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Xbox One S Adds Ultra HD Blu-Ray with HDR

Microsoft's living room-centric take on gaming systems pays dividends for fans of UHD/4K and HDR. Today at E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo) the company announced the inevitable release of a new Xbox One S that swaps out the HD Blu-ray drive for an Ultra HD Blu-ray drive. The result is a gaming machine that can also handle home theater tasks like playing disc-based movies in the highest possible quality and streaming 4K content. Better yet, it also supports HDR gaming in addition to HDR video when playing Ultra HD Blu-rays.

While we do know that the new console will play Ultra HD Blu-ray discs and support HDR through HDR10 (which is the standard), what is not yet known is if it will support Dolby Vision. Furthermore, Microsoft makes no mention of HDR when it comes to streaming video, it only refers to games and movies playing from a disc.

What's astonishing about the new console is the price. At $300 for a 500GB version and $350 for a 1TB model, it effectively eliminates the notion of paying a premium for the Ultra HD Blu-ray drive. You buy the console, you get the drive free. Microsoft also said it would sell a $400 "limited quantity 2TB launch edition."

Years ago the PlayStation 3 became a dominant force and helped popularize the HD Blu-ray format. Recently there were whispers that an update to the PlayStation 4 was on its way, but it appears that Microsoft has beaten Sony to the punch with a console that adds significant new capabilities. It'll be interesting to see how Sony responds to the Xbox One S.

Here's an official video from Microsoft that goes through the key features and offers a good look at the new device:


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Need to know whether or not it can bitstream the audio off the discs. Current models don't and that means no Atmos. Hopefully there is some word on this prior to launch.

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Microsoft's living room-centric take on gaming systems pays dividends for fans of UHD/4K and HDR. Today at E3 (Electronic Entertainment Expo) the company announced the inevitable release of a new Xbox One S—codenamed Project Scorpio—that swaps out the HD Blu-ray drive for an Ultra HD Blu-ray drive. The result is a gaming machine that can also handle home theater tasks like playing disc-based movies in the highest possible quality and streaming 4K content.
Just to be clear, Xbox One S and Project Scorpio are two different systems. Xbox One S is launching Aug 2016 and Project Scorpio is Fall 2017.
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Just to be clear, Xbox One S and Project Scorpio are two different systems. Xbox One S is launching Aug 2016 and Project Scorpio is Fall 2017.
The whole S thing can make it confusing for sure.

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Just to be clear, Xbox One S and Project Scorpio are two different systems. Xbox One S is launching Aug 2016 and Project Scorpio is Fall 2017.
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Just to be clear, Xbox One S and Project Scorpio are two different systems. Xbox One S is launching Aug 2016 and Project Scorpio is Fall 2017.
and that's the big mistake microsoft has made here.
they are selling a console that will be replace in just a year
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I'm sure whatever Sony has up their sleeves will be comparable, and for some preferable. Would be nice to have a $300 UHD Bluray player this year though!
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I'm sure whatever Sony has up their sleeves will be comparable, and for some preferable. Would be nice to have a $300 UHD Bluray player this year though!
? The Xbox One S IS a UHD player for $300.
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and that's the big mistake microsoft has made here.
they are selling a console that will be replace in just a year
They will exist side by side. One is entry level and one is high end. Both have the same library with the more powerful one having better framerates etc.

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? The Xbox One S IS a UHD player for $300.
Sony has a better Blu-Ray player software for their consoles currently. Unless we hear that the XB1 supports bitstream.

The games are what really matters for me though. Right now there is only one game this year I care about and that's Gears of War. Nothing else interests me until next year and that's sad. This is the first year in a while I can say that.
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Sony has a better Blu-Ray player software for their consoles currently. Unless we hear that the XB1 supports bitstream.

The games are what really matters for me though. Right now there is only one game this year I care about and that's Gears of War. Nothing else interests me until next year and that's sad. This is the first year in a while I can say that.
As a practical matter, any player that is an Ultra HD Blu-ray device will need to support object-based audio including Atmos and DTS:X. It's in the spec for the format!
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As a practical matter, any player that is an Ultra HD Blu-ray device will need to support object-based audio including Atmos and DTS:X. It's in the spec for the format!
Well, we'll see, won't we!
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As a practical matter, any player that is an Ultra HD Blu-ray device will need to support object-based audio including Atmos and DTS:X. It's in the spec for the format!
In the Blu-Ray specs support for Dolby Digital was minimal but the Xbox One didn't support it at launch, at all.
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? The Xbox One S IS a UHD player for $300.
Didn't mean to suggest otherwise, was just talking about me specifically. Would never get the S but would consider the Sony offering.
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and that's the big mistake microsoft has made here.
they are selling a console that will be replace in just a year
They exist together so nothing is being replaced. One, One S and Scorpio, along with Windows 10, will all play the same games. If you don't have a 4K tv, there's no need to spend extra for Scorpio. And having a high end Scorpio will just drive down the prices for One and One-S.
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They exist together so nothing is being replaced. One, One S and Scorpio, along with Windows 10, will all play the same games. If you don't have a 4K tv, there's no need to spend extra for Scorpio. And having a high end Scorpio will just drive down the prices for One and One-S.
Just to be clear Windows 10 doesn't play your Xbox game discs but if you buy the game for Xbox One you get it free on Windows 10 if you want it.

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They exist together so nothing is being replaced. One, One S and Scorpio, along with Windows 10, will all play the same games. If you don't have a 4K tv, there's no need to spend extra for Scorpio. And having a high end Scorpio will just drive down the prices for One and One-S.

what should i say...

i see big improvement using the new console on 1080p. maybe it will provide stable 30 FPS@1080p maybe even 60 FPS?

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What I also find exciting is that Gears of War 4 and Forza Horizon 3 will be the first HDR video games.
Now I want a new TV!
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All this new tech is great, now I wonder if they can fix the 7.1 audio bug...
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So there is nothing hardware wise different than a regular xbone? Just the drive and 4k ouput?
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So there is nothing hardware wise different than a regular xbone? Just the drive and 4k ouput?
The hardware appears to be substantially different: much smaller form factor, redesigned controller.
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Just what I was waiting for and my first console pre-order since the PS2. I have an Xbox 360 (and PS3) and have been looking at a XB1 but these rumors had me waiting. Had the PS4 been first to the party with 4K I would have likely bought it, but the 360 game support makes this a no brainer.

However, if it does not live up to the promise as a UHD BD player, MS better have room for a return.
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Of course I bought an expensive Sony 4K tv like one year before the HDR thing started up. Or, I'd be all over the slim shady
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The Xbox one S has and improved Gpu and CPU. The Next Xbox will also play games in HDR here is a pic of the back and link to more info
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The XB1S looks interesting. Even though I'm not into gaming, the price of $300 for a 4k/UHD player compares favorably against the likes of Samsung (UBD-K8500) in the current market. A free gaming console is a nice bonus.

Will be keeping an eye on the XB1S and see how the specs shakes out. Might even interest me back into plying a few games one day.

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Cool.

I wonder if they fixed the atrocious HDMI input / passthrough latency. It's a feature I was excited about originally on the Xbox One, because I'd rather not switch HDMI inputs but it was/is unusable due to the lag. Also, the audio support for it was terrible too.
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I have not seen the full specs yet? Like will it Bitstream? Will it support atmos? Does it have upgraded anything? I have read that it won't game at 4k just movies and streaming. But the current xbox can game at 4k.... just 2d stuff and some small games, but it can do it
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I'm curious if that spec only applies to actual blu ray players. It's possible that since the xbox is technically a gaming console, that it's loopholed from having to follow all of the specs for a stand alone 4k blu ray player?
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With the capability to extract the audio and bitstream on even the cheapest players these days, I don't see how they COULDN'T include this capability this time around. It would be a huge mistake.
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