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Been looking online at all the different types of drives as well as manufacturers and models for an external drive for my One, mostly looking to move all of my games and files to this drive and leave the internal unused or possibly for recorded games and such. I have looked at several SSDs but the price for a 1tb unit is quite high. I have also taken a hard look at the Seagate backup plus fast 4tb, which as I understand it is two 2tb drives in a raid 0 setup. I am not averse to, and actually was leaning towards doing a raid 0 setup, as I am not particularly worried about data loss in this application, however I am somewhat of a neophyte in the data storage world and would need some pointers and suggestions from the kind folks here. So basically any recommendations or tips on this topic, with my only real specification being 1 to 4 TBs in size, would be greatly appreciated.
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From the preview forums the best bang for your buck is getting a couple 7200 drives in a raid 0 setup. You get the benefit of larger drives, cheaper than ssd and very close in performance to ssd.
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Do you have any suggestions? I don't know what brands are good and reliable.

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My 1 TB WD 'My Passport Ultra' seems to be working swimmingly.

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My 2tb play book is working great.
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My Crucial M500 SSDs, in Vantec USB 3.0 enclosures, have been working great so far with each of my XBOnes. Load times are so much faster now. Everything starts noticeably faster than when I had the apps and games stored on the internal drive.

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I went with a Samsung SSD drive. I do not expect to have much more than 500G lying around on my HDD. I moved all my titles to the SSD and left my sons on the HDD. Every title tested was faster to load, but Watch Dogs is still insane and I imagine Ryse would be as well.

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Hmm that's interesting I would think that any game would be quicker to load on an SSD especially, but I am really curious if anyone knows much about hybrid drives for this application. I have not seen one word online about them used for an Xbox one.
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Ryse is definitely faster loading from an SSD. Ryse and Dead Rising 3 both load much, much faster from an external SSD than from the internal drive. At least that has been the case with both of my XBOnes.

I can't see a hybrid drive making a big difference since they don't have very much flash storage. 8GB of flash storage isn't much when a game is 15GB to 30GB in size. The flash storage on the Hybrid drives works to increase the speed of files you use alot. So smaller files it would work for. But I can't see it doing alot to decrease the load time of a large game.

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Will this one work?
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Will this one work?
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yes I have a 2tb my book.
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Yup. using a 4TB version.
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i just purchased a 3tb my book and tried connecting it to my one and it said that i must ply in a 3.0 usb did i do something wrong?

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i just purchased a 3tb my book and tried connecting it to my one and it said that i must ply in a 3.0 usb did i do something wrong?

I had the same thing happen, so I tried the top USB port on the back and it worked... did you try both?
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All three USB 3.0 ports should work the same shoudn't they? Or has MS said there is a difference?

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I thought they would all be the same, but I could not get mine to work on the bottom usb port, it sees it just fine, but gives the same error message about USB 3.0. Moved it up one port and it worked fine...
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I had been looking for tests and info on this as I'm ready to pick up a drive for my Xbox.

Seems like testing suggests solid boosts for using external drives but that ssds, 7200 rpm drives, and raid 0 arrays are getting similar results. I read that most usb enclosures have chipsets that limit throughput especially for ssds.

I came across this enclosure though. The VANTEC NexStar 6G NST-266S3. It was tested on Tweaktown with an ssd where they got 450 MBps read and 430 MBps write. This may open up the performance results on the Xbox considerably.

Only downside to ssd of course is size for the money. I'm not interested in dropping $400+ on a 1TB. $220 for a 512GB is easier to take, but it sucks to not get a size boost over the stock drive when games are so big now.

I was also looking at the Seagate Backup Plus Fast. That's 4TB for same price as a 512GB SSD plus enclosure. It gets ~225 MBps speed. Still much faster than the internal, but half of what that SSD and enclosure may be able to do if the Xbox lets it get that full 440 MBps speed.

I only want a bus powered drive as well so that limits the choices.

Lastly, the new Crucial MX100 series would be the SSD of choice. There's no 1TB model yet though.
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I had been looking for tests and info on this as I'm ready to pick up a drive for my Xbox.

Seems like testing suggests solid boosts for using external drives but that ssds, 7200 rpm drives, and raid 0 arrays are getting similar results. I read that most usb enclosures have chipsets that limit throughput especially for ssds.

I came across this enclosure though. The VANTEC NexStar 6G NST-266S3. It was tested on Tweaktown with an ssd where they got 450 MBps read and 430 MBps write. This may open up the performance results on the Xbox considerably.

Only downside to ssd of course is size for the money. I'm not interested in dropping $400+ on a 1TB. $220 for a 512GB is easier to take, but it sucks to not get a size boost over the stock drive when games are so big now.

I was also looking at the Seagate Backup Plus Fast. That's 4TB for same price as a 512GB SSD plus enclosure. It gets ~225 MBps speed. Still much faster than the internal, but half of what that SSD and enclosure may be able to do if the Xbox lets it get that full 440 MBps speed.

I only want a bus powered drive as well so that limits the choices.

Lastly, the new Crucial MX100 series would be the SSD of choice. There's no 1TB model yet though.
I got several of those vantec external enclosures and used a couple of them with the Crucial M500 SSDs. When connected to a PC I was getting around 400MB/s read/write transfer rates. I have no idea what the transfer rates are on my XBOnes but it is a big improvement with the games loading.

I would have liked to get an MX100 but they came out the week after I bought my M500 480GB SSDs. The MX100 is larger and faster. but from what I've read, Crucial doesn't plan to come out with a 1TB MX100 SSD. They say to buy the M550 or M500 1TB/960GB drives.

But otherwise I have been pleased with my M500 drives. Both them and the MX100 models are rated for 72TB of data transfer during it's life.

I'm hoping by the time I need to add another SSD to each of my XBOnes that the SSd prices will be cut in half again. So for the same $220 I'll be able to 1TB of storage. At least that's what I'm hoping.

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I was discussing that with my friend.

Option 1: drop bigger cash now on a 1tb ssd that will last longer before filling it up.

Option 2: buy a smaller driver now for less knowing you'll need to replace it sooner, but expecting by the time you do replace it that you will be much bigger for the same or less than the original difference after reselling the old drive.
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I was discussing that with my friend.

Option 1: drop bigger cash now on a 1tb ssd that will last longer before filling it up.

Option 2: buy a smaller driver now for less knowing you'll need to replace it sooner, but expecting by the time you do replace it that you will be much bigger for the same or less than the original difference after reselling the old drive.
Well when you are able to sell the old drive the price will also be much lower for that size. I have half a dozen 120GB SSDs lying around because I got them a couple of years ago on sale, but never sold them. So now they really aren't worth it to try and sell them since the prices have come down so much. The 250GB SSD drives I got a couple of years ago for my PCs cost more than the 500GB drives do now.

I basically chose the Option 2, but I will just either repurpose the 480GB SSDs I'm currently using with my XBOnes, or I will just hook up a second SSD to each of my XBOnes and use both of them for storage. I just know that now, after using the SSDs with my XBONes, I can't go back to using the slower platter drives. The SSDs just make everything load much faster.

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Well when you are able to sell the old drive the price will also be much lower for that size. I have half a dozen 120GB SSDs lying around because I got them a couple of years ago on sale, but never sold them. So now they really aren't worth it to try and sell them since the prices have come down so much. The 250GB SSD drives I got a couple of years ago for my PCs cost more than the 500GB drives do now.

I basically chose the Option 2, but I will just either repurpose the 480GB SSDs I'm currently using with my XBOnes, or I will just hook up a second SSD to each of my XBOnes and use both of them for storage. I just know that now, after using the SSDs with my XBONes, I can't go back to using the slower platter drives. The SSDs just make everything load much faster.
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From the preview forums the best bang for your buck is getting a couple 7200 drives in a raid 0 setup. You get the benefit of larger drives, cheaper than ssd and very close in performance to ssd.
What's the best enclosure for something like that? I'd rather it be raid 5, but that'd probably double the price even to use it with small drives. I might just go with a 500GB SSD and back it up to my PC every so often. You could copy the container files on USB sticks for 360, so it should be possible to do the same or image the drive itself this time around. I'm annoyed they require at least a 256GB drive though. I'd use a USB stick for save data to keep it easily backed up if I could. The gigs of game data aren't nearly as important.

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I know nothing about hard drives. Will the Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE1T0BW 2.5" 1TB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive with the VANTEC NST-266S3-BK Aluminum / Plastic 2.5" Black SATA I/II/III USB 3.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure work? I just slip the drive into the enclosure, plug it into the X1, and I'm good to go?

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I know nothing about hard drives. Will the Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE1T0BW 2.5" 1TB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive with the VANTEC NST-266S3-BK Aluminum / Plastic 2.5" Black SATA I/II/III USB 3.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure work? I just slip the drive into the enclosure, plug it into the X1, and I'm good to go?

Thanks in advance for any insight.
Yes. That should work great. The Samsung EVO is supposed to be a great SSD. The XBOne will format the drive for use and then just set it to be used for all installs. Then you can copy or moving existing games over to the SSD.
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I know this has probably been asked but has anyone noticed a difference in using a 5400rpm drive versus a 7200rpm drive? I'm trying to decide between just being lazy and getting a WD 4TB Mybook versus doing it myself but have heard the WD Mybook is 5400rpm and I'd like to cut load times at all if possible.
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aaronwt, just curious and sorry if you have mentioned it before but have you had any issues moving your SSD between multiple xbox one's in the house? I don't need the space just yet but I need to plan ahead for the fall. I'm thinking that a lightweight, self-powered drive to move between 2 systems would work just fine. Plug and play?
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aaronwt, just curious and sorry if you have mentioned it before but have you had any issues moving your SSD between multiple xbox one's in the house? I don't need the space just yet but I need to plan ahead for the fall. I'm thinking that a lightweight, self-powered drive to move between 2 systems would work just fine. Plug and play?
I only moved the SSD once, when I was testing it. But it worked fine the one time I moved it. It showed up and I could move or copy content from the external drive. I now have one 480GB SSD, attached to each of my XBOnes. I don't plan on moving them around since I have it set for everything to be installed on the SSD. I figure worst case, I can add another external 500GB SSD if the 1TB SSDs have not come down in price 50% when my current 480GB SSDs get full.

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Thanks aaronwt. Good call. It would be much better to have extra HD space on demand with no transport at all, especially given the limitations on size for transportable drives (power required). Thank you for all the great info. on this topic.
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RAID Enclosure Not Working

Hi all, I bought two 1 TB Samsung 840 Evo drives, slipped them into a Syba SY-ENC25024 Dual Bay 2.5" SSD USB 3.0 Enclosure RAID and connected to the Xbox, but unfortunately, nothing. The Xbox doesn't recognize the drive.

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Hi all, I bought two 1 TB Samsung 840 Evo drives, slipped them into a Syba SY-ENC25024 Dual Bay 2.5" SSD USB 3.0 Enclosure RAID and connected to the Xbox, but unfortunately, nothing. The Xbox doesn't recognize the drive.

Anyone know what's up?
Why the hell would you try to RAID an SSD with it? One of those drives by itself is fast enough to max out USB 3.0. Unless you're setting up to mirror the data (RAID1), there's no point.
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