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post #6931 of 17041 Old 08-20-2013, 12:32 PM
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I'm surprised they didn't announce the date, but the post was crystal clear that all these games will be available on launch day. There's two Nov 19th games on that list from two different publishers...if either of them has an exclusivity deal, at least one would have announced it by now.

Not saying it can't come out sooner, but that list is pretty strong evidence given it's source.

Well I was thinking about it and it's entirely possible the next gen versions of the games listed are coming out before their current gen counterparts. Improbable but not impossible. I doubt MS will risk missing the black Friday weekend so if worse comes to worse you have a week or so between PS4 and One launches. Not that bad as it gives each company at least a weekend to not have to fight over dollars. I'd prefer that as a customer personally since I will be getting both.


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Well I was thinking about it and it's entirely possible the next gen versions of the games listed are coming out before their current gen counterparts. Improbable but not impossible. I doubt MS will risk missing the black Friday weekend so if worse comes to worse you have a week or so between PS4 and One launches. Not that bad as it gives each company at least a weekend to not have to fight over dollars. I'd prefer that as a customer personally since I will be getting both.

Yeah, the last thing I wanted is for them to come out on the same day.

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I'm surprised they didn't announce the date, but the post was crystal clear that all these games will be available on launch day. There's two Nov 19th games on that list from two different publishers...if either of them has an exclusivity deal, at least one would have announced it by now.

Not saying it can't come out sooner, but that list is pretty strong evidence given it's source.

I don't know that we can use those launch day titles as an indication that the X1 isn't coming out prior to their release. The PS4 is releasing Nov 15th and yet many sites consider Watch Dogs a launch day title - in fact, Amazon has a launch day bundle with a PS4 and Watch Dogs. I would wager a guess that Microsoft was waiting to announce a date so they could be certain to beat Sony to the punch. I'd be surprised if they didn't release before the 15th.
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My current prediction is that they will announce the release date tomorrow during the Gamescon keynote! (At least I really hope they do...)

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I don't know that we can use those launch day titles as an indication that the X1 isn't coming out prior to their release. The PS4 is releasing Nov 15th and yet many sites consider Watch Dogs a launch day title - in fact, Amazon has a launch day bundle with a PS4 and Watch Dogs. I would wager a guess that Microsoft was waiting to announce a date so they could be certain to beat Sony to the punch. I'd be surprised if they didn't release before the 15th.

They cut their release regions from 22 countries to 13. I think if that says anything, they need all the time they can without giving Sony an advantage. An extra week of assembly and shipping to market isn't nothing, and the week later release isn't a big deal tactically IMO.

If they're going for the 15th or sooner, there's going to be a lot of XBox fans left standing in line IMO.
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I don't think it makes that much of a difference unless you can beat the competitor's release by at least a few months. Making a difference of a week, couple weeks, etc. That's nothing. I think you would need a 6 month head start to really make a difference. Consoles are a marathon. Not a sprint.
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My current prediction is that they will announce the release date tomorrow during the Gamescon keynote! (At least I really hope they do...)

Ummm... the keynote was this morning at 4am. Didn't really announce much of anything.
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Ummm... the keynote was this morning at 4am. Didn't really announce much of anything.

Are you sure? From my understanding the Gamescom Keynote is on the 21st. I just checked the time zones and the current time in Berlin is: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 at 10:31:39 PM CEST

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Phil will help kick off gamescom in the keynote at the opening ceremony on Aug. 21, supporting this year’s leading theme of the fair, “Next generation gaming”.

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So I think you are mistaking the private event MS was hosting for the Gamescom keynote! I look forward to the keynote tomorrow, which should be available for streaming???
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Maybe you're right. I though the private thing this morning was all they were doing. Hope we do get a date tomorrow then.

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I don't think it makes that much of a difference unless you can beat the competitor's release by at least a few months. Making a difference of a week, couple weeks, etc. That's nothing. I think you would need a 6 month head start to really make a difference. Consoles are a marathon. Not a sprint.

A month might be bragging rights, but it's still trivial IMO. Plus most of the big next gen games are slated for late Nov anyways. No real reason to launch early and only have 1-2 games attached to your system for weeks.
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Maybe you're right. I though the private thing this morning was all they were doing. Hope we do get a date tomorrow then.

Yeah, I thought the thing in the morning actually was the keynote. I just woke up and there was a ton of Xbox news.

If they're just waiting to react to Sony, then we should get a date really soon.

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Sonys got music and cross game party chat finally and MS is finally sucking up to Indys and allows you to do whatever you want with your purchased games.

Competition is a very good thing! Let's keep it up!

very true, competition is great for everyone!
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Keynote is typically the day before the floor opens, which was today.

I think people are confusing the Keynote and the smaller press only press conference also held this morning and wrapping the info up into one big event.
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A month might be bragging rights, but it's still trivial IMO. Plus most of the big next gen games are slated for late Nov anyways. No real reason to launch early and only have 1-2 games attached to your system for weeks.

yeah, agree. though there are a great number of day one launch titles. more than I expected.

but I bet Amazon and Gamestop were hoping for some time between current-gen title releases and next-gen releases. So that you buy the 360 copy of COD and then upgrade to the One copy. Same thing for any of the stat-based games like BF4, FIFA14, etc. If the releases are on top of each other, it makes no difference to the gamer unless then really want to double-dip on achievements. Most gamers rather would want the lead time in order to rank up and learn the game modes and maps. You could get a nice head start on the guy that starts off at ground zero on a next-gen console. Plus, you get to play games that entire time! smile.gif

Releasing earlier doesn't make that much more money for Amazon/Gamestop because of the supply constraints so whether you sell out in mid November or mid December, doesn't really matter.
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Keynote is typically the day before the floor opens, which was today.

I think people are confusing the Keynote and the smaller press only press conference also held this morning and wrapping the info up into one big event.
Yeah, the keynote is on the 21st and the floor opens to the public on the 22nd. See http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/en/gamescom/fuer_alle/termine_oeffnungszeiten/gamescom_termine.php

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yeah, agree. though there are a great number of day one launch titles. more than I expected.

but I bet Amazon and Gamestop were hoping for some time between current-gen title releases and next-gen releases. So that you buy the 360 copy of COD and then upgrade to the One copy. Same thing for any of the stat-based games like BF4, FIFA14, etc. If the releases are on top of each other, it makes no difference to the gamer unless then really want to double-dip on achievements. Most gamers rather would want the lead time in order to rank up and learn the game modes and maps. You could get a nice head start on the guy that starts off at ground zero on a next-gen console. Plus, you get to play games that entire time! smile.gif

Releasing earlier doesn't make that much more money for Amazon/Gamestop because of the supply constraints so whether you sell out in mid November or mid December, doesn't really matter.

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Yeah, the keynote is on the 21st and the floor opens to the public on the 22nd. See http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/en/gamescom/fuer_alle/termine_oeffnungszeiten/gamescom_termine.php

Must have got my intertubes crossed, thanks! I blame joystick...

So, release date tomorrow then!
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Must have got my intertubes crossed, thanks! I blame joystick...

So, release date tomorrow then!

With MS giving the keynote tomorrow, they have the opportunity to drop a few more bombs on Sony. But I'm hoping for at least the release date....

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Speaking of "reimagined games", I truly hope they remake PGR2. I'm not even planning on buying the X1, but that would get me on board. Actually, I don't want them to reimagine it, I want them to totally copy it.

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I am pretty sure this was the briefing Microsoft was talking about giving.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/microsoft-gamescom-2013-conference-6413265/
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With MS giving the keynote tomorrow, they have the opportunity to drop a few more bombs on Sony. But I'm hoping for at least the release date....

They should go all out and drop the #truthfacts

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quick question, i watched the titanfall vid. and i thought it was competitive MP only? it didn't seem like a MP video??
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quick question, i watched the titanfall vid. and i thought it was competitive MP only? it didn't seem like a MP video??

it was never directly stated that it was multiplayer only. what was said was that there was no story campaign which people interpreted as meaning multiplayer only.

it could very well be a bunch of co-op missions instead of a story campaign.
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it was never directly stated that it was multiplayer only. what was said was that there was no story campaign which people interpreted as meaning multiplayer only.

it could very well be a bunch of co-op missions instead of a story campaign.

ahhh that makes more sense.. thanks

man this is frustrating, not sure which console i will pay for MP, sony or ms.. it has been so long so i don't remember, but how far before release do the consoles show up in stores to demo? i really want to feel both controllers...

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yeah, agree. though there are a great number of day one launch titles. more than I expected.

but I bet Amazon and Gamestop were hoping for some time between current-gen title releases and next-gen releases. So that you buy the 360 copy of COD and then upgrade to the One copy. Same thing for any of the stat-based games like BF4, FIFA14, etc. If the releases are on top of each other, it makes no difference to the gamer unless then really want to double-dip on achievements. Most gamers rather would want the lead time in order to rank up and learn the game modes and maps. You could get a nice head start on the guy that starts off at ground zero on a next-gen console. Plus, you get to play games that entire time! smile.gif

Releasing earlier doesn't make that much more money for Amazon/Gamestop because of the supply constraints so whether you sell out in mid November or mid December, doesn't really matter.

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With MS giving the keynote tomorrow, they have the opportunity to drop a few more bombs on Sony. But I'm hoping for at least the release date....


MS could drop a MOAB on Sony by giving anyone who purchases the 360 version of COD, BF4, FIFA14 etc., etc., a code for a digital download of that game on the XB1. Save everyone the $10 and the hassle of returning the 360 version of the game.
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Anyone know what time this keynote is supposed to happen today? (USA time)

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Anyone know what time this keynote is supposed to happen today? (USA time)

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