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Have any of you found a "sweet-spot" size that maximizes the resolution and clarity of the image for a certain size? I know people are always going for bigger=better concept with projectors it seems, but I'm more concerned with clarity and resolution perfection. My throw distance will be 13-14 feet depending on what size screen I choose. Also, what screen ratio are most y'all using? 2:35 or 16x9? Thanks in advance, I appreciate all your help getting me into this genre of technological fantasticness!

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I have the same seating distance and I have my 720p Epson Projector (TW600) display a 100" 16:9 image. I think that anywhere between 90" and 120" is sweet. If you go the DIY route for your screen, you can set up pj, connect xbox360, display image on wall and adjust the size to one that you prefer and make screen to that size. (one of the advantages of a Pj- provided it has lens shift and decent throw range of course).
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I have a Panasonic AE900 with a 92" screen and I am sitting about 11 feet away from the screen. My wife and I are absolutely blown away by the picture quaility we are getting..

I just got the 360 for Christmas and after playing it for a week, I am wondering why I waited so long to take the plunge..
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Dude get into it! You can't go wrong with the quality of a projectors that are out these days. Just make sure you get a true 720P projector. You can find many of them on sale and Jason Turk of AVS can give you great advice and sell you a pj and screen together for a good price!
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I'm at 14 ft. with a 108" screen and it's great. I'm not sure there is an establised sweet spot and I bet you'll mostly get n=1 opinions, like this one!

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About 12 ft with a 116" screen and it's fantastic.


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Ideal screen size is dependent upon several variables:

seating distance
pj resolution
pj brightness

and most importantly, personal preference.

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9.5ft from a 8ft wide screen, needless to say I need to upgrade to a 1080P projector.

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Optoma Projector

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11 ' away

just like going to the movies but better since my couches are sooo nice


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I just upgraded from Infocus 4805 to an IN72. In regards to the Xbox 360 will I see a great difference PQ wise if I get a Mitsubushi HD1000u/Optoma 70 compare to my current IN72?

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I would recommend first getting the projector that you will use set up in your room. I strongly recommend that you thoroughly search through the projector forums here to get a short list of projectors and then call one of this sites hosts for your purchase. I went through Jason Turk. He was very knowledgable about and helped me narrow down my list to the projector that best suited my needs. Oh, and I got a phenomenal price too.
I wouldn't purchase a screen just yet. Wait until you have the projector in you room and play some xbox games, movies and TV on your wall, a sheet, or a 4x8 sheet of white board from Lowes/Home depot for $10. Zoom your image in and out and measure the dimensions of the image that best suits your room. You can then go out and buy a screen with confidence that it WILL be the perfect size for you. Carada screens have some of the best quality screens that rival the most expensive screens out there but fit into a much smaller budget. Check their link above.
I'd go 16:9. It is the native resolution for both HDTV and Xbox 360 games. 2:35 and other dimensions are specific to movies but not all movies are in that dimension either. If you go with a 16:9 and want to eliminate the black bars on the top and bottom of your screen during movies, you can always get masks for your screen. Basically they are slip on black velvet pieces that absorb the light and tranform your screen into a different dimension screen. This is unnesesary in my opinion but can be done cheaply and easily.
Good luck. Gears of War on my 106" screen from 14' away is an incredible experience. I hope you get to experience it for yourself.
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Hey guys. Thanks for the feedback. I guess I wasn't too clear in my original post that I already have the projector. I bought an HD1000U from ProjectorPeople (excellent experience by the way). I was just looking really for screen feedback and experiences. The projector part seemed easy to me to decide on, as the numbers are clear-cut and right there. The screen, on the other hand, has been the difficult part in understanding/choosing, hence the inquiry. Keep it coming, I'm happy to see everyone's take on everything.

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I build a screen from wilsonart laminate and have been very happy. Materials ran me about $120 all told and I ended up with a bright white, 116" screen with 3in black velvet borders.


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Hey Six, do you have any pics you could post? I'm interested to see the quality of the image on a DIY. Thanks.

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I have just picked up a Pana PT-AX100 over Christmas. Have decided to go with a smaller screen instead of the 100"+ that is usually selected, mainly for the reasons of less pixelation and higher brightness.

I have a 77" screen and sit about 12' back and it looks absoutely stunning for both the 360 and for DVDs. Unfortunately no HD-DVD player yet.
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See Kind, that's kind of what I was thinking. I was pondering going with a 96" screen (roughly) and sitting around 12-13 feet back for those very same reasons you mentioned. Some people seem to like the bigger=better ideology, but for me it's all about quality not quantity. Thanks.

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I have just picked up a Pana PT-AX100 over Christmas. Have decided to go with a smaller screen instead of the 100"+ that is usually selected, mainly for the reasons of less pixelation and higher brightness.

I have a 77" screen and sit about 12' back and it looks absoutely stunning for both the 360 and for DVDs. Unfortunately no HD-DVD player yet.

I am considering the same purchase but want to get near a 100" 16:9 screen at a 12' view distance (15 foot throw distance). I watch 90% HD though.

I will not have this in a bat cave so I need a screen that can deal with some occasional ambient lighting, which unfortunately leaves the (easy to setup) do-able DIY screen out of the equation... I am wondering if the monoprice screens will fit the bill. The price sure is right. Picking screens is tough, especially after reading so many differing opinions on this site.


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Hey evo, I'm not so certain you are out of luck with a DIY. I have been reading that thread like a maniac, and a lot of guys say the Dove White (DW?) is pretty decent with ambient light. I looked at some screen shots, and thought they looked good. I'm trying to find, I know this sounds crazy, some comparative screen shots with a projector vs. a plasma. I just want to see it to compare the resolutions and how good these screens really compare. It's probably a sin to say something like that in a room full of projector guys, but I just want to see.

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Sorry, the DW was supposed to be Designer White. All the abreviations get confusing sometimes.

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I have a designer white screen, and while I love it, it's NOT the screen to get if you have ambient light issues. It's very sensitive to ambient light and quickly gets washed out. Consider a grey screen of some kind if you can't get almost totall dark.


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92" screen (16:9), 13 feet away. This for me is the comfortable distance to screen size. I've sat in HT's with 100"+ screesn at 13 feet and found I was just too close for such a large screen.

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In the screen forum the DaLite HiPower was a good buy. I picked one up myself and I'm very happy. I have a 106" screen and I sit about 12-14 ft away (never measured)


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I have a 106" diagonal 16:9 Studiotek 130. I have very comfy chairs at about 13' for movie viewing. I find gaming nice from that distance and screen size, for some titles. Oblivion is great at that optical angle.

When I play Test Drive Unlimited, I find I want to be closer. The shear exhilaration of speed requires more of my peripheral vision filled. We have some gaming chairs that I can place at any distance, which I play at about 8-9' for TDU. But these are low to the floor, which is not a problem for a 1.3 gain screen. If I had a high gain screen, I would expect to get hot spots if I tried to view from a low center position.

All this with a 1080p Sony Ruby throwing the picture. It is sweet! (Only had the 360 since last weekend, so I am still a newbie at big screen gaming).

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Sounds like an awesome setup, Ken.


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Screen size is obviously relative to view distance but I find for most average installs Optimal image quality is from about 84" to 96" diagonal . That said I sit 15' from a 120" HiPower and think it's great even though I know that my previous 84" image was better quality ( especially from that same view distance of 15' ) . It just comes down to what draws you into the whole experience , what gives you that THEATER feel at home that no average sized Plasma/LCD/RPTV can .

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Thanks Pimp. I think with the size of the 4x8 DIY materials, I'm going to shoot for 100" even (it's a little more uniform for the projector throw too). I can put the projector at 12' and get a good image at 100" according to the calculator. If it doesn't look good or work, I can always cut it smaller, but it'd be hard to make it bigger if I cut for 96" first. Boy Scout motto: always cut toward your partner...no...wait...measure twice cut once. That's the one!

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Thanks Pimp. I think with the size of the 4x8 DIY materials, I'm going to shoot for 100" even (it's a little more uniform for the projector throw too). I can put the projector at 12' and get a good image at 100" according to the calculator. If it doesn't look good or work, I can always cut it smaller, but it'd be hard to make it bigger if I cut for 96" first. Boy Scout motto: always cut toward your partner...no...wait...measure twice cut once. That's the one!

The rule of thumb is that your viewing distance should be 1.5 times your screen width.

Just a rule of thumb but gives you an idea if you are in the ballpark.

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