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Design philosophy: clean, organized, and made of a piece. Also, anyone notice how the GDDR5 is arranged around the CPU? Wonder if it needs to be symmetrical or that's just another elegant solution.

That's how it's usually arranged on GPUs, it keeps the distance between the GPU and any memory bank relatively constant. If they arranged them in a row the further chips would perform worse than the closer ones. When you're measuring latency in nano or picoseconds, a few extra cm for the signal to travel makes a difference. Physics!
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46 here & not getting a One nor PS4 on launch day, but I got a story. smile.gif


It was the 19th or 20th of Dec in '80. I had finally convinced my mother to get me an Atari (none of that '2600' nomenclature yet). We lived in a suburb of Dayoton, OH & there was not a single unit to be found in all of Montgomery county. At the tender age of 12, I let my fingers do the walking & I found some at a Service Merchandise in Cincinnati (read Florence Kentucky at the Florence Y'all biggrin.gif)). If you are old enough, then you remember how brutally cold that particuler winter was in the midwest. Undaunted, my Patron Saint of a Mother (LOL) drove us down there to get , if memory serves, one of about 4 or 5 left. Frankly, Pong & that tank game were not really worth it, but it is one of my best X-mas memories. cool.gif
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Its funny how the Atari had a box for your character in Adventure or a slightly more shaped box as a tank in Combat and was good. Now were debating thread count on a soldiers clothes in a game. My how things have changed but its been great seeing it all. Now, down to business, are we there yet? biggrin.gif
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Not sure where you're getting your info DI, but external drives do work the the PS4.

TyrantII, I included my source (the official Sony PS4 FAQ) in my post.

External drives are not supported in any fashion other than for "safe mode" installs of OS updates. Sony has been super clear about that. Sony has also not given any indications that they plan to change that policy though they *might* reconsider DLNA support sometime in the future.

Where are you getting your information?

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Its funny how the Atari had a box for your character in Adventure or a slightly more shaped box as a tank in Combat and was good. Now were debating thread count on a soldiers clothes in a game. My how things have changed but its been great seeing it all. Now, down to business, are we there yet? biggrin.gif

Wow - great post. You are so right.

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Fun bit of Trivia from Famousmortimer on the future of the Playstation brand.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=88931829

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Oh my, more pics of PS4s ready to go. Maybe they should have pushed the launch to tomorrow. biggrin.gif

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Oh my, more pics of PS4s ready to go. Maybe they should have pushed the launch to tomorrow. biggrin.gif

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=88930685

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So, Resogun and Contrast are both November games for PS+ right ? Will Sony have anything in December for PS4 owners with PS+ ? Not that I'm complaining, it's just normally they have something every single month and if those two games are November, then what are they doing in December...
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So, Resogun and Contrast are both November games for PS+ right ? Will Sony have anything in December for PS4 owners with PS+ ? Not that I'm complaining, it's just normally they have something every single month and if those two games are November, then what are they doing in December...

They haven't announced any IGC plans for the PS4 beyond Resogun and Contrast in November, so no idea if there will be a rotation of games or how many PS4 games total will be in the IGC on a regular basis.
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Wait Contrast is also on ps+ free? Darn it I preordered it on steam and already have it sitting on my harddrive waiting for release date. (insert price is right loser music)
All these ps4 pictures have me salivating. They could have a special release in parts where the consumer has to ikea it all together themselves. Save that buck two eighty five or so on assembly cost.
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There will be no shortage of ps4's. Local Best Buy I use to work for is getting them by the hundreds and have them already. They were able to start selling everything but the consoles. The controllers and games are all out and ready to buy, just can't snag the console yet. Well some can't :P Sony has been rolling out updates left and right. I'm not much of a gamer but picked it up for the 4k movie's just like I did the ps3 for being the only 7.1 surround sound blu ray player at the time. I grabbed all my stuff last night stopping in to say hi to everyone and went in back and there are huge stocks. If someone can't get one feel free to PM and I'll get ya one and ship it overnight but not willing to snag any before the launch date. This was my first pre-order and only did it b/c I used my employee discount at the time to save some money before I left the company. Seemed to work out pretty well. Slowly switching over to all 4k HT equipment but making sure it all has or capable of being upgraded to HDMI 2.0, was an early adapter of 1080p and picked the wrong frame rate so waiting a little while before I go up to 4k but thinking I'm going to grab a projector this time since I need something around 75" or larger. I'm ok at games and fun to spend time with my nephews but this is more for movies than gaming for me. Always been a fan of playstation and have owned them all but never at launch.
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I really hope Amazon puts the PS4 inside another box before shipping them out and doesn't just slap a shipping label on the PS4 box. That's what they did with the last 2 BD players I ordered. They weren't damaged or anything but, I'd like the PS4 box to be free of UPS/FedEx labels. I have a feeling that they are going to just slap a label on it and shove it out the door.

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I really hope Amazon puts the PS4 inside another box before shipping them out and doesn't just slap a shipping label on the PS4 box. That's what they did with the last 2 BD players I ordered. They weren't damaged or anything but, I'd like the PS4 box to be free of UPS/FedEx labels. I have a feeling that they are going to just slap a label on it and shove it out the door.

I was thinking the same thing. I also don't like people being able to tell what it is....I'm just paranoid like that.
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My PS3 slim and bluray player both came in a seperate box. The only thing I have ever had shipped in it's normal box has been TVs.

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They haven't announced any IGC plans for the PS4 beyond Resogun and Contrast in November, so no idea if there will be a rotation of games or how many PS4 games total will be in the IGC on a regular basis.

Don't forget about outlast and don't starve next year.

To be fair, there are hardly any games other than indie stuff coming for PS4 after launch, probably until next holiday. There's gonna be a huge drought all of next year, so it's not like they've got this massive pile of games to choose from.

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Fun bit of Trivia from Famousmortimer on the future of the Playstation brand.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=88931829

Yeah that'd be crazy for them to axe the PS division. I could see them spinning SCE off but dang that'd be weird if it happened. Same with MS and the Xbox. So many rumors of investors wanting these divisions spun off so they can focus on core competencies.
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TyrantII, I included my source (the official Sony PS4 FAQ) in my post.

External drives are not supported in any fashion other than for "safe mode" installs of OS updates. Sony has been super clear about that. Sony has also not given any indications that they plan to change that policy though they *might* reconsider DLNA support sometime in the future.

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Same place. There's no info there on thumb drives at all...
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Yes, you will be able to download the firmware to your PC and transfer it to PS4 using a USB memory stick. However, to use the USB method the first time you take PS4 out of the box and before installing system software update 1.50, you’ll need to enable safe mode. When PS4 is powered off, press and hold the Power Button for seven seconds to enter safe mode. Note: Users should only update using official files downloaded from PlayStation.com.

I have 90% confidence USB drives will work, as it's been confirmed several times in interviews. The above is just to update the FW from the barebones launch FW.

HID Keyboards work. Sounds like HID USB controllers will, but more complex ones need support. No support for mouse at launch, same as PS3.
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Yeah that'd be crazy for them to axe the PS division. I could see them spinning SCE off but dang that'd be weird if it happened. Same with MS and the Xbox. So many rumors of investors wanting these divisions spun off so they can focus on core competencies.

Value Act is playing dirty and gaining powerful friends now that they are on the board. Xbox is in danger now, there is no debating that. If it stumbles out of the gate and the new CEO is the one they are pulling for... the next year is going to be very interesting for Xbox.

Playstation was in danger at the first of the year based on this, but that danger seems to have passed thanks to the insane preorders. They also lack hostile investors to the playstation brand (those investors wanted to sell the movie division off for a quick profit, nothing more) so there is no constant pressure to get rid of it. Only if it turns into another PS3 and loses money by the truck load.

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Amazon never ships CE naked, unless they're too big to do so (basically TV's). Someone on neogif that works at a amazon warehouse already confirmed they'll be put in nondescript boxes as well.
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You guys are old, I need to find me some younger gamers. I got a few months left to join the under 35 club.

I'm your huckleberry. lol

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My Killzone 3 PS3 slim bundle came in a non-descript box. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Amazon never ships CE naked, unless they're too big to do so (basically TV's).

That's a lie as I just mention I ordered 2 BD players back in July that both came naked with the shipping label right on the player's box (both where sold by Amazon LLC, not a third party vendor). If you want, I'll take a picture of my Panasonic box when I get home showing the shipping label. Don't have the Sony 790 anymore because I sent that cheap plastic junk of a BD player back the very next day (got the Panasonic BDT500 instead).

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That's a lie as I just mention I ordered 2 BD players back in July that both came naked with the shipping label right on the player's box (both where sold by Amazon LLC, not a third party vendor). If you want, I'll take a picture of my Panasonic box when I get home showing the shipping label. Don't have the Sony 790 anymore because I sent that cheap plastic junk of a BD player back the very next day (got the Panasonic BDT500 instead).

Yikes. I've never gotten anything from Amazon like that.

Well here's hoping! Maybe different distribution centers have different policy? Leaving CE boxes naked on doorsteps is never a good idea.... no matter the neighborhood.
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I just wanted to say, that I appreciate all the great info in this thread. I also really enjoy reading all the gaming stories. Keep up the good vibes, only a few more days!
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I deleted my previous post about amazon packaging when I thought maybe I was wrong. But I have received a few things that were in manufacturer box and I couldn't remember of CE stuff was.

I still have no expectations that they will be boxed.
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We going to get PS4 game reviews Tuesday? I know there are some out now but I'm curious if Knack and f2p titles will be up or no.
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Amazon posted this to their facebook. It feels like Indiana Jones meets PS4.

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Amazon posted this to their facebook. It feels like Indiana Jones meets PS4.


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