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post #12871 of 18669 Old 02-03-2014, 07:14 AM
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I just didn't like the examaple I downloaded. The frame rate jumps were very noticeable to me in the example. If they ever have a demo I'll try it out. But I've already decided I'll just wait to pick up this title. Maybe late Spring, if the price has gone down. Or if I'm really lucky a PS+ title.

And on that note, are the February PS+ titles available yet?

You said this in the other thread, what did you play them back with? I assume you're referring to Digital Foundry content?

The videos you downloaded would have to have been:

1) Available in a frame rate higher than 30fps
2) Played back in software or hardware at higher than 30fps

If you take content that is higher than 30fps but then play it back at a locked 30fps you will get tearing which will make it look poor. This is supposedly what happened in PS4's COD: Ghosts at time. It was actually running greater than 60fps at times but with a output of no more than 60fps possible it caused tearing which is bad. Tearing sucks.

A 30fps to 24fps drop is going to be way way more noticeable than a 60 fps to 35 fps drop.

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Those lines are starting to blur though. Games are looking more lifelike each year, and the motion-blur is getting increasingly high quality.

I agree but it's still something rendered. Something rendered versus recorded footage is going to be a demarcation for quite awhile.

Even something as good as pixar films, watching them at higher than 24fps doesn't put off the soap opera effect. It's just not the same as actual real life footage. Something about it.

As long as something is rendered, I don't think higher framerates are going to be a cinematic issue.

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And I see it's been over 53 hours now since Amazon got the PS4 in stock. They still have at least 999 available. So maybe the drought is actually over here in the US. Well almost over. I see BestBuy still doesn't list any in stock online.
I'm glad they did since I just pulled the trigger for one this morning. I had two Amazon gift cards I was holding on to, and I got a bonus from work. I decided to order now since they had them and before I or my wife spend the bonus on something else. I'll pick up Killzone to play today or tomorrow. The two I am waiting for are Infamous Second Son and The Order: 1886.

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FW 1.60 incoming tonight / tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Envisager_/status/430340132663595008
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#PS4 firmware update tomorrow (v1.60) bringing Pulse Headset support, general stability improvements and ability to mute camera.

Probably more documented and undocumented changes as well.
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FW 1.60 incoming tonight / tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Envisager_/status/430340132663595008
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#PS4 firmware update tomorrow (v1.60) bringing Pulse Headset support, general stability improvements and ability to mute camera.

Probably more documented and undocumented changes as well.

Sweet! Can't wait for my wireless headset to be wireless again....
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Digital Foundry did one of their comparisons between the new consoles in terms of the better media player. I personally would have preferred they waited until the first round of major updates to give each a chance to bring up the media player aspects of the system since I assume both treated media playback as a lower priority than gaming.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-ps4-vs-xbox-one-which-is-the-better-media-player
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The XBOne also doesn't send out 96Khz audio from a BD. When playing a 96Khz audio track the output is still at 48Khz. The PS4 does this correctly. I'm talking about when sending 7.1 PCM from both consoles.

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You said this in the other thread, what did you play them back with? I assume you're referring to Digital Foundry content?

The videos you downloaded would have to have been:

1) Available in a frame rate higher than 30fps
2) Played back in software or hardware at higher than 30fps

If you take content that is higher than 30fps but then play it back at a locked 30fps you will get tearing which will make it look poor. This is supposedly what happened in PS4's COD: Ghosts at time. It was actually running greater than 60fps at times but with a output of no more than 60fps possible it caused tearing which is bad. Tearing sucks.

A 30fps to 24fps drop is going to be way way more noticeable than a 60 fps to 35 fps drop.

Whatever video I downloaded, one was in 1080P60 and the other was in 1080P30. i never saw any tearing in the examples. It just wasn't smooth with the framerate jumping between 60 and 45. But this is just from the video I downloaded. I would rather play the actual game first to see how it looks first hand. But until there is a demo, this will not be possible.

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FW 1.60 incoming tonight / tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Envisager_/status/430340132663595008
Probably more documented and undocumented changes as well.

I have the model prior to the pulse. I hope it also works.
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FW 1.60 incoming tonight / tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Envisager_/status/430340132663595008
Probably more documented and undocumented changes as well.

As long as the BSOD/CE error is gone I'll be happy. If they threw in 3D bluray support I wouldn't need anything else from my PS4 biggrin.gif

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Heh, that load time...it's beta, will let it slide. Hopefully games are up and running within a minute or so.

Oddly, if you look when caster is selecting KZ3 it shows a "disc only" indication under the title. Curious what that means/points to.

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And I see it's been over 53 hours now since Amazon got the PS4 in stock. They still have at least 999 available. So maybe the drought is actually over here in the US. Well almost over. I see BestBuy still doesn't list any in stock online.

I think the drought is close to over. Best Buy had it in stock locally for several days last week, and I came close to pulling the trigger for local pick-up. I resisted as I was going to wait for a major firmware update, but I've had three PS4 games since November. A few days later it was still in stock in the next town over, so I bought one. I got tired of waiting for Newegg to sell them sans bundle, so I decided to pay the sales tax and reward Best Buy for selling them 'clean'. A few more days of enjoying the 'new box' smell, then I'll open her up and set her on the kitchen table for ogling before installing it this weekend. smile.gif

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BestBuy is sold out in all stores in the greater Bay Area still according to the website. My local Target had none (large stack of XB1s though!). No doubt some places are getting stock, Amazon finally got a large shipment (currently #1 in gaming).

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BestBuy is sold out in all stores in the greater Bay Area still according to the website. My local Target had none (large stack of XB1s though!). No doubt some places are getting stock, Amazon finally got a large shipment (currently #1 in gaming).

Oh they were at one point briefly, but you are right I just checked a non have them around me either (silicon valley area). All but 2 stores have Xbox One's in stock.

My search brings up these 10 stores which is a pretty big section of the Bay Area . Choosing San Franciso instead of my zip brings up all sold out as well for 10 closest to San Francisco range. 1 store sold out of Xbox One's.

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FW 1.60 incoming tonight / tomorrow: https://twitter.com/Envisager_/status/430340132663595008
Probably more documented and undocumented changes as well.

Yeehaw!

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We can finally mute the camera!! WTH?

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Finally picked up my PS4 today as my Gamestop had some in stock, got AC IV as well. Looking forward to getting this thing hooked up and start playing.
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We can finally mute the camera!! WTH?

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I have the model prior to the pulse. I hope it also works.

I had the same quesiton (as the proud owner of the original wireless Sony bluetooth headset). So I did some digging online and found a response by a Sony staffer in the comments section of the Official US Playstation Blog:

"Yes, our previous PlayStation wireless stereo headset will work on PS4 with the update!"

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/02/03/ps4-system-update-1-60-official-headset-support-gold-wireless-headset-out-soon/

I'm officially very, very excited for this firmware update.
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Awesome! Thanks for finding that!
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Really hope there's some extra goodies and bug fixes in this. Just being able to export media to USB would be a huge one, that seems so simple.
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Anyone else notice the left thumb-stick on DS4 has worn down form use? Specifically less rubberized grip feeling?

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Anyone else notice the left thumb-stick on DS4 has worn down form use? Specifically less rubberized grip feeling?

Have tried cleaning it with alcohol or something else? I noticed it can get a little slippery if your hands get a little "wet" during heavy action. Hmmm, that didn't sound right... smile.gif

Anyway, maybe oil from your hand perspiration can build up on the surface.
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No my broken trigger controller is starting to have left stick wear too. Very faint but the guy at Gamestop pointed it out. Very long thread on GAF too.
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Anyone else notice the left thumb-stick on DS4 has worn down form use? Specifically less rubberized grip feeling?

I haven't gamed enough to have it happen but I have read it is an issue with the new analog sticks
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My right trigger broke a few days ago. I didn't want to pay shipping to sony to get it fixed. Bought a new controller at Target and replaced the new controller with the broken one. Went back the next day and told them the controller was bad and got a refund. Out of all the systems I've had this is the first controller that has broke. It's pretty bad when a controller isn't even 3 months old and breaks. Sony needs to address this problem it's only going to get worse.

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What is the SOny warranty on the controller? Or is it covered by the extended warranty on the console?

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What is the SOny warranty on the controller? Or is it covered by the extended warranty on the console?

About to find out on mine. Dash's idea won't work for me. Evidently my broken controller saw the most use even though I rotated them. The busted one has wear on the bottom sticker.
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From other post on other websites Sony wants you to ship the controller to them. You have to pay the shipping and then you have to wait to get it back. I didn't want to pay the shipping and then have to wait to get it back. Sony will get that controller from Target and I bypass the whole mess. They didn't even take the controller out of the box to look at it. They asked if I wanted another one or a refund.

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