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post #1 of 124 Old 01-31-2007, 07:33 AM - Thread Starter
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I've sifted through a lot of random threads regarding the 360 hooked up via VGA vs component so I thought we could sound of here if your VERY HAPPY with YOUR set using VGA. I have my 360 hooked up to my 32 inch Vizio (Last years model), and prefer the VGA over component. The reason? Less ghosting for sure, and the overscan via component was TERRIBLE. I did a side by side comparison of many games and the component cut off a LOT of screen on a lot of games.

Granted, the VGA does have slightly less vibrant colors as the component, but the VGA does make games look a tad bit punchier and crisper. Once in a while, I switch a game to component and while I do enjoy a little more vibrancy in the color on some games, the clarity and punch is better on VGA. And the overscan is just terrible via component. Also of interest is many Vizio models will crop off a 1/4 of the left screen if you run VGA via 1366x768. So the best resolution to my eyes via VGA is 1280x720. Overall, I'm much more pleased with VGA and my 360. The new update a few weeks ago didn't seem to change any of the supposed "washed out look" many report. My colors via VGA look the same to me. Even after my limited ability to calibrate settings on this particular set, the colors via VGA are not as saturated as component. The closest I can get to component colors is setting the color temperature to the preset 6500 k But my eyes have adjusted.

So, here's your chance to help the community. Tell us your T.V. and model, and tell us why you feel your VGA settings are better than component in your experiences.


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post #2 of 124 Old 01-31-2007, 07:58 AM
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Sanyo Z3. Full color adjustments under VGA. Took about an hour to get everything perfect, ok maybe 2.

Its a crisper picture than component, especially due to the red push via component on Z3's that is tough to compensate for.

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HLS6187 Sammy. VGA is literally worth its weight in gold.
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*Claps hands over and over and over*

42" Sony A10 set. Beautiful. Much better than component!

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50" Panny 9UK does not allow for color adjustments but still looks fantastic...I also found that what made the biggest difference was adjusting the greyscale, not the color...
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VGA is very great. My Westinghouse w4207 does 1:1 pixel mapping with 1360x768. Plus I get full color adjustments.

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I have a Samsung HLN 437W. I really love VGA for the 360. I use the 360 for DVDs and HD-DVDs. Much better than component.
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*clap* *clap*... for the VGA performance I got out of my Vizio 42" plasma while I had it. It truly did make a difference in sharpness, and the upscaling of SD DVD's done by the XBox was commendable. I wish the JVC 56FC97 that I exchanged the Viz for had a VGA port, but such was not the case.

Mukdweller's comment about selecting the 1280 x 720 res is spot on... that worked like a champ with my Vizio. BTW, I had to exchange the Vizio after it developed a stuck pixel right in the middle of the screen. Costco gave me a store credit for it, which I used to help cover the cost of the 56FC97. I was happy with the Viz, but the 42" screen size was way too small for my living room. I'm happy with the 56" size of the JVC, which does a good job of upscaling and deinterlacing itself.

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Sammsung HLR 4667W 720 set...
Just invested in the VGA this past weekend, Not much chance to tweak, but I put in LOTR as soon as I hooked up the cable, set the XBOX to 720 and WOW!!! I have not seen any upconverted DVD's until now, but if that's what they look like, I will be very VERY happy.
Checked the opening sequence "Balrog Scene", and after I picked up my jaw, moved on to "The Battle of Hornbug".
I had to make minor tweaks to the color, but the picture is every bit as good as the OTA signals I am receiving.
Games look the same, but then they always have transmitted the game in 720 over component.

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VGA looks a little sharper than component on my Samsung LN-S3292D LCD running @ 1360x768. The black levels don't seem to be as deep as they are with component though... especially in NBA2K7, which for some reason has noticeably lower contrast on my TV with VGA than it does with component. Maybe my TV only accepts PC levels over the VGA input and not video levels. Not sure. All I know is that I have to set the brightness way down (to about 20 or so) to get suitable black levels with the 360 at VGA while it's fine at 40-50 with component.
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Great comments so far everyone!! The reason for this thread is to help some of those who want to buy a new set and should be considering how VGA looks on the set before they buy. I know some have said there VGA just can't compete with component so all your posts are a great help!!


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HLS6187 Sammy. VGA is literally worth its weight in gold.

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Works great with my panny 50HD7UY. It was even a 'free' input that you are stuck with out of the box, so much the better.

I wish I could run NR with the xbox, but 1360x768 scaled to leave 3 pixels black on either side is pretty close from what I can tell with test patterns displayed to the 360, so no worries for me. It also expects RGB (can switch to YPbPr too but no reason to) so it's all good from a calibration standpoint. And I don' t have to worry about scaling 1080i in the TV (not that it does a horrible job, but just that I'd rather have the Xbox keep the progressive signal intact and do the scaling in the output buffer.
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Just great on the Samsung Hl-S5086

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VGA rulz, component droolz. Calibration is the key.

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Another Samsung HL-S5086W owner here (just bought it a couple days ago), and I'm more than happy with it. Absolutely breath-taking.

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Any calibration tips for a Samsung LN-S3238D?
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Sony VPL-HS20 projector - VGA 1280 x 720 ... Everything looks pretty good .. just can't get full screen ... native is 1368 x 768 Really like DVD upverts and HD-DVD

Tried on my 26" Olevia also and plays full 1368 x 768 ... with the small screen at that rez .. it really makes DVD upverts look great.
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Westinghouse W3213 with VGA looks great. Gotta put in some time with the adjustments, but well worth it. Now I can leave my component cables hooked up to my Sony KP46WT510 (dont laugh) full time.
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VGA is the best! Westinghouse w4207 and loving it. Calibration is indeed key, and if MS let us have a dashboard build in calibration controls that'd be awesome!

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I love it. The colors are more natural, clarity is improved.

I have a 4805 and a Westinghouse 32w6

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I'm happy with it on my whatever model Sharp LCD.
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HLS6187 Sammy. VGA is literally worth its weight in gold.

Samsung HSL5687W here and this guy took the words right out of my mouth. Consider my hands clapping...

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37 in Westy and loving VGA! It's awsome! After you calibrate of course!!!
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Samsung HSL5687W here and this guy took the words right out of my mouth. Consider my hands clapping...

HLS6188W never had component hooked up always VGA and all I can say it looks AMAZING
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*Claps hands over and over and over*

42" Sony A10 set. Beautiful. Much better than component!

Ditto!!
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50" TH-5-PX500 Panny Plasma, love it, the 360 is a few pixles short on the either side, but doesn't matter.
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Anyone using VGA with HL-S4676S? If so, are you clapping your hands?

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The HLS5065W *claps its hands*
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