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Way to go Microsoft! They are back to pushing tech forward instead of following the leader, and focusing on a gaming-first console.

Really looking forward to Scorpio.
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Still waiting for how much it will cost.

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Still waiting for how much it will cost.
I recall paying $600 for a launch model $60GB PS3 that I played very few games on . (I already owned a 360 and there were almost no exclusives which interested me, just as there are only a couple PS4 exclusives which interest me now, why I haven't bought one of those).

Could I be less willing to pay as much for Scorpio, which I will constantly use? Hopefully it'll cost less but I'm sure I'll put up whatever it does cost (which'll probably be less than a top-of-the-line gaming graphics card).

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Still waiting for how much it will cost.
Probably won't find out for another couple months - mid June at E3, maybe?

I still don't see how they could mass produce this custom tech for under $500, and going over moves it out of many people's spending comfort zone.

I'm still bracing for a single SKU, 1TB with no pack-ins, @ $499. Anything less will be a gift from MS, any more we'll just have to grin and bear it.
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Still waiting for how much it will cost.
Let's face reality. We're all buying it, regardless LOL.

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Let's face reality. We're all buying it, regardless LOL.
You're probably right.
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I am definitely going to wait for a good deal. I have such a large backlog as it is .
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This new hardware will supposedly make that backlog of titles look and play better.

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This new hardware will supposedly make that backlog of titles look and play better.
That's how I have been reading it as well. Seems like this is the system that should have come out first!

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You mean instead of Xbone S? Xbone S was shrewd move; the tech in Scorpio wasn't ready and if the S hadn't been there PS4 Pro would have killed them. A 4K-capable Xbox One with a built-in UHD BDP was a very good stop-gap. I don't begrudge their launching something vastly superior 16 months later.
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You mean instead of Xbone S? Xbone S was shrewd move; the tech in Scorpio wasn't ready and if the S hadn't been there PS4 Pro would have killed them. A 4K-capable Xbox One with a built-in UHD BDP was a very good stop-gap. I don't begrudge their launching something vastly superior 16 months later.
I think the Scropio should have been the system from the very beginning. I like my Xbox One, but now seeing what the Scorpio can do just makes me Spencer was running the show beforehand. We may have had a better system from the get go. Either way if the price is not high it's still not a bad deal considering it's 4 years later.

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I think the Scropio should have been the system from the very beginning. I like my Xbox One, but now seeing what the Scorpio can do just makes me Spencer was running the show beforehand. We may have had a better system from the get go. Either way if the price is not high it's still not a bad deal considering it's 4 years later.
I don't think Spencer is the only reason scorpio exist. Tech and cost are a huge factor and the plan changed from what was revealed in 2013. I don't think anything would be much different with how things went if Spencer was head of Xbox. He has to answer to bosses and shareholders as well. What's happening now is no different then how things went from Wii to Wii U to Switch and PS3 to PS4. The ups and downs we see from those systems are the same ups and downs Xbox is going through. They all had to answer to bosses and shareholders and now they are going a different route learning from mistakes made along the way.

Scorpio exist because of what's happened along with software and tech catching up to their vision.
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True to a point, but I think he would have pushed for some stronger specs with the Xbox one. The GPU is weak and could have been bigger.

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it's all a guessing game. When Sony and Microsoft shop companies like Intel, IBM, and AMD for chipsets, GPUs, and CPUs, these companies have roadmaps for all their products and what technology will be available when.

Microsoft and Sony know when they want to release their consoles and choose the appropriate tech that fits that timeframe. And they all have a sense of how much they want the console to cost so consoles tend to have the same prices. And this is why consoles tend to have the same tech.

It's just that there are breaking point decisions that change the fates. Like how Microsoft wanted to go with 256 GB with the 360 but Epic Games said this is what a game will look like with 256 GB and this is what a game will look like with 512 GB. And that's how the 360 ended up with 512 GB of RAM.

And remember the PS4 was going to have less RAM but it's strongly rumored that it was bumped up at a very late hour when they found out the Xbox One would have 8 GB of RAM. And Microsoft gambled that GDDR5 was going to remain cost-prohibitive and went with the safer pricing on DDR3 whereas Sony gambled that GDDR5 pricing would drop which it did. Microsoft had to factor in the cost of Kinect and that cost comes from the budget. So Sony didn't have to worry about a Kinect in their budget and used that part of the budget toward a higher end chipset from AMD (Pitcairn versus Bonaire). So you make decisions and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

If you look at it from their perspective back then, their decisions didn't seem so bad then. Microsoft's most important markets have always been the US and UK because those markets spend the most money. The 360 dominated those markets and so they thought that they could go all in on the "One" concept. Have a device that is the center of the entertainment. They thought that all 360 customers would become One customers. Lock in. Just like with Apple. iPod owners because iPhone owners. And iPhone owners almost always remain iPhone owners.

But the thing with Apple is their customer base is different. They are not stat heavy. iPhone never had the best hardware. But they had great hardware with a great software ecosystem. Gamers are macho. It's hard for them to accept a machine viewed as inferior. They spent hundreds of dollars on consoles and games and want to feel vindicated that they made the best purchase. And they need to convince their friends what the best purchase is and then it becomes a mob mentality.
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Anyone hear run their One S through a 2016 Denon AVR?

I recently upgraded to a 4K display (Sony A1E). If I enable 4K and HDR on the Xbox and run my Xbox One S through my X6300H, the signal drops over and over again...I get a picture...then nothing...then a picture...then nothing. If I bypass the 6300H, everything works honkey-dorey. Is there a setting I am missing in the 6300H?

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Anyone hear run their One S through a 2016 Denon AVR?

I recently upgraded to a 4K display (Sony A1E). If I enable 4K and HDR on the Xbox and run my Xbox One S through my X6300H, the signal drops over and over again...I get a picture...then nothing...then a picture...then nothing. If I bypass the 6300H, everything works honkey-dorey. Is there a setting I am missing in the 6300H?
Could be bandwidth, could be handshaking.

Do you have 6 foot certified 18Gb/s cables running to the Denon and TV? Does the Denon have different HDMI pass-through modes?

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Could be bandwidth, could be handshaking.

Do you have 6 foot certified 18Gb/s cables running to the Denon and TV? Does the Denon have different HDMI pass-through modes?
I think it is the cables. They are 18gbps but after reading up on them numerous people are having similar issues. I have ordered some different cables.

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What are the settings needed if I want the Xbox One S to output a game's native resolution (1080p>1080p, 4k>4k)? Will the settings be the same for movies played via the Blu-Ray app?

I am afraid that if a set up my Xbox One S as 4K/HDR-ready it will upscale and output everything to 4K...which I guess is not a big deal if it does a good job doing so.

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What are the settings needed if I want the Xbox One S to output a game's native resolution (1080p>1080p, 4k>4k)? Will the settings be the same for movies played via the Blu-Ray app?

I am afraid that if a set up my Xbox One S as 4K/HDR-ready it will upscale and output everything to 4K...which I guess is not a big deal if it does a good job doing so.

Thoughts?
You do realize that no matter what you change the native resolution of the display is 4k so it will be in 4k? If your setting the resolution any less than 4k then no real point of having a XB1 S.

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You do realize that no matter what you change the native resolution of the display is 4k so it will be in 4k? If your setting the resolution any less than 4k then no real point of having a XB1 S.
In the case of movies played via the Blu-Ray app...what if my display upscales better than the One S? I would want the Xbox to output the movie's native resolution. Maybe I am missing something...

EDIT: I think this is what I was looking for- http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/4k-on-xbox-one-s

"You don't have to set your console resolution to 4K to play 4K content. You can set your console to another resolution, such as 1080p, and when a game or app requires 4K (and your TV supports the 4K mode it wants), it'll automatically switch to 4K. This is good if you want to play 1080p content in its native resolution, but also take advantage of the 4K resolution when playing 4K content."

For games and input lag it is probably best to have the Xbox upscale and output 4k.

It would be nice if they had separate settings for movies and games.
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New preview update roll out? Just turned on the Xbox to see it updating. Seems like a big one since it's installing slow.

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Recently my Xbox one (fat model, not slim) has been turning on by itself from energy saving mode and remaining on until I turn it off. I think it used to happen in the past too but much more rarely.

Also, is it true that Xbox recommends plugging in the power brick directly into wall outlet, not surge protector? I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the noise the power brick makes in instant on mode or any sluggishness at times.
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Recently my Xbox one (fat model, not slim) has been turning on by itself from energy saving mode and remaining on until I turn it off. I think it used to happen in the past too but much more rarely.

Also, is it true that Xbox recommends plugging in the power brick directly into wall outlet, not surge protector? I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the noise the power brick makes in instant on mode or any sluggishness at times.
If in doubt, you can reset the console back to factory. I think it now defaults to a newer Windows 10 dashboard versus the original Windows 8 dashboard (though you will still have to update).

Where did you read that they recommend connecting directly to the wall outlet?
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Recently my Xbox one (fat model, not slim) has been turning on by itself from energy saving mode and remaining on until I turn it off. I think it used to happen in the past too but much more rarely.

Also, is it true that Xbox recommends plugging in the power brick directly into wall outlet, not surge protector? I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the noise the power brick makes in instant on mode or any sluggishness at times.
If in doubt, you can reset the console back to factory. I think it now defaults to a newer Windows 10 dashboard versus the original Windows 8 dashboard (though you will still have to update).

Where did you read that they recommend connecting directly to the wall outlet?
Does the reset clear the hard drive?

Here's the link for psu directions:

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-...t-power-supply
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Does the reset clear the hard drive?

Here's the link for psu directions:

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Yes, the reset clears everything. You can temporarily move your games to an external hard drive if you don't want to redownload them.

And that PSU thing I think is a legal vestige from the days when people used to plug everything into a power strip and then when they wanted to turn off the devices, they hit the power button on the power strip. Which of course is bad in this modern day when the TV, AV devices, consoles, PCs, etc. require at least some electricity in their low power states.

I remember an old guy had one of these under his CRT monitor:



so he put his computer to sleep, then hit the power button on the surge protector to turn the whole thing off. and when he wanted to use the computer again, he would hit the power button. and then wonder why his computer did a disk scan every time during bootup.
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Here's the link for psu directions:

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Yes, the reset clears everything. You can temporarily move your games to an external hard drive if you don't want to redownload them.

And that PSU thing I think is a legal vestige from the days when people used to plug everything into a power strip and then when they wanted to turn off the devices, they hit the power button on the power strip. Which of course is bad in this modern day when the TV, AV devices, consoles, PCs, etc. require at least some electricity in their low power states.

I remember an old guy had one of these under his CRT monitor:



so he put his computer to sleep, then hit the power button on the surge protector to turn the whole thing off. and when he wanted to use the computer again, he would hit the power button. and then wonder why his computer did a disk scan every time during bootup.
Not sure if the reset is worth the trouble then.
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