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Just Cause 3 announced for the Xbox One coming in 2015

http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/11/71...-xbox-one-2015
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Sorry for the bump, but it looked like SPID was the last poster, but nothing shows up. So SPID, if you "possibly" answered my questions, the post didn't come through.
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You can pre-order/pre-load GTA V on the Xbox One Store.
I'm curious as to how the First Person mode will feel. Should give the game a new feel that is for sure. A little mad for not waiting until it released on the X1 since my 360 version had a horrible time reading my disk and that is even with using a USB stick to help load the game!

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Not waiting for the PC version?

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Just Cause 3 announced for the Xbox One coming in 2015

http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/11/71...-xbox-one-2015
I might double dip and get this for my PC and the One. Had a blast with the mods on the PC for JC2.

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Ok sorry to bust up the bickering but I have a few more questions on the sharing of digital downloads since I'm still a little confused. So essentially if I want to share my games with my brother, i need to do the following:
1.) Setup his XBOX as my home machine
2.) He can then play those games without me being logged into that machine?
3.) Is he able to go in and download any games I've got digitally himself or does it require me to sign in to download?
4.) Do I have to manually download games now that I prepurchase on my machine or can I setup it to auto download on mine as well?
5.) Can you swap back home machines as many times as you like or you limited?
1 yes
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3 Once you set the console as my home and log in for that first time those digital games can be seen as "ready to install" in the My games & apps section to the far right. Any new games can automatically download that is punched from his account and vice versa as long as the system is setup for auto download.
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5 yes no limitations. This is what was kept from the original plan. Phil stated in interviews since that they will be working more to open up new ways to share.

Also just some more info since I have EA access my other machine doesn't require the app so any games in EA access can be downloaded to the Home machine if you or your brother our members. So only one of you can be signed up for EA access.
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For the person that claimed you'd only gain by routing your tv signal through your XB1's HDMI input, I don't watch much cable tv with commercials since my cable box rarely leaves Turner Classic Movies which airs classic movies uncut without interruptions. But with a DVR, I don't know why anyone would want to route their tv signal through their XB1 and have to have it on just to watch television.

I could see if you were stuck with commercials, but not when they're 5 second breaks with the fast forward button. I record everything I watch with commercials in them like Formula One telecast just so I can skip such junk that I don't want to see.

I wouldn't gain anything in making it easy to go back and forth. Just would be unnecessary wear & tear on an expensive game console.

What would I gain?
What difference does it make as far as wear & tear? The machine works the same regardless what you are doing. It was actually designed to be on 24/7. In our household all three get utilized consistently. I have a DVR but what mostly gets played on it is either Live Tv or On Demand since it is already available to watch. Recording really is used now as a back up to what might be removed from On Demand.

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1 yes
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3 Once you set the console as my home and log in for that first time those digital games can be seen as "ready to install" in the My games & apps section to the far right. Any new games can automatically download that is punched from his account and vice versa as long as the system is setup for auto download.
4 back at 3
5 yes no limitations. This is what was kept from the original plan. Phil stated in interviews since that they will be working more to open up new ways to share.

Also just some more info since I have EA access my other machine doesn't require the app so any games in EA access can be downloaded to the Home machine if you or your brother our members. So only one of you can be signed up for EA access.

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What difference does it make as far as wear & tear? The machine works the same regardless what you are doing. It was actually designed to be on 24/7.
That's incorrect, Xbox One barely is using any power when turned off. And even in standby, it's a mere fraction of what it's using when actually being utilized.



And this obviously means that very little heat will be produced and the internal hard drive will be idle.

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yeah, going to the beach isn't free with all the municipal fees and taxes. neither is the air we breathe because of the clean air act and regulations on the industries etc etc... nothing is free i guess.
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That's incorrect, Xbox One barely is using any power when turned off. And even in standby, it's a mere fraction of what it's using when actually being utilized.

And this obviously means that very little heat will be produced and the internal hard drive will be idle.

Given that it take 2 minutes to boot from its "Power Saver" state and 10 seconds to start from "Connect Standby", most people will leave it in the latter state, drawing 18W (I've read others quote that as 15W--in either case it's more power than my TiVo draws when recording all four tuners and streaming Netflix simultaneously). That's why that ExtremeTech article that you got that chart from estimates that yearly power consumption by Xbox One will far exceed power usage by PS4, even though PS4 draws more power when in use. Any use of it to watch TV just exacerbates that.

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Given that it take 2 minutes to boot from its "Power Saver" state and 10 seconds to start from "Connect Standby",
2 minutes from a cold boot is a severe exaggeration. unless you're updating the firmware of course
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you would think... some here would argue that it's not free. it takes electricity to run the device that you're typing on to generate that post. it takes ATP to have the energy to type and think which is paid for by the food and drinks we buy.
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2 minutes from a cold boot is a severe exaggeration. unless you're updating the firmware of course

Hmmm. It seems to have gotten faster, about 1 minute. In the past I timed it multiple times at over 1 minute 45. Still 1 minutes vs 10 seconds and auto update (not to mention "Xbox On", which I do not use) makes it probable that most people will leave it in "Quick Start" mode.

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I seem to be buying games in my sleep (or I'm just experiencing early onset senility ). I bought ACU and its season pass on the 5th; I meant to buy it eventually but was in no hurry. Must have been some significant pre-order bonus that spurred me to buy now and I just forgot. They didn't download it until the 11th and a notification popped up telling me that it was ready to start.

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It's not power cost that would worry me.

But it doesn't take an electrical engineering degree to realize that when it's drawing 90 watts or so just because I'm watching tv, that I'd be wearing it out unnecessarily if I'm not gaining any advantages in my eyes from having it on simultaneously.

I'm either playing a game or watching a tv. When I want to do both, it's with a handheld or off-screen play on the Wii U while half listening to something on the tv in the background like Time Warner Cable's music channels. I'd never take advantage of snap, or whatever they call it when you can flip back and forth between live tv and a videogame.

If someone gains a great benefit from that, I can see the appeal although I wonder just what sort of programming they're watching or videogame that they're playing where they find the experience superior if they can easily flip flop every couple of minutes.

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It's not power cost that would worry me.

But it doesn't take an electrical engineering degree to realize that when it's drawing 90 watts or so just because I'm watching tv, that I'd be wearing it out unnecessarily if I'm not gaining any advantages in my eyes from having it on simultaneously.

I'm either playing a game or watching a tv. When I want to do both, it's with a handheld or off-screen play on the Wii U while half listening to something on the tv in the background like Time Warner Cable's music channels. I'd never take advantage of snap, or whatever they call it when you can flip back and forth between live tv and a videogame.

If someone gains a great benefit from that, I can see the appeal although I wonder just what sort of programming they're watching or videogame that they're playing where they find the experience superior if they can easily flip flop every couple of minutes.

Does it really burn 90 watts while watching TV? That seems excessive for something that should barely be using the CPU.

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Some people also like voice control of the TV. Being able to turn it on and change channels while juggling a squirming infant or any other thing that takes two hands is a convenience. I, however, have no such multi-tasking problems. When I'm playing a game I'm playing a game and I don't want to concurrently watch video of any kind in a Snap (though there are definitely some highly dialog oriented TV dramas that I tend to play puzzle games on my tablet while "watching").

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Does it really burn 90 watts while watching TV? That seems excessive for something that should barely be using the CPU.
Navigation and streaming are both up there and neither is terribly resource intensive, so I imagine it's not too far off the mark.

Edit: 72 watts appears to be its power usage when just serving as an HDMI pass through and sitting there idle waiting to be snapped back to.

Having that on, for no good reason, is definitely unnecessarily shortening the life of the system (Not to mention will add a few dollars to my power bill).

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10 million units shipped to retailers. Still 3.5 behind Sony but a huge increase and positive holiday momentum.
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Navigation and streaming are both up there and neither is terribly resource intensive, so I imagine it's not too far off the mark.

Edit: 72 watts appears to be its power usage when just serving as an HDMI pass through and sitting there idle waiting to be snapped back to.

Having that on, for no good reason, is definitely unnecessarily shortening the life of the system (Not to mention will add a few dollars to my power bill).
Shortening the life? Probably not. In the past I've had PCs on 24/7 for years without issues.
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Shortening the life? Probably not. In the past I've had PCs on 24/7 for years without issues.
Same.
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Shortening the life? Probably not. In the past I've had PCs on 24/7 for years without issues.
Which was my point about "wear & tear" Had nothing to do about break down of what power is used based on the task. Simply these machines were designed to be used 24/7 if you wanted to just like a computer.

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This holiday season is going to be very telling. I'm not seeing any great deals on the PS4 for black Friday while there's nothing but hot deals for the One. Right now the Xbox One is more "mom's pocketbook" friendly. A complete role-reversal from this time last year. Add to that when speaking with different people and reading here and there, the PS4 doesn't really seem to have that "it" game right now. The resolution revolution seems to have died out (I still think people totally missed the whole point, I'd rather have a fantastic effects rich experience at 720p than a barely making it sacrificing stuff 1080p one) It'll be interesting to see what numbers look like in January.

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This holiday season is going to be very telling. I'm not seeing any great deals on the PS4 for black Friday while there's nothing but hot deals for the One. Right now the Xbox One is more "mom's pocketbook" friendly. A complete role-reversal from this time last year. Add to that when speaking with different people and reading here and there, the PS4 doesn't really seem to have that "it" game right now. The resolution revolution seems to have died out (I still think people totally missed the whole point, I'd rather have a fantastic effects rich experience at 720p than a barely making it sacrificing stuff 1080p one) It'll be interesting to see what numbers look like in January.

I'm thinking Xbox is going to crush it this year, wouldn't be surprised to see them dead even or ahead when the dust settles. I think the kind of gamer that really cares about resolution is probably an early adopter that already bought their PS4 or has graduated from consoles entirely, but $349 with a game is a lot more palatable than $399 without or $499 with a silly camera.

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$349 with a game is a lot more palatable than $399 without or $499 with a silly camera.
I've seen a few PS4 bundles w/ Last of Us and GTA V for $399 coming up later this month. Pretty good deal if you want those games (and can find one in stock).

Still the Walmart and Target Xbox One at $329+game+gift card is such a great deal. Even now like you said $349 w/ a game is a much better value proposition to someone who doesnt care to be an early adopter (like me).

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Bundling a next gen console with last gen games is kinda silly though.
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Phil Spencer may be in for one helluva bonus. If Msoft is still profiting on the system after the price drops and decoupling of Kinect he's going to look like a savior in the organization.

I really hope they redo the dashboard. With so many Kinectless units being sold they need to shift the design to be less motion/voice controlled based.

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I really hope they redo the dashboard. With so many Kinectless units being sold they need to shift the design to be less motion/voice controlled based.
Huh? This isn't the case whatsoever.
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