Originally Posted by rickrayl
I have a slightly different problem, but I thought I'd post here and see if anyone has a simple solution.
I am going to run HDMI from the XBOX 360 to my receiver (Onkyo 875) and have the receiver upscale the video to send to the TV. Since HDMI is going to the receiver, I don't have a need to get optical audio there.
I do, however, need to get analog audio in addition to the digital audio that's passing through the HDMI in order to distribute sound to my whole house audio system through the receiver's zone 2 (which will only output from analog inputs).
Is there a cable I can connect simultaneously with the HDMI that will allow this (i.e., something thin enough to fit beside the HDMI)? If that will not work easily, will the MS HDMI cable with the dongle solve my problem (i.e., will it allow for both digital and analog audio simultaneously)? If the MS cable is the solution, I guess I need to return my Premium and hunt for a falcon Elite. Thanks!
You can buy the MS HDMI cable kit since that comes with the audio only dongle. That will do what you want and of course the audio only dongle is thin enough to fit with both it and the HDMI cable connected. The audio only dongle has both optical and analog audio connections that are active at the same time. The analog audio is of course, a downmix of any multi-channel surround sound, while the optical connection carries the full surround.
Most people aren't willing to spend the $50 for the MS HDMI cable. So, there are 2 alternatives. Hunt down a MadCatz universal cable, since those are thin enough to coexist with the HDMI cable, or alternatively, you can use a MS or generic, component or VGA cable and trim the plastic of the cable's connector housing to allow the HDMI cable some room to fit. In either case, you may run into the problem that originally spawned this thread. That is, if you are displaying from the 360 on your TV or monitor via HDMI and you switch your TV away to a different input and then switch back to HDMI, it will cause your 360 to reboot itself. In your case with HDMI sent through your AV receiver, if you switch the AV receiver to a different input than HDMI from the 360 and then switch back, that's when you'll get the reboot. That won't happen with the official MS audio only dongle that comes with the MS HDMI cable kit. You can modify a standard component or VGA cable, or the MadCatz universal cable, to behave like the MS audio only dongle. To do that, you need to crack open the connector housing and modify some connections.
For a VGA cable, you just need to add a connection between pins 22 and 24. For a component cable including the MadCatz universal, you need to remove the connection between pins 26 and 28 and keep the HDTV/TV switch in the TV position.
BTW I understand why you want to run the 360 HDMI through the receiver in order to get the audio, but why do you want to use the receiver to "upscale" the video? The 360 can output in 1080P via HDMI already.