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Zero kicks ass if you build him to NOT snipe. If you think he's boring or weak, that's because you were playing him to be boring and weak.
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Some of my friends started discussing Tiny Tina as a way to level up. I looked up some YouTube videos and it seemed easy enough; I'd done the 'trick' accidentally once as part of my first playthrough. However, any reference to "infinite XP" is either outdated or was never truthful in the first place. While the first two levels I advanced were *OK* due to Badass points being accumulated, It's going to take quite the while to get through a third.

Key chest does have DECENT drops, but some lemons still happen. Gaige got a decent sniper and E-Tech shotgun in one opening. Salvador got two grenades, then a rocket launcher, then two MORE grenades, and finally a sniper/E-Tech sniper combo. One key left now...

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Tiny Tina's "tea party failure" is THE way to power level, hands down. Upwards of 6,500 XP every 2-3 seconds makes Terramorphus' 20K in 2-3 minutes (after all the running, leaving, and coming back, etc.) look like an utter joke. Since I had absolutely "zero" use for the craptastic Zer0, I power leveled him up to the 30 levels required to get the cheevo and be done with his uninspired and weak ass forever...aside from being everyone else's weapons caddy. Took about 5-6 minutes to get from L1 to L30, tops. Key is to get a L50 that has left the mission open to do the killing. Park the lower level character on Tina and just keep accepting, failing, and repeating until you get the desired level.

While I'm not usually a fan of doing something like this, having the ability to power level Zer0 was a gift from the heavens. (I didn't level up any other characters on their way to 50, since that would be a travesty! eek.gif)

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Tiny Tina's "tea party failure" is THE way to power level, hands down. Upwards of 6,500 XP every 2-3 seconds makes Terramorphus' 20K in 2-3 minutes (after all the running, leaving, and coming back, etc.) look like an utter joke
Hang on. My Mechromancer results varied from yours.

Killing the party guest at Level 18 gave me a whopping 760 XP per kill. At 19, 285 XP. I gave up and went Terramorphous hunting for eridium and XP.

Are you saying that each and every kill, no matter the level of the killer, is/was giving you over 6.000 Xp that didn't dwindle at all? And how do you get that every few seconds when you have to run, kill, run, get quest again, repeat?...

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Hang on. My Mechromancer results varied from yours.
Killing the party guest at Level 18 gave me a whopping 760 XP per kill. At 19, 285 XP. I gave up and went Terramorphous hunting for eridium and XP.
Are you saying that each and every kill, no matter the level of the killer, is/was giving you over 6.000 Xp that didn't dwindle at all? And how do you get that every few seconds when you have to run, kill, run, get quest again, repeat?...

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Key is to get a L50 that has left the mission open to do the killing. Park the lower level character on Tina and just keep accepting, failing, and repeating until you get the desired level.

You missed the point entirely or didn't read it thoroughly. Let's say that I'm level 50 and you're level 1. I sit in front of Fleshstick's spawn and just stand there, killing him over and over and over again. You stand in front of Tina and just keep accepting the mission over and over and over again while I shoot the party guest, making the mission fail every 2-3 seconds. NO running involved whatsoever. In fact, nobody moves at all. You want the lower level character to join the higher level one's game, since Fleshstick will be at the level of the host. The higer the host level, the more XP, obviously. Even if you were L19 and I were L50, you'd still be getting absurd XP points.

In this scenario, I don't get anything out of this power-level glitch, but you level up at a ridiculous rate that makes farming Terramorphus feel like it takes an eternity for that paltry 20K. (6K X 40 = 240K in 2 mins, versus 20K in the same time is a no-brainer.) This isn't something one would do for characters one would actually enjoy playing the game with (Gaige, Axton, Maya) but it's great for Zer0 and Salvadore so that you can get to L30 and get their cheevos quickly without having to actually "play" with them. Once you hit 30, you can just use Zer0's "skill" on the first pack of Bullymongs you see, get the achievement, and be done with him forever. WOOT! cool.gif As for Salvadore, you can get 90 seconds of gunzerking easily in Frostburn Canyon if you have the perk that gives you more GZ time for each kill. It's pretty obvious that Gearbox knew who the good characters were and the bad, given the fact that the 3 good ones require you to actually play the game and kill 100 enemies with the skills, while the 2 crap ones only require you to power level and complete a simple task that takes only seconds. biggrin.gif

Now, perhaps you can explain how you supposedly go about killing Terramorphus at L18? confused.gif
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You missed the point entirely or didn't read it thoroughly.
Sure I missed it. The version I was talking about, the one documented in the YouTube videos I watched, was the solo version. I was doing that alone, because no friends were available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNr32xuEs8 for example shows 1710 XP to start but it decays as you level up, just like in my game.

Nowhere in the solo version do I earn 6,000+ XP per kill. What magic ramps the XP up that high, because I wouldn't drag someone in to help without that??
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When you give up doing something solo, you wait for your friends to come online and do something else. Didn't say I played the killer...

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Anyone here play with Axton? Just wondering if it is worth putting one point in Laser Sight for improved Sentry accuracy. I'm getting close to level 50 and am trying to decide the best skill-point allocation. Really glad Gearbox lets you respec so easily!

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Anyone here play with Axton? Just wondering if it is worth putting one point in Laser Sight for improved Sentry accuracy. I'm getting close to level 50 and am trying to decide the best skill-point allocation. Really glad Gearbox lets you respec so easily!

Do the math and decide if it's worth it. I believe each point increases accuracy by 10% - so essentially each point will increase the damage your turret does during its duration by 10%.
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Do the math and decide if it's worth it. I believe each point increases accuracy by 10% - so essentially each point will increase the damage your turret does during its duration by 10%.

Sort of, but I'd guess it depends on how one plays the game. If your turret is really close to the enemies, the accuracy won't make much difference. When I completed the game as Axton, I would run straight at the biggest foes and drop the turret right in front of their faces, then retreat a few yards and mop up from there. Hard to imagine the accuracy making a difference at such a short distance. For me, the points would be better spent elsewhere. If you're using the turret as a sniper rifle alternative, accuracy might help, but I don't know (nor have even heard of) anyone that plays that way since your bullets would be unlikely to hit anything even with the perk added.
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Sure I missed it. The version I was talking about, the one documented in the YouTube videos I watched, was the solo version. I was doing that alone, because no friends were available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNr32xuEs8 for example shows 1710 XP to start but it decays as you level up, just like in my game.
Nowhere in the solo version do I earn 6,000+ XP per kill. What magic ramps the XP up that high, because I wouldn't drag someone in to help without that??
When you give up doing something solo, you wait for your friends to come online and do something else. Didn't say I played the killer...

Sigh. Perhaps the third time will be the charm:
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Key is to get a L50 that has left the mission open to do the killing. Park the lower level character on Tina and just keep accepting, failing, and repeating until you get the desired level.

You're talking about playing solo and co-op in one breath, yet seemingly selectively choosing to ignore the fact that they are not one in the same. If you're playing solo, then there's NO point in power leveling with Terramorphus, since you're already at L50. If you're playing co-op with a L50 character as your buddy (which you would be if going against Terramorphus anyway) then power leveling with Terramorphus is silly and tedious beyond words compared to working Tiny Tina's Tea Party over and over for massive XP in the L50 player's game. Power leveling Tina's mission solo isn't worth your time, just like any other repetative endeavor like; farming, seeking Eridium, harvesting and RE-harvesting booses, etc.

I honestly don't know what else I can say to make you see the light. frown.gif
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Tiny Tina's "tea party failure" is THE way to power level, hands down. Upwards of 6,500 XP every 2-3 seconds makes Terramorphus' 20K in 2-3 minutes (after all the running, leaving, and coming back, etc.) look like an utter joke. Since I had absolutely "zero" use for the craptastic Zer0, I power leveled him up to the 30 levels required to get the cheevo and be done with his uninspired and weak ass forever...aside from being everyone else's weapons caddy. Took about 5-6 minutes to get from L1 to L30, tops. Key is to get a L50 that has left the mission open to do the killing. Park the lower level character on Tina and just keep accepting, failing, and repeating until you get the desired level.
While I'm not usually a fan of doing something like this, having the ability to power level Zer0 was a gift from the heavens. (I didn't level up any other characters on their way to 50, since that would be a travesty! eek.gif)
Note: STILL sitting on 15 keys to date...and counting. smile.gif

Can you do this in the same profile? If I use a guest account and split screen it won't save will it?

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I created a second profile to do it, which will save. Then I used Horizon to change the profile tags on the save (actually really easy to do) to port it to my main profile. I have one save file with the Tiny Tina mission open that I can use to power level myself without having to find anyone else to help. It's a little annoying having to run both controllers but easily doable and effective.
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So I am now at level 29 (very close to 30) and I am on the Final Mission (final Assault or whatever). Would it be wise to go fo more side mission to level up before taking it on? I didn't have any real trouble with the mission before that with my character at his current level. Just curious what you guys were at when doing the final mission.

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Key is to get a L50 that has left the mission open to do the killing.
And these people who qualify are, where? Is there a website where someone who has the correct game saved will accept reservations from the needy to drop in and get leveled up?

Almost completely useless information otherwise. 'Almost' because now somebody can start bragging they have such a save and would be willing to help out anybody who asks, for free. Oh, wait, that kind of generosity is rare.

I, however, get loot off Terramorphous Peak that makes farming there worth the effort. Friends ask, I switch to that game and they join. No problem.

Please only bring up glitches that are easy to reproduce...

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So I am now at level 29 (very close to 30) and I am on the Final Mission (final Assault or whatever). Would it be wise to go fo more side mission to level up before taking it on? I didn't have any real trouble with the mission before that with my character at his current level. Just curious what you guys were at when doing the final mission.
I was like 36 when I finished, due to killing some bosses over and over. You biggest issue will be getting weapons at your level if you go too far but not all the way to 50 via power-leveling. The Key Chest gives you the right level but lame stuff is what you see a lot from that.

If Sanctuary is still at 30 when you are at 30, I'd finish then. Gives you someplace to shop if you continue to TVHM immediately...

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And these people who qualify are, where? Is there a website where someone who has the correct game saved will accept reservations from the needy to drop in and get leveled up?
Almost completely useless information otherwise. 'Almost' because now somebody can start bragging they have such a save and would be willing to help out anybody who asks, for free. Oh, wait, that kind of generosity is rare.
I, however, get loot off Terramorphous Peak that makes farming there worth the effort. Friends ask, I switch to that game and they join. No problem.
Please only bring up glitches that are easy to reproduce...

so out of all the farming you've done you're telling us you don't know anyone that has a near level 50 tiny tina save?? I mean jesus christ I know there are places on the internet where people are discussing this and helping randoms out if they so desire. Just do some legwork. It's hard to drum up much sympathy when you are complaining about not being able to find glitching partners. I'd help you but I think my Tina level is in the 30s or something.

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so out of all the farming you've done you're telling us you don't know anyone that has a near level 50 tiny tina save?? I mean jesus christ I know there are places on the internet where people are discussing this and helping randoms out if they so desire. Just do some legwork. It's hard to drum up much sympathy when you are complaining about not being able to find glitching partners. I'd help you but I think my Tina level is in the 30s or something.
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I have found my luckiest friend. HE got a Level 30 Conference Call from his first Warrior kill, and tonight while helping him get to Sanctuary he found Level 32 orange grenades in once of those car-trunk chests.

Now he has a Level 26 Bee to go with the CC, so his need for assistance will drop for a while...

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Incredible. I told myself, No, he wouldn't another round of one-upmanship, playing the topper AGAIN. But you did. Amazing.
'Thanks', but I have all the help I need...

ok then. no idea what you are talkin about.

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And these people who qualify are, where? Is there a website where someone who has the correct game saved will accept reservations from the needy to drop in and get leveled up?
Almost completely useless information otherwise. 'Almost' because now somebody can start bragging they have such a save and would be willing to help out anybody who asks, for free. Oh, wait, that kind of generosity is rare.
I, however, get loot off Terramorphous Peak that makes farming there worth the effort. Friends ask, I switch to that game and they join. No problem.
Please only bring up glitches that are easy to reproduce...

Wow. Just...wow.

I have many, many, many friends that are L50 and purposely haven't completed the Tiny Tina mission on their TVH game. It's pretty easy, actually. Just don't complete it. If that's "not easy to reproduce," then I don't know what is. rolleyes.gif

Any random four persons from our large group will gather, and whomever needs leveling for a lame character like Zer0 just joins in any one of the vast number of us that have this so-called "difficult save" and in 5-10 minutes, they've got a L30 to L50 character for storage. We all share Shift codes, heads, etc., because that's what friends do. This "glitch" has been so well known for so long that it's considered common knowledge, much like 1+ 1 = 2. There's nothing ground-breaking here, just something that I thought everyone that played the game knew about. Sorry to hear that your so-called "friends" aren't willing to give you a few measly minutes of their time to help you out. frown.gif
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So I am now at level 29 (very close to 30) and I am on the Final Mission (final Assault or whatever). Would it be wise to go fo more side mission to level up before taking it on? I didn't have any real trouble with the mission before that with my character at his current level. Just curious what you guys were at when doing the final mission.

Completed the game on normal at nearly L33 with Maya the first time, and that was after completing EVERYTHING. Axton finished at L30. Gaige at 32. Salvadore at 27. My "Tiny Tina's Failed Mission Power-Leveled to L30 in 5 minutes" Zer0 never even made it to Sanctuary before I got the 10 seconds of "skill" cheevo with him and retired his sorry ass forever. That said, I'd personally recommend doing all the side missions anyway since most of them are fun and might give you some loot. Either way, you shouldn't have much trouble completing the game.
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Thanks Spyder. My thoughts are to go back to Sanctuary and do some of the side missions that are just below or at my level before going on and finishing the game. The timed missions I have no interest in doing. THe hamerlock missions seem to be annoying but they are quite far below my level I think. I am not much of a farmer which seems strange since I really do enjoy this game and look forward to the DLC. Its funny when I see all over the net (here included) how crazy some of the weapons are and relics people get. I can't think of one weapon other than a rocket launcher that has 13,000k of damage that impresses me. I guess it is probably due to only playing this game solo.

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Thanks Spyder. My thoughts are to go back to Sanctuary and do some of the side missions that are just below or at my level before going on and finishing the game. The timed missions I have no interest in doing. THe hamerlock missions seem to be annoying but they are quite far below my level I think. I am not much of a farmer which seems strange since I really do enjoy this game and look forward to the DLC. Its funny when I see all over the net (here included) how crazy some of the weapons are and relics people get. I can't think of one weapon other than a rocket launcher that has 13,000k of damage that impresses me. I guess it is probably due to only playing this game solo.

You really should do all the missions. Even those that seem annoying at first can be fun. The timed ones can indeed be a pain in the arse, but if it's the time itself that's the issue, I can tell you a trick that I fugured out: Before you start the actual mission, take one vehicle to the area where the enemies are. Kill everything, and leave that vehicle there. Walk to nearest Catch A Ride station and grab another car. Go to the mission startng point. From there, and depending on the situation, you can either drive to the nearest part of the objective, or teleport to your first car, or both; meaning, teleporting later in the mission if need be. This saves time, even if it's only a few seconds. (The first time I did Arms Dealing, I failed by less than 1 second. I was literally putting the last arm in the mailbox! frown.gif)

Finding weapons while actually playing is a nice gift, but farming is a boring endeavor that's a complete waste of time, imo. There isn't a single thing out there that you can't beat the game without in either solo or co-op. Playing with others isn't a proven formula for getting anything amazing either. I've got better stuff in my solo games that when others were with me. Even then, who cares? The best guns in the game become obsolete immediately after getting them unless you're L50...and once you're that high up, you don't even need them to blaze through the game without breaking a sweat. On a similar note, I imagine most billionaires don't spend hours looking for a penny that dropped into their couch either. wink.gif
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Sounds advice Spyder I appreciate it. Maybe I will go do a bunch more side missions (even the timed ones) and then head to the final assault. I only get to play about an hour a night after the kids are in bed so would like this game to continue.

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Wow. Just...wow.
I have many, many, many friends that are L50 and purposely haven't completed the Tiny Tina mission on their TVH game. It's pretty easy, actually. Just don't complete it. If that's "not easy to reproduce," then I don't know what is. rolleyes.gif
Any random four persons from our large group will gather, and whomever needs leveling for a lame character like Zer0 just joins in any one of the vast number of us that have this so-called "difficult save" and in 5-10 minutes, they've got a L30 to L50 character for storage. We all share Shift codes, heads, etc., because that's what friends do. This "glitch" has been so well known for so long that it's considered common knowledge, much like 1+ 1 = 2. There's nothing ground-breaking here, just something that I thought everyone that played the game knew about. Sorry to hear that your so-called "friends" aren't willing to give you a few measly minutes of their time to help you out. frown.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytzxUeoGOMI comes up when I expanded the search criteria based on your comments. The TVHM requirement is probably the sticking point, since all of my friends seem to PLAY the game, so when a quest comes up for those who've progressed well in TVHM, it gets done. None of my friends has spoken up about a change in what we do either, because we are happy with what we have going. Occasional death when the shooting doesn't work, laughs trying to land on the pit gate so the Borderlands symbol can be collected, joy over some head or whatever that was finally found, anger than another XXX head is only visible in one copy of the game so it can't be collected by anybody, that kind of stuff.

You have some sort of XP factory setup. Perhaps it's your idea of fun. I already know your other kind of fun: reenacting the Monty Python Argument Sketch, with me walking in as the Michael Palin character and you auto-gainsaying everything as John Cleese. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y even includes a pertinent comment: "This sketch prepared me for life on the mean streets of the internet.".

When Gaige finishes her first playthrough, I'll look up whatever needs doing to start the next game as 'real' TVHM. One friend said he simply leveled up to 50 THEN started TVHM and Knuckle Dragger in his TVHM game is at 50. My game, started at 36, he's 34. Mine is still in pause due to magic disappearing side quests.

So to sum up: people who want to crank out XP in a boring way use your method, people who want to have fun and maybe show off their shooting skills use mine.

Ready, set, go, John...

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http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/06/borderlands-2-updated-to-prevent-sabotage-exploit-on-xbox-360/

"Added security"? I hope hardcore mode is completely disabled...

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http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/06/borderlands-2-updated-to-prevent-sabotage-exploit-on-xbox-360/
"Added security"? I hope hardcore mode is completely disabled...

Huh? I read the whole article (including links) and there was no mention of any "hardcore" mode at all.

Do you mean True Vault Hunter Mode, and if so, why disable it?
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I just finished the wildlife preserve and seem to keep getting slag weapons. Any reason to keep them? I seem to like the other weapons better.

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