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Unfortunately, non XB1 owners think the XB1 is everything BUT games.

Who's fault is that? MS's message has been all over the place. They change their minds with every opinion poll (or sales report). They have no vision and even if they get one, the system was designed by commitee and beyond ripping out Kinect, can't be changed. This generation is lost for them, they should be planning for the next while they ride this one out.

BTW the $399 XB1 SKU peaked at #26 on amazon, peaked. Meanwhile the PS4 Destiney SKU is at #6 and it's $450!
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Anyone get the email this morning stating that GTA5 coming to X1 and PS4 this fall?

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52261/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-Coming-this-Fall-to-PlayStation-4-Xbox?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=gtavng06092014
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Anyone get the email this morning stating that GTA5 coming to X1 and PS4 this fall?

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52261/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-Coming-this-Fall-to-PlayStation-4-Xbox?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=gtavng06092014


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Who's fault is that? MS's message has been all over the place. They change their minds with every opinion poll (or sales report). They have no vision and even if they get one, the system was designed by commitee and beyond ripping out Kinect, can't be changed. This generation is lost for them, they should be planning for the next while they ride this one out.

BTW the $399 XB1 SKU peaked at #26 on amazon, peaked. Meanwhile the PS4 Destiney SKU is at #6 and it's $450!

I guess that means MS will come out with an ugly looking white XBOne. To rival the ugly looking white PS4

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I guess that means MS will come out with an ugly looking white XBOne. To rival the ugly looking white PS4

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It's a launch team exclusive but if MS does come out with a white Xbox it would no doubt look like that. I think it looks rather sleek to be honest. I'd sell my mine to get a white one no question.
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If you have a wish list item make sure you check out the feedback site listed above.

A video explaining what they are trying to do with the site.

That is a great feature.

WTH wasn't it implemented in Jan 2013 for the X1?
WTH wasn't it implemented ten years ago by ever major corporation?
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That is a great feature.

WTH wasn't it implemented in Jan 2013 for the X1?
WTH wasn't it implemented ten years ago by ever major corporation?

Twitter and 50 million blogs were not around 10 years ago.

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Yeah, that's a really solid feature. This way they can quantify it directly. Plus it makes it much harder for them to ignore something consumers really want that they don't.

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Twitter and 50 million blogs were not around 10 years ago.

yeah but there were cool wooden suggestion boxes!

also i don't know why they had to lie in the video by saying "We love reading comments on reddit and connecting with people in the forums". They should have said "most of you people that comment on reddit and forums are immature douchebags and now we will have a low paid intern delete all your stupid comments before anyone in management will ever even look at them, thus saving us a lot of time" smile.gif
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yeah but there were cool wooden suggestion boxes!

also i don't know why they had to lie in the video by saying "We love reading comments on reddit and connecting with people in the forums". They should have said "most of you people that comment on reddit and forums are immature douchebags and now we will have a low paid intern delete all your stupid comments before anyone in management will ever even look at them, thus saving us a lot of time" smile.gif

For the same reason Sony gave that lame nod to reddit, neogaf, etc. when they were going over that lame letters to PSN section of their presentation. Companies love to tout how much street cred they have. It seems to work otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it.
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For the same reason Sony gave that lame nod to reddit, neogaf, etc. when they were going over that lame letters to PSN section of their presentation. Companies love to tout how much street cred they have. It seems to work otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it.

you do know my post was a joke/sarcastic?
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you do know my post was a joke/sarcastic?

Reported for joking in an Xbox thread.
Geez how many times am I going to report you?
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you do know my post was a joke/sarcastic?

Sarcasm sucks on teh internets.
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Who's fault is that? MS's message has been all over the place. They change their minds with every opinion poll (or sales report). They have no vision and even if they get one, the system was designed by commitee and beyond ripping out Kinect, can't be changed. This generation is lost for them, they should be planning for the next while they ride this one out.

BTW the $399 XB1 SKU peaked at #26 on amazon, peaked. Meanwhile the PS4 Destiney SKU is at #6 and it's $450!

They are fixing the problem. They have a new lead and he is turning things around. This is what people wanted. Would you rather they did not try to improve things? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you to a point, but I see nothing but good in that they have chosen this new direction. Is it too late? time will tell but there is no denying their weaker hardware might have been their first and biggest mistake.
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They are fixing the problem. They have a new lead and he is turning things around. This is what people wanted. Would you rather they did not try to improve things? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you to a point, but I see nothing but good in that they have chosen this new direction. Is it too late? time will tell but there is no denying their weaker hardware might have been their first and biggest mistake.

I agree, the more 180s they do the better, but don't expect the gamers to be fooled so easily.

The $399 SKU is down to #41 while the PS4 Destiny SKU is #3!

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I agree, the more 180s they do the better, but don't expect the gamers to be fooled so easily.

The $399 SKU is down to #41 while the PS4 Destiny SKU is #3!

What exactly does that mean? A product can be sold out for many days and still be in the top few numbers.

It also shows the Halo masterchief collection as number one. What does that mean? It doesn't necessarily mean that it will sell more than something that is listed lower.
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I take that Amazon sales data to mean that a purchase of a X1 without Kinect is a bad idea and people get it.

I didn't see the PS4 e3 conference because of the crash but I understand that Sony highlighted the importance of the camera/voice commands? True?

Hate to rehash this but you could have purchased a X1+Kinect+Titanfall/Forza for $10 cheaper than an PS4 when you factor in the free game. It's all good, everyone should join the party of owning all 3 current gen consoles...It will pay off eventually. PS4 is the only wildcard right now but 2015 will be here before we know it.
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I take that Amazon sales data to mean that a purchase of a X1 without Kinect is a bad idea and people get it.

I didn't see the PS4 e3 conference because of the crash but I understand that Sony highlighted the importance of the camera/voice commands? True?

Hate to rehash this but you could have purchased a X1+Kinect+Titanfall/Forza for $10 cheaper than an PS4 when you factor in the free game. It's all good, everyone should join the party of owning all 3 current gen consoles...It will pay off eventually. PS4 is the only wildcard right now but 2015 will be here before we know it.

the funny thing is they did talk about the camera, but it was more than just that, they talked a bunch about a stupid superhero TV show and other stuff that i could care less about, the funny thing is everything was flipped for me. at the reveal i was bored with MS conference because they talked about TV, etc.. and this time it was sony that was talking about stuff other than games...
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The $399 SKU is down to #41 while the PS4 Destiny SKU is #3!

Are all you purchases/decisions based on amazon sales rankings? rolleyes.gif
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I take that Amazon sales data to mean that a purchase of a X1 without Kinect is a bad idea and people get it.

Xbox One (w/o Kinect) is #38 (in Amazon Best Selling Video Game products); the Xbox One Titanfall Bundle (w/Kinect) is #50 and Xbox One w/Kinect is ranked #111. Among Xbox One Console Best Sellers the sans Kinect SKU is the most popular. It's not obvious to me that people have come to that conclusion.
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Are all you purchases/decisions based on amazon sales rankings? rolleyes.gif

No check the history. Dedicated and been at it for YEARS complaining and whining about something he constantly says he doesn't want. From last gen to this. The trolling is strong in that one.
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Are all you purchases/decisions based on amazon sales rankings? rolleyes.gif

No I was using Amazon sales lists to gauge demand, was that not obvious? Are you guys so sensitive that you can't have an adult conversation about XB1 demand for a new SKU during E3?

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No check the history. Dedicated and been at it for YEARS complaining and whining about something he constantly says he doesn't want. From last gen to this. The trolling is strong in that one.
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Actually to be fair (and honest) when anyone goes into the 'other' forum and gloats about their opposing product of choice it comes across poorly and things only go down hill from there.

Please let's not fire this up again, I stopped posting for a bit due to this garbage, leave this nonsense to the other 'immature' websites (of which there are plenty).

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Phil Spencer talking about stuff other than games at E3.
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Thanks. That was some good info.

Summary anywhere?

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I just watched/listened to the video. No idea if there is a summary of it anywhere. I would have to go through and take notes.

HE did mention how they were surprised how much the BD player is getting used. And that 3D BD is just not a higher priority.


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So destiny will be 1080p 30fps because of the kinect changes. That's good news.
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