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post #541 of 12424 Old 12-12-2007, 09:04 AM
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I have a lot of trouble with the kick pedal. I find myself using my entire leg A LOT. My timing isn't very good just pivoting at the ankle for some reason.

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You state correctly DaverJ....For drummers it's called playing "heel up".

It's where basically the ball of your foot is in constant contact with the kick pedal and the heel of the foot remains "up" and off the pedal. The "pretty tricky" part is finding the correct amount of pressure to leave on the kick pedal.

At NO time, be it heel up or down (foot flat) should your foot leave contact with the pedal. And I do not mean just for real playing, that goes for the game too as stated in the tutorials I believe).

The heel up method will test your balance, "feel" for the pedal and work out the calf/shin and possibly the whole darn leg.

During one of the loading screens I think they also recommend leaving your foot (flat) and totally compress the pedal. THEN lift up and down to get the notes. But again, it takes mental timing to adjust for the "trip" up and quickly back down to get that note.


That's how I play. Half pressure, heel off the ground and using pivot and leg action.

I also found that sitting with my crotch facing the red drum helped with doing crashes with the green and made my foot feel more natural on the pedal. As mentioned, I found that the kit slightly forward helps as does the right height as the manual states. Also helps with speed on the red and red/yellow runs.

If you have not done so already, make sure you manually calibrate everything. It really helps.

Also, one nice way to practice (if at work at a desk!) is to have that nervous habit in your leg. Try keeping your heel off the ground and the ball putting pressure on the floor. Sit there and bounce your leg up and down in the nervous motion.
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At NO time, be it heel up or down (foot flat) should your foot leave contact with the pedal.

Great tip Rhyvven, thanks!

As you were typing your response I was editing mine to replace "heal" with "pivot the ankle", but based on your reply I'm not sure if I'm as accurate now.

Can you re-read my comment above and let me know if I'm off-track please?

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Also, one nice way to practice (if at work at a desk!) is to have that nervous habit in your leg. Try keeping your heel off the ground and the ball putting pressure on the floor. Sit there and bounce your leg up and down in the nervous motion.

Oh boy...I'm ALLL about the leg shakes at work at my desk!! lol I should have no problem getting all this down.......hopefully!

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Oh boy...I'm ALLL about the leg shakes at work at my desk!! lol I should have no problem getting all this down.......hopefully!

Yeah, I need to get a spare pedal for work.

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I have a lot of trouble with the kick pedal. I find myself using my entire leg A LOT. My timing isn't very good just pivoting at the ankle for some reason.

Being an actual drummer, I can tell you that is how most drummers play the base and double base drums, even the high hat. Here's my "Rock Band" set-up.



I tried the demo setup at Best Buy, it's just not the same.
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I find it has more to do with your energy level...on the drums It's best to start playing early

Dead on with this...played Sandman over lunch and blew away my previous high (set last night) by over 30,000...which should tell you just how bad I was doing last night.

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Dead on with this...played Sandman over lunch and blew away my previous high (set last night) by over 30,000...which should tell you just how bad I was doing last night.

I played Sandman last night on hard and almost lost it at the end because I was tired. It's one of those songs that, like Reaper, has a tricky ending ... and keeps going beyond the original song.

"Hey, the song should have faded out by now!"

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OK, so how many of you...

- have poked yourself in the eye with a drumstick while playing?

- have had a drumstick fly out of your hand during a "fill" section?

- have had a drumstick fly out of your hand twice during the same song?

- have decided to play "just one more song", but keep going until you finish set list after set list?

- have seen your otherwise "normal" friend turn into a devil-like creature while trying their hand at vocals?

- still have all the Rock Band boxes from the packaging piled in the corner of your room, too busy playing to actually clean up that mess?

All signs of a great game!
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Being an actual drummer, I can tell you that is how most drummers play the base and double base drums, even the high hat. Here's my "Rock Band" set-up.



I tried the demo setup at Best Buy, it's just not the same.

You use a rack? Lame.



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You must have some rubber ankles too. I don't think I could play the hit-hat like that.
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You must have some rubber ankles too. I don't think I could play the hit-hat like that.

LOL !! My hat is actually cable operated by remote pedal, easier placement with the double base. Love the rack by the way, tear down and set up is a breeze.
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My brother played drums. I often helped setup for gigs for a number of years. That rack setup looks a ton easier to put up and tear down. He'll be back in town during xmas. I'm interested to see what he thinks of Rock Band. He was damn good and majored in jazz/music theory.
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My brother played drums. I often helped setup for gigs for a number of years. That rack setup looks a ton easier to put up and tear down. He'll be back in town during xmas. I'm interested to see what he thinks of Rock Band. He was damn good and majored in jazz/music theory.

When I was in a band our drummer had a rack. It was ridiculously easy to set up and take down.
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I got a 2nd replacement guitar, but it's still iffy. The overdrive seems to fire itself off sometimes, but the strum bar is quieter than the first replacement. I sure hope they make the wireless one a "deluxe" version, as I would pay more for a wireless Strat that worked well and kept working. Heck, I'd pay extra for wired one that kept working well as I like the guitar.

I'm back to using the guitar pick, which I find really helps me keep time alt-strumming the long sections.
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Wow the wireless strat is going to be $79? Yikes I guess I can live with the wire
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If they'd ever get to finishing that "Who's Next" album, that would bring a whole lot of DLC joy to me.

OHHH MAAAAN im so drooling for Who's Next to be released.....please release real soon...i cant wait anymore
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OHHH MAAAAN im so drooling for Who's Next to be released.....please release real soon...i cant wait anymore

Wasn't it originally rumored to be released within a week of the game's release? What is the expected date now?
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Let me tell you guys something.....

I was just at Bestbuy on my lunch break checking out stuff in their gaming section and what do I see as soon as I get there?? A brand new Rockband Kiosk with Klipsch Synergy surround sound set up. I see this guy trying out the guitar with about 5 to 7 people looking on watching him play. As soon as hes done, I ask him if I can get on the drums while he plays guitar. He said sure and I hear people saying...."Whoa, both of them are going to play?!?!" lol. So, I pick Foo Fighters Fly and I start jammin on the drums. By the time I'm done, there are about 18 to 20 people crowded behind us watching and all I hear are people asking the BB drones where they can purchase this game. The best thing HRMONIX has done (especially over this holiday) is having these Kiosk set up (and putting up new ones when need be) because they practically sell themselves.

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Wow the wireless strat is going to be $79? Yikes I guess I can live with the wire

Believe it or not i live the wire one better...its like the 360 is the amp...lol
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Believe it or not i live the wire one better...its like the 360 is the amp...lol

The only thing I don't like is the rats nest of cables when trying to put away the four-person band setup without completely breaking down all the connections. It's fugly.
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Ha, that is just like a real band though.

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Ha, that is just like a real band though.

True! Now if they could only add that zap you sometimes get when you've got your guitar ready, lean to the mic to sing, and realize you're not entirely grounded! Fun stuff!

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The only thing I don't like is the rats nest of cables when trying to put away the four-person band setup without completely breaking down all the connections. It's fugly.

Ain't that the truth. I would LOVE some wireless stuff, for the guitars at the very least. Hopefully they'll be out in a month or two.
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Ain't that the truth. I would LOVE some wireless stuff, for the guitars at the very least. Hopefully they'll be out in a month or two.

Current eta is February.

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Current eta is February.

As mentioned before, it's pretty much the same price to buy the bundle and get $30 or whatever back from Gamestop. Although, it might not be a $30 value anymore to GS.
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The only thing I don't like is the rats nest of cables when trying to put away the four-person band setup without completely breaking down all the connections. It's fugly.

+1.

Fortunately I happen to prefer my wireless guitar from GH 3 over the strat from RB, so for times when I'm just playing solo on guitar there's no wires to deal with.
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Ain't that the truth. I would LOVE some wireless stuff, for the guitars at the very least. Hopefully they'll be out in a month or two.

I dont trust the release dates on some of these sittes but amazons claims january 31 for the wireless...

http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Band-Xbox..._bxgy_vg_img_b
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