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I believe both of those AVRs allow you to customize the sources...it sounds like you have the assignments different than what you would like. For example, on the 3808 say you turn the source select knob to "DVD" (or whatever you have changed the name to in the menu) it will use whatever video and audio connection you tell it to in the menu. You could have DVD use the HDMI 2 connection and nothing else...or you could have DVD use the component 1 for video and optical 2 for audio...it is up to you.
That is correct in that they can be customized. I know with mine I did not change any of my settings just unplugged one set of cables from game system and put the new one into the existing cables. In theory it should have been fine, but that was not the case. I am not sure if @ParityBit went into the settings and changed anything or not.

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That is correct in that they can be customized. I know with mine I did not change any of my settings just unplugged one set of cables from game system and put the new one into the existing cables. In theory it should have been fine, but that was not the case. I am not sure if @ParityBit went into the settings and changed anything or not.

I did not change anything. I kind of assumed I could ignore what the said was "game", vs DVD etc and just plug whatever component into that HDMI slot. I figure it has to be a configuration issue because I see the image from my Xbox flash on the screen before loosing signal. It also works fine with only one HDMI out to the TV, and if I plug the system directly into the TV.

One thing I did try was set the Xbox to not auto detect. I set it to HDMI, 1080p and 30 bit color. I was able to see the Xbox fine! But once I flipped to FIOS and back to the Xbox, it was doing the same thing (saw the signal for a second and then lost it).
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I did not change anything. I kind of assumed I could ignore what the said was "game", vs DVD etc and just plug whatever component into that HDMI slot. I figure it has to be a configuration issue because I see the image from my Xbox flash on the screen before loosing signal. It also works fine with only one HDMI out to the TV, and if I plug the system directly into the TV.

One thing I did try was set the Xbox to not auto detect. I set it to HDMI, 1080p and 30 bit color. I was able to see the Xbox fine! But once I flipped to FIOS and back to the Xbox, it was doing the same thing (saw the signal for a second and then lost it).
Try swapping out the HDMI cable...maybe it is a handshake issue.

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Was waiting on the sideline to see which console will do 3D & 4k. Struggling to decide between XB1 & PS4. Now that 3D is enabled on both I am wondering which will enable 4k video in future. Does XB1 have any issues with HD audio with 3D bluray playback? Also does XB1 have video playback through USB?

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Was waiting on the sideline to see which console will do 3D & 4k. Struggling to decide between XB1 & PS4. Now that 3D is enabled on both I am wondering which will enable 4k video in future. Does XB1 have any issues with HD audio with 3D bluray playback? Also does XB1 have video playback through USB?
The Xbox One decodes the HD audio contained on BD-ROMs just fine and sends it to the AVR for playback. It will not bit-stream the HD audio to your AVR for decoding, but you get the same audio when the Xbox One decodes so no big deal (that is... if you trust the X1 to decode it correctly). Personally, I would rather use a unit designed for BD-ROMs and since blu-ray players are relatively inexpensive...I just use that for my shiny discs.

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Try swapping out the HDMI cable...maybe it is a handshake issue.
This is something I was actually wondering. I have 6 mix matched cables, one from each component to the AVR and two from the AVR to the TV. One of which has the network cable for the ARC.

I read the cables should not matter at all .... but could they? I do not know.
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The Xbox One decodes the HD audio contained on BD-ROMs just fine and sends it to the AVR for playback. It will not bit-stream the HD audio to your AVR for decoding, but you get the same audio when the Xbox One decodes so no big deal (that is... if you trust the X1 to decode it correctly). Personally, I would rather use a unit designed for BD-ROMs and since blu-ray players are relatively inexpensive...I just use that for my shiny discs.
I used to completely agree with that idea when it game to game console drives. Last gen especially, no way would I risk killing the DD playing media. Both consoles were also mediocre DVD players at best.

My stance is changing with this generation though. Both consoles offer playback on par with a lower mid-tier BR player, so I don't really feel I get any A/V advantage going the dedicated hardware route versus what I would likely buy as a standalone unit. I also hate clutter in the AV rack as I mentioned before so a dedicated BR player would really have to justify it's existence in my HT space.

The other thing that has me switching my stance is I find myself buying most of my games digitally now. In fact, all of the games I have for XB1 so far are digital. So if I don't use or need the BR drive to play games, why wouldn't I use it for playing movies?

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I am trying to avoid too many units in the rack therefore looking at a game console that will also serve as BD player including 3D playback with proper HD audio bitstream output in 3D mode as well as be futureproof with 4k streaming.

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Another consideration is heat and noise. The XB1 is very cool and quiet...especially compared to the competing platform.
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I am trying to avoid too many units in the rack therefore looking at a game console that will also serve as BD player including 3D playback with proper HD audio bitstream output in 3D mode as well as be futureproof with 4k streaming.
I'll check if my PS4 bitstreams while playing 3D. Not sure if either console is going to give you 4k streaming though :/

I think both manufacturers have claimed '4k support', but whether or not that is anything beyond displaying a 4K res photo or static image is speculation at this point. Given the hardware specs on both units, native 4k support for games and/or media is not likely.

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Polygon has nice writeup of the upcoming changes to Xbox One NFL App.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/3/5960...-sunday-ticket
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White console enclosures don't look good to me at all. I want the things in my AV cabinet to be dark and more or less invisible in a dark room.
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This is something I was actually wondering. I have 6 mix matched cables, one from each component to the AVR and two from the AVR to the TV. One of which has the network cable for the ARC.

I read the cables should not matter at all .... but could they? I do not know.
The different HDMI port on the Receiver used to impact the 360 as well. As for the cables, I have my DVR going into the XB1. Initially I had a lot of handshake issues, TV not playing etc. I moved the cables around, i.e. took the one that originally went into the XB1 and swapped it with the one that went into my receiver. I haven't had an issue since. Fickle things these cables.
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The Starz Play app was released for Xbox One.

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The Starz Play app was released for Xbox One.

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Damn I just started watching Power on the Xbox 360 on Starz. Thanks for the update.

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Honestly I'll pass on the white electronics. Looks great in pics and when you first crack it open but after a while once it starts yellowing then not so nice.

I agree that I'm not into the white electronics, but I'm not sure about the yellowing. I had my 360 for many years and it never turned yellow. Even my controllers never turned yellow. Unless you smoke like a chimney at home then I see it turning yellow lol.

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I agree that I'm not into the white electronics, but I'm not sure about the yellowing. I had my 360 for many years and it never turned yellow. Even my controllers never turned yellow. Unless you smoke like a chimney at home then I see it turning yellow lol.
I've seen white electronics discolor over time in non-smoking homes as well as smoking. It's just what they do. One may not observe it as it would be gradual not just one day you wake up and bam. But the more observant person will. All you would need to do is put it next to a brand new unit and the difference will be obvious.
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Was waiting on the sideline to see which console will do 3D & 4k. Struggling to decide between XB1 & PS4. Now that 3D is enabled on both I am wondering which will enable 4k video in future. Does XB1 have any issues with HD audio with 3D bluray playback? Also does XB1 have video playback through USB?
Not sure about USB video playback but I just tried a 3D bluray and no joy? I don't see an app update or system update available? When can I watch the Kaiju rise from the sea in 3D?
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What is more intensive for 4k(or video in general): video playback or recording?
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Not sure about USB video playback but I just tried a 3D bluray and no joy? I don't see an app update or system update available? When can I watch the Kaiju rise from the sea in 3D?
I don't think the official August update enabling 3D blu-ray playback has landed yet. Only those in the preview program have the ability to watch such movies.
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I don't think the official August update enabling 3D blu-ray playback has landed yet. Only those in the preview program have the ability to watch such movies.
Yup. Only preview members at the moment.
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Xbox digital tuner will be for sale for Europe only

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Xbox digital tuner will be for sale for Europe only

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I wonder if they will eventually release a USB tuner in the US?

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I wonder if they will eventually release a USB tuner in the US?

Hopefully CableCard too. Or at the very least, enable an update to work with network based CableCard tuners such as the HDHomerun.

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Hopefully CableCard too. Or at the very least, enable an update to work with network based CableCard tuners such as the HDHomerun.
To be honest since I had set up my Uverse to work with the Xbox I found out it was more limiting than I cared for. Too many of the actual features of the Uverse box were not available through the Xbox controller and frankly I like the menu on my Uverse box better. It was a cool idea but unless they can have you actually gain access to each and every feature of the service you are piping through it isn't worth it to me. For those that just want to gain access to the channels and keep it simple it's a pretty neat solution.
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To be honest since I had set up my Uverse to work with the Xbox I found out it was more limiting than I cared for. Too many of the actual features of the Uverse box were not available through the Xbox controller and frankly I like the menu on my Uverse box better. It was a cool idea but unless they can have you actually gain access to each and every feature of the service you are piping through it isn't worth it to me. For those that just want to gain access to the channels and keep it simple it's a pretty neat solution.

Well, I think those of us who are already using CableCard might be completely okay with that. The only issue might be lack of DVR compared to (for example) a Windows 8 PC running Media Center. Honestly, I still feel like the Xbox should've been planned out for this sort of stuff from the start, but obviously they had so many other issues to deal with before launch anyway.

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Well, I think those of us who are already using CableCard might be completely okay with that. The only issue might be lack of DVR compared to (for example) a Windows 8 PC running Media Center. Honestly, I still feel like the Xbox should've been planned out for this sort of stuff from the start, but obviously they had so many other issues to deal with before launch anyway.
Yeah you're right. I guess if I was using just cable with no box then it'd be a pretty decent alternative although like you point out the lack of DVR functionality is an oversight. Maybe a future update will add it?
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Yeah you're right. I guess if I was using just cable with no box then it'd be a pretty decent alternative although like you point out the lack of DVR functionality is an oversight. Maybe a future update will add it?
I notice in the description it says ability to "Pause Live TV'. If you ask me that's just a jump,skip and a hop away from DVR functionality.

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This didn't take long...if you want to vote to bring the digital tuner to the US here is the user feedback thread.

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251610-live-tv

And here is the option to vote for Cable Card support

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/251...lecard-support
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