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This isn't guaranteed to come out, but I'm still excited about this. I've been looking for a new case to come out for ages!

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MS added a heatsink to the GPU on the new systems plus the new chips run cooler.
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That doesn't change the fact that there are still problems. Also, every 360 out there isn't a 65 nm. (in reference to flood222's statement)
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That doesn't change the fact that there are still problems. Also, every 360 out there isn't a 65 nm. (in reference to flood222's statement)

yeah good point. But its covered under warranty.

Upgrading360 or warranty replacement are better options that the case IMO. Although the case does have the geek factor.
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That's part of the reason I want one.
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yeah good point. But its covered under warranty.

Upgrading360 or warranty replacement are better options that the case IMO. Although the case does have the geek factor.

Yea but there's still no evidence that that heatsink and the die-shrink on the CPU are enough to eliminate overheating issues. Plus MS's RRoD warranty is worthless, you get to wait a month for the replacement process then get a system that will brick sometime between immediately after you get it back and 3 months later.

The case mod would probably quiet the fans quite a bit too, and as you said: geek factor.
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Yea but there's still no evidence that that heatsink and the die-shrink on the CPU are enough to eliminate overheating issues. Plus MS's RRoD warranty is worthless, you get to wait a month for the replacement process then get a system that will brick sometime between immediately after you get it back and 3 months later.

The case mod would probably quiet the fans quite a bit too, and as you said: geek factor.

I'm at 4 months with my replacement. I must be special.


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Waiting for a replacement does indeed suck.

That case is no guarentee either though. Then you'll have voided your warranty and be out the $$$ for the 360.
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I'm at 4 months with my replacement. I must be special.


Ok, so I exaggerated a bit but I've heard of too many people saying their on their 3rd 360 to trust the RRoD warranty. Including a few people I know who have gotten their refurbs, turned them on, and been staring the RRoD in the face.
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They didn't list a price but generally speaking Lian-Li cases are expensive. If you're willing to break your warranty (which this would do) there are much cheaper and effective alternatives.

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Waiting for a replacement does indeed suck.

That case is no guarentee either though. Then you'll have voided your warranty and be out the $$$ for the 360.

Yea but if you're willing to do the case mod you probably won't mind doing the x-clamp fix and replacing the thermal paste if your 360 does brick.
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I think moving the DVD drive off the top of the GPU heatsink alone would make huge strides in longevity.
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The solution has always been here and I like to think every once in a while I really nail it.

It's called a mini-fridge. Top shelf you place the 360, drill a whole out the back for cables and silicoln it tight. Beer on the bottom shelf. What you get is a cool 360 and a quiet 360 and face it, you always wanted a mini-fridge any way! FTW, thank you very much. lol but a serious lol
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Yea but if you're willing to do the case mod you probably won't mind doing the x-clamp fix and replacing the thermal paste if your 360 does brick.

Bingo, takes longer to read this thread than it does to do the x-clamp fix. As far as all the talk about the 65nm chips, the problem is not with CPU, it is with the GPU. The GPU gets hot and the lead-free solder begins to melt, which allows the chip to move, causing the red rings. If you can do some research and turn a screwdriver you can do the x-clamp fix and thermal paste in no time flat.
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I have an out of coverage X360 I'd like to try with this.

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I gotta agree with posters here....Who exactly is buying this....if you are willing to void your warranty, you can use any old PC case and just drill a couple of mounting holes..hell just take the top cover off the case....there's a host of potential options.

I don't get it: Would you rather spend $150 on a Lian Li (they aren't cheap) case or just pay $120 or so to get your Xbox fixed out of warranty??? My original replacement is running just dandy for 1 1/2 years now.....

More Confusion if you read the article: "thanks to the case you can now upgrade the Hard Drive"...huh?! Unless of course they are talking about running your 360 hacked. :P

I have no idea who would buy this thing.

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More Confusion if you read the article: "thanks to the case you can now upgrade the Hard Drive"...huh?! Unless of course they are talking about running your 360 hacked. :P

Even a 360 with hacked firmware will not allow you to upgrade your harddive, these guys obviously know nothing about the 360.
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Bingo, takes longer to read this thread than it does to do the x-clamp fix. As far as all the talk about the 65nm chips, the problem is not with CPU, it is with the GPU. The GPU gets hot and the lead-free solder begins to melt, which allows the chip to move, causing the red rings. If you can do some research and turn a screwdriver you can do the x-clamp fix and thermal paste in no time flat.

There is no way the solder melts. The melting point for most commonly used lead-free solders is around 200 deg C. The chip would be damaged long before then. I don't doubt there are mechanical problems related to board flexing that end up breaking connections or causing poor contacts, but it is definitely not solder melting.
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It's called a mini-fridge. Top shelf you place the 360, drill a whole out the back for cables and silicoln it tight. Beer on the bottom shelf. What you get is a cool 360 and a quiet 360 and face it, you always wanted a mini-fridge any way! FTW, thank you very much. lol but a serious lol

It's called condensation, it will ruin your 360.

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I try not to think about the next RROD. I'm hoping my refurb hangs in there until the new units have a long track-record without failures, then I'll get a new one and demote this box to an emergency spare. But that case would be nice if I could ship my unit to an Approved Installer and get back something that would still have a warranty. I wonder how much Microsoft would want to authorize a company willing to do that?...

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