Well, looks like I waited too long for a slim deal, as my 60GB Phat refurbished unit just kicked the bucket with the dreaded YLOD. My long term worries came true, once again.
I bought my original 60GB on launch day, and it worked steadfast until June of 2009. I heard of others getting the YLOD, but mine finally failed too. $150 and three weeks later (mid July) Sony mailed me a refurbished Phat, and so the clock started ticking again. My first one died a little over 2 years from purchase. Almost to the month my second died two years later.
If you currently have one, I'd strongly recommend you sell it, or trade it in for a slim. I'm no longer convinced that the heat / solder issues are a minority problem within the scope of electronic failure rates. Yours will eventually go too. Be warned.
Not sure where I'm going from here. I've read about reballing the RSX, but I'm hesitant because it seems hard to find a reputable servicer, there's no guarantee it'll work (or be fixed correctly or competently), and it seems a reball might also only be a temp fix.
I will reflow it for the time being to make a backup, deactivate it and grab my save files that weren't updated this week.
I'm not too keen on giving Sony cash anytime soon. $700 at launch and $150 for a refurb isn't chump change. They can go to hell if they think I'll pay $100 to get a refurb slim.
Maybe I'll wait for a U3 bundle, or something worthwhile. Either way, Sony Customer Service is going to get an earful.
My 80 GB original version got moderate use, at best.
My suspicion is what finally did it in (YLOD), is when I ran it in a fairly warm room for like 4 hours. That alone was not really the culprit, though. I accidentally turned it back on while handling it, right after shutting it down after that session, and it started up just fine. Here's the kicker...I moved it to a different part of the room after I shut it down again. I think holding the case tightly and moving it may have shifted those solder contacts while they were still liquid hot...and that was the last time I saw it run.
Coincidence?...I dunno. If you don't want to tempt fate, don't move your ps3 around until it has gotten dead cold.
Took the plunge last weekend. My phat's laser was acting weird so decided to bite the bullet before it completely dies... EBgames had UC3 bundle with a free game (MW3,BF3, Skyrim or Batman). Took MW3, just beated the campaign and will trade it for 50$ at FS
The Phat will be going into the bedroom once I buy a TV
Interesting...a Phat PS3 (resurrected, in my case) will kick down to and sustain the lowest fan speed when input air temp gets down to 48-ish deg F. Is it still a ticking YLOD timebomb running that cool or indefinitely safe?...we shall see.
I had a original 60GB that lasted me for about 4 years. It went out in March of this year and paid the 129 since I didnt want the slim model. The refurb lasted me for about 6 months before it YLOD again. When I called Sony they wanted to charge me again since it was past the 3 month warranty. After talking to a manager they waived the fee but I could only get a phat since that's what I was sending in. So a month and a half later this one YLOD. I called Sony and it's covered for a free replacement since its under 3 months. The thing is they want to send me another phat. So I tell them I am tired of this happening and would like a slim. After being put on hold for a bit they come back and agree to send me a slim. It just kind of sucks since I lost all my data and I doubt I will get my system before Thanksgiving.
Quick question I have a one month past launch 60gb console that I would like to upgrade to a new slim. What would be my best way of doing it? Do the 60gb still go for a lot on e-bay and craigslist? I still have the original box and everything so it really is in near mint condition.
If you have older firmware on it (3.55 or earlier), there are people looking for SACD capable units on the forums at audiocircle.com and computeraudiophile.com.
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If you have older firmware on it (3.55 or earlier), there are people looking for SACD capable units on the forums at audiocircle.com and computeraudiophile.com.
Don't know. They are mostly hitting ebay and looking for units that have not been resoldered.
You can also get hirez PCM transcode rips of your SACDs using one of several HDMI/SPDIF de-embedders. That's what I've done with all my SACDs, as my phat is past 3.55 because I game with it, and don't have a DSD capable DAC in my music system anyway.
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You can also get hirez PCM transcode rips of your SACDs using one of several HDMI/SPDIF de-embedders. That's what I've done with all my SACDs, as my phat is past 3.55 because I game with it, and don't have a DSD capable DAC in my music system anyway.
Noooooooooooooo...... I decided recently to buy a new slim and sell the 40gb fat (which I upgraded with a 320gb hdd) but I forgot to do a backup of the info before selling it . Wife: "Ok you can get a new one as long as all the saved games are kept and We sell the fat one first" Me: "Yeah that's fine I'll just plug the original 40gb hdd back into the fat and put the 320gb into the slim and it's all good" HA how wrong was I!!!! So now I'm going to be busy earning back all my trophies
I have the CECHE01 MG (MetalGearSolid4) 80GB "fat" PS3 that I bought new. I, too, am concerned that some day it may die, though it's never had a problem so far.
GameStop will give me $80 + $50 bonus toward a 160GB PS3 Slim through December 4, 2011. The bonus stops after December 4.
Is this a good deal? I have to include an original DualShock controller + USB cable (I don't know if I have to include the Multi-AV and/or power cord, too - but I'd get it all back with the new PS3 Slim). Thus, a $250 160GB PS3 Slim would cost me net $120 + tax.
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I have the CECHE01 MG (MetalGearSolid4) 80GB "fat" PS3 that I bought new. I, too, am concerned that some day it may die, though it's never had a problem so far.
GameStop will give me $80 + $50 bonus toward a 160GB PS3 Slim through December 4, 2011. The bonus stops after December 4.
Is this a good deal? I have to include an original DualShock controller + USB cable (I don't know if I have to include the Multi-AV and/or power cord, too - but I'd get it all back with the new PS3 Slim). Thus, a $250 160GB PS3 Slim would cost me net $120 + tax.
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Originally Posted by eweiss /forum/post/21271823
I have the CECHE01 MG (MetalGearSolid4) 80GB "fat" PS3 that I bought new. I, too, am concerned that some day it may die, though it's never had a problem so far.
GameStop will give me $80 + $50 bonus toward a 160GB PS3 Slim through December 4, 2011. The bonus stops after December 4.
Is this a good deal? I have to include an original DualShock controller + USB cable (I don't know if I have to include the Multi-AV and/or power cord, too - but I'd get it all back with the new PS3 Slim). Thus, a $250 160GB PS3 Slim would cost me net $120 + tax.
I just sold my 40gb, 4 games, controller etc and got $200. Bought a new 160gb slim (which has the duel shock 2 to 40gb was only the sixaxis) for $288 - only $88 out of pocket
My almost 3 yr old 40 gb committed suicide via the YLOD
last week. I did the heat gun reflow and it works but after 5 mins the fan goes into turbo mode and I have to shut it down. It never used to overheat before. I wonder if the reflow screwed up something else.I did try different amounts of thermal paste. Any ideas? I'm now torn on whether to buy another. I probably will due to the money invested in games and the fact the xbox isn't any better. It just pisses me off that Sony won't admit to the problem and extend the warranty like Microsoft did.
I've got 2 launch 60 fattys still going strong! one gets used every day for netflix and the other is only on occasion. Never had even a hickup with either one.
My sister has a slim and it already has had some overheating issues. Sent back to sony and got a refurb, it died 3 months later, same problem. On the 3rd for about 6 months now.
I opened the PS3 Slim (3001a). The sound difference - or lack thereof - between it and my 80GB E01 is deafening.
I can still watch Blu-Ray movies via my HDMI-to-DVI cord; I was afraid it might downrez the movie since it wasn't HDMI-to-HDMI.
So I will likely trade in my 80GB Fat at GameSpot for credit towards a second PS3 Slim (either 160GB or 320GB). I'll miss the 2 USB ports, but that's likely all.
The sound between the too is like the difference between night and day. Playing BF3 on the fat would sound like a jet was taking off in the room but playing it on the slim I had to check to see if the console was still running it was so quite!
Have to agree, the slims are considerably quieter and better at staying cool at lower fan settings (as you would expect). This chip die size is really what the ps3 should have debuted at, imo. They (and probably X360, alike) overextended a bit this generation on what technology could provide at the time of their introductions (considering apparent console lifespan and reliability issues).
On the slim I am using, the fan still gets to breathing hard after some game play, but not huffing and puffing nearly as hard or as loud as the original. The slim doesn't compare, however, when it comes to elegance of construction of the original. The slim just seems like a cheap plastic appliance in comparison with its dull, textured surface, membrane buttons, and loud/unmuffled optical drive.
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