very disappointing, and to say that 2K9 was improved is crazy. The Show is so amazing if you like any sports game. The only problem with The Show has been online, but this year they have fixed it.

To me, The Show's animations seem stiff. It's hard to describe. And no, I am not plunking down $360 for a game and system that I will only use for about 5-6 months. I have no interest in owning a PS3. Even if my dude Mauer is on the cover

As for 2k9 not being an improvement, you must not have played 2k8

2k7 has been the best of the next gen 2k baseball games. 2k9's presentation was better than The Show's IMO. Seamless commentary is very good.

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I hope this one is good...been wanting a baseball game since the days of MVP, but with the 360 there hasn't been anything worth buying yet. I saw a video a while back and think I remember reading something where there is the charge meter for fielding/throwing like there was in MVP.
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Yeah, I hope there are some good gameplay videos coming soon, there is less than a month now for release. I'm debating on getting mine through Amazon @ $55 with the $10 towards a future game.

I really hope this is the year... I feel like a Cub fan saying this

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No offense - but I can't believe anyone would give this game another shot, especially after it was announced that check swings were removed from this years game. Are you kidding me? Very reluctantly bought a PS3 last year after being hardcore 2kbaseball fanatic from 2002-2005.
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No offense - but I can't believe anyone would give this game another shot, especially after it was announced that check swings were removed from this years game. Are you kidding me? Very reluctantly bought a PS3 last year after being hardcore 2kbaseball fanatic from 2002-2005.

If it ain't one thing it's another. No check swing huh? I guess I can overlook that , gotta see what The Show is up to this year. I haven't looked at either game. Only time will tell I guess. I'll probably wait till they both come out and see what the people say. I'm in no rush for baseball this year.

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No offense - but I can't believe anyone would give this game another shot, especially after it was announced that check swings were removed from this years game. Are you kidding me? Very reluctantly bought a PS3 last year after being hardcore 2kbaseball fanatic from 2002-2005.

http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/02/08...ngs-with-patch

Calm down... They seem to be wanting to make things right. It seems stupid they would remove them, but we're getting them back at least.

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http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/02/08...ngs-with-patch

Calm down... They seem to be wanting to make things right. It seems stupid they would remove them, but we're getting them back at least.

This game is already doomed if they can't even have check swings in the original plan. It could take weeks or months before the patch would even come out. I really want this game to succeed because I play most of my games on the 360, but I'm staying far away from this one.

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2k7 has been the best of the next gen 2k baseball games. 2k9's presentation was better than The Show's IMO. Seamless commentary is very good.

really? 2K7?

I owned 2K7 and played the full 162 game season or whatever the hell it is... I started off on the default settings. BAM homerun every other batter.. so I started cranking up the difficulty. Even Legendary didn't suffice, so I pushed the sliders even further till I could create what I felt played like a real game of baseball.

Even past legendary difficulty I had so many homers that the numbers flipped to negatives. Think that happened somewhere past 100 homers for the season.

and then the runners going without command because you had scored too many runs in one inning so the AI could get an out and end things.

wish I could remember the countless other bugs in there. Then 2K8 was somehow buggier, I didn't even bother with 2k9, how buggy is 2k10 going to be?

I'd love for it to be good, but no sports game coming from 2K has even been playable for a while.
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To me, The Show's animations seem stiff. It's hard to describe. And no, I am not plunking down $360 for a game and system that I will only use for about 5-6 months.

How many years in a row have you said this now though? Maybe I'm just a huge baseball fan.

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What's the deal with the MLB license? I still don't understand why Sony is able to put out a game in addition to the MLB2K games. I'm assuming that there is only one 3rd party license which belongs to 2K, but MS or Sony has the option to license their own game?

I'm lucky enough to own a PS3 too, so it's MLB The Show all the way for me. Last year was the first year I tried the franchise, and for me, it's by far the best sports package out there (minus the online lag issues).

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Yeah, the past few years 2k has gotten my hopes up that they'd finally get it this year, but has let me down every time, so I'm not interested in this at all.

I don't have a PS3 and won't get one just for a baseball game either. So, I can't compare to the Show. But I still load up MVP05 when I want a good baseball game, because it's still a million times better than the 2k series.

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Got a PS3 for xmas so I'm looking forward to my first season of the Show. I've really enjoyed it on the PSP.
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Got a PS3 for xmas so I'm looking forward to my first season of the Show. I've really enjoyed it on the PSP.

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What's the deal with the MLB license? I still don't understand why Sony is able to put out a game in addition to the MLB2K games. I'm assuming that there is only one 3rd party license which belongs to 2K, but MS or Sony has the option to license their own game?

I'm lucky enough to own a PS3 too, so it's MLB The Show all the way for me. Last year was the first year I tried the franchise, and for me, it's by far the best sports package out there (minus the online lag issues).

Yeah I'm not sure what the story is behind the license, but MLB is pathetic when it comes to their fans, just look at how they licensed the extra innings packages for cable/satellite.
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What's the deal with the MLB license? I still don't understand why Sony is able to put out a game in addition to the MLB2K games. I'm assuming that there is only one 3rd party license which belongs to 2K, but MS or Sony has the option to license their own game?

The MLB license is an exclusive third-party license, so yes, any first-party developer can make an MLB game. In that aspect, it's less restrictive than the NFL, which has EA as the exclusive developer.

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MLB is pathetic when it comes to their fans, just look at how they licensed the extra innings packages for cable/satellite.

I disagree entirely, honestly. First of all, for the MLB, you can get Extra Innings on pretty much any provider you use, whether it's satellite, or cable. In addition, if you don't want to get the Extra Innings package, there are other options. For example, they have the excellent MLB.tv setup. Sure, you pay a fee for that, but at least there are a few options.

On the other hand, the NFL has their Sunday Ticket package, which is exclusively available to DirecTV subscribers. And if you don't want to switch to DirecTV and want to watch out of market games, tough luck. There's no equivalent streaming service from the NFL... unless you're already a DirecTV subscriber, and get the Sunday Ticket package, and pay extra for the Superfan package.

I'd gladly pay the NFL a fee to be able to stream all 16 of my team's games rather than be stuck with the local networks which show 5 or 6 if I'm lucky. But they don't really care about that like the MLB does.

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The MLB license is an exclusive third-party license, so yes, any first-party developer can make an MLB game. In that aspect, it's less restrictive than the NFL, which has EA as the exclusive developer.



I disagree entirely, honestly. First of all, for the MLB, you can get Extra Innings on pretty much any provider you use, whether it's satellite, or cable. In addition, if you don't want to get the Extra Innings package, there are other options. For example, they have the excellent MLB.tv setup. Sure, you pay a fee for that, but at least there are a few options.

On the other hand, the NFL has their Sunday Ticket package, which is exclusively available to DirecTV subscribers. And if you don't want to switch to DirecTV and want to watch out of market games, tough luck. There's no equivalent streaming service from the NFL... unless you're already a DirecTV subscriber, and get the Sunday Ticket package, and pay extra for the Superfan package.

I'd gladly pay the NFL a fee to be able to stream all 16 of my team's games rather than be stuck with the local networks which show 5 or 6 if I'm lucky. But they don't really care about that like the MLB does.

Yes I believe now you can get it with most anyone except for Dish Network, which naturally I have. And IIRC it literally took an act of congress to keep it from becoming a DirectTV exclusive as well. I have been using the MLB.TV service for the last three years and it's been steadily improving but far from the kind of service that you get from the extra innings and for similar costs. Not to mention being blacked out of Nationally televised games that aren't being shown in my market is very frustrating. I'm not that much of an NFL fan so to me its apples and oranges, you're talking about 16 games vs. 162 games, when most weeks the best games are going to be shown nationally on NFL network, CBS, FOX, NBC, or ESPN. YMMV
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Gameplay vid. Finally!
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Hmm, the gameplay video does look intriguing... maybe I'll rent it this year and give it a shot.

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I heard the demo drops tomorrow. I can't help but get excited and get my hopes up. Same boat here, no PS3, and won't buy it for one game. 2K10 is our only hope. Marginal increases in 2K7/8/9, hopefully a leap in 2K10.

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I thought this was the best of the bunch so far for 2K10 trailers, especially being a Tigers fan..


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The new "My Player" mode sounds interesting: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/23/ne...kes-the-mound/

I know it's a lot like Superstar mode in Madden or whatever, but baseball is a lot more of an individual sport, it might be more interesting there.

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The new "My Player" mode sounds interesting: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/23/ne...kes-the-mound/

I know it's a lot like Superstar mode in Madden or whatever, but baseball is a lot more of an individual sport, it might be more interesting there.

OK now I am on board. Although I did like playing my NCAA football star there were camera issues that still need to be worked out to make that a good mode for football. But adding the be-a-pro to hockey made NHL exceptionally good and I can see it doing the same for Baseball. Here is hoping they implement it well. If so I will be picking this game up.
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In My Player for the minors/MLB you just pick a team to play for or do you get drafted? That was a nice touch in NHL 10 to play the juniors game and get drafted.

think I saw this on another board, but maybe you guys can verify. I heard if you are a catcher they don't let you call the pitches????
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Demo was pretty good...very similar to 2k9 imo.

One thing I noticed was lack of crowd interaction w/ foul balls. Maybe that's just in the demo build but it was a cool touch in 2k9.

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Here's a link to the demo.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/ga...8863?cid=SLink

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To me, The Show's animations seem stiff. It's hard to describe. And no, I am not plunking down $360 for a game and system that I will only use for about 5-6 months. I have no interest in owning a PS3. Even if my dude Mauer is on the cover



+1 I am a 2k die hard since it was WSB. I have tried a few times over the last few years to jump on the Show bandwagoin, but the game is just dull and boring to me. Hard to explain. Even in its wrost iterations 2k baseball feels more "alive" then The Show.

Its like the Show is almost too perfect. It feels robotic. Feels like your controlling pre determined animations rather then live action. I have tried very hard to like it, but I just dont.

I pretty much havent played a MLB game since 2k5. Hopefully this year is better. But every year there seems to be a flaw in 2k that kills the game for me.
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So I got the demo, and it does seem to be improved from last year's version to me, though admittedly I didn't play that one all that much.

It continues to astound me that they think a 3-inning demo is going to make people buy the game though. There's only two teams in the game, and only the quick-play mode. Let us play a full 9-inning game to get an actual feel for how it plays. Nobody is going to play the demo over and over and over again if they like playing it. Limiting it to 3 only means that it barely tells anything about the game.

I do love the defensive swing idea though, that's long overdue. The camera while batting does seem to be a bit of an improvement from past years, but it's such a wide angle that I'm having difficulty timing the regular swing.

What I'm most unconvinced about remains fielding, which unsurprisingly has always been the number one thing I've disliked about the games in the past. The infield stuff seems to be better than I remember (though still not great), but it's the outfield play that I've never liked. In past versions, it always seemed like they tried to make camera angles like it looks on TV, at the expense of the gameplay. I haven't had enough hits to me in the outfield yet to see if that's improved.

Like I said before, I'll rent it, but am pretty unconvinced by a 3-inning demo.

Edit: And I can't figure out how to cut-off a throw after it's been thrown. I know LB throws to the relay in the first place, but it doesn't seem to work after a throw.

And is it just me or does the dirt look horrible (during the fielding cameras)? Also, still hate the A to cycle through baserunners thing.

And uh, the button it says to use for pinch hitting (down on the d-pad) doesn't work. And it says up for inside edge on the d-pad, and it's left and right. Can't warm up pitchers either, it seems. No pitch-out that I can see either.

Edit: And a stupid AI issue. I was taking a huge lead off second, and they clearly had me picked off, and I accidentally hit LT to go to third. The SS ran towards me, and then got about a foot away from me, and threw to third. I turn and go back to second, the throw comes back from third, and the SS catches the ball, doesn't tag me, and lets me just walk right back to second.

Also, sometimes the CPU baserunners on my own team are too aggressive, and other times not aggressive enough. I know I can control the latter, but if someone starts running home from third on a routine ground ball, it's too late to turn around.

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