Originally Posted by gregzoll
Lord_Zath, outdated? Where are you coming up with this stuff? The 360 platform is far from being outdated. It is just now starting to flex its muscle and show off what it can do.
If engineers and sales & marketing thought like you, the 360 platform would have only been out on the market for six months and then gone.
It will continue to be a money maker for Microsoft for quite a few years, even after the NextGen for MS comes out, people will still be using the 360 platform for a while.
Try playing games like Battlefield 3. Look at what they can do on the PC. And I'm not just talking about graphics. Map size, player count, load times - it's all vastly superior.
How can you think 512MB of RAM is sufficient? Do you have any evidence to prove that the 360 is "just now starting to flex its muscles?" I've heard this argument for years - on both the 360 and the PS3 (and even the Wii to a certain extent).
Microsoft would be fools to not be considering the next console.
Your point about the console still being a moneymaker is exactly the point I was making - for a couple years, PS2 was still profitable after the PS3 came out.
Originally Posted by mboojigga
The 360 has been a extender since day one of its release in 05. Where have you been? Have you not figured out by now that this gen has been off the trail of previous gen cycles. It has been 7 years because they started at higher cost for the system, sales are still good , games are still being bought in millions and they are making a profit. Notice MS hasn't had an official price drop in what 2-3 years compared to the competition. Your in the minority of consumers that feel these systems are old. Consumers still buy MW2 because not everyone plays new games. People enjoy Kinect with 20 million sold. Blame us consumers don't blame the company that had a game plan and adjusting decisions based on economy and deals they struck that has us where we/they are today. It was the best selling system of 2011. Why are you comparing specs of a dedicated game console to a netbook? I cannot play Reach, Gears or Trials on the Netbook. Any multi-platform games that I could play on that Netbook still won't compare to the games I play when I am on Live with family and friends.
I like the capability that I already pay for Live for online that I have access to HBO Go, Netflix and Hulu all in one spot. Now I don't have to go to my computer to access YouTube and IGN anymore. It doesn't matter what capabilities the PS3 had as far as your opinion of it having superior media capabilities anymore than features that MS thought of as standard that Sony added on as afterthoughts.
I purchased a PS3 first (MGS4 pack; 2007?), then a Wii (2008?), then a 360 (RE5 bundle/Jasper - 2009?). So I haven't followed the 360 prior to then. I can say that from a media center perspective, the PS3 was vastly superior. It could output 7.1, lossless audio, had media card readers, gigabit NIC, and bluetooth. Comparing PS3 slim to 360 slim, sure - I'd also give the 360 an edge when it comes to accessing Internet based media.
I'm confused by "off the trail" - what do you mean here? As far as I can tell, they're doing the same thing that happened when the PS2 was king - release, 4 years or so later, re-release a slim version, a few years later, develop a new console.
Your argument about MW2 is rather flawed. People still buy PS2 games at Wal-Mart. Does that mean the PS2 is still alive and kicking?
I am also confused as to why you are bringing up Live and playing with friends. Didn't this also come up when the original XBOX was still king and the 360 was released? People with Live still had access to both, right? So why would it be a big deal if the new console came out? We're not talking about Live going away - just a new piece of hardware coming out.
I'm comparing my netbook to point out how far technology has advanced in 7 years. You're right, you can't play xbox 360 games on a netbook. I thought that was pretty obvious, and most people knew that.
Your last sentence is really hard to read.