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He said pulled out.... And made a mess

Prematurely at that.
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The thing about Microsoft is this.
They have so much cash that they could have left the XB1 "Vision" completely intact and changed nothing that was announced when they unveiled it.
If they believed in their "vision" they should not have backed down.

But as they always do, they pulled out prematurely and now they made a mess.

Cash that is spread across multiple divisions, many of which are playing catchup to their competitors.

Microsoft may be a multi-billion dollar corp, but that doesn't mean Xbox has a billion dollar check to spend.

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Xbox burns 10 billion to earn 11 billion.

Windows and office burn 10 billion each to earn 25 billion each.

That gap in profit is why investors have been so vocal. The Xbox Brand has yet to break even on the losses of Xbox Original and RROD, they may be off the books but they aren't forgotten.

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Given the perception of the Xbox One, the fact that Xbox turned a 10% return isn't bad at all.

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To do that the disc would need to have DRM. And MS got crucified when they had announced plans like that. Personally I was all for it since it could have made things easier.

We've discussed this before. DRM doesn't necessitate always online. DRM doesn't have to be as prohibitive as MS were implementing it. This wasn't DRM to protect them from piracy, this was DRM to limit a secondary/rental market.

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Hahaha lol wtf? From Microsoft:

" Another reason why the Xbox One has fallen behind the PS4 in terms of sales so far is because, according to Mehdi, Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do, so they are less inclined to upgrade."

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-is-the-ps4-outselling-the-xbox-one-microsoft-weighs-in/1100-6419622/
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http://segmentnext.com/2014/05/15/ps4-camera-price-increased-sony-69-99/

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Rumor has it that Sony is going to increase the price of the PlayStation 4 camera by $10 making it a total of $69.99.

This price was leaked in the Sony’s Road to Greatness sweepstakes list, which you can see in detail below:

PRIZE: The confirmed winner will receive a PlayStation® prize pack, consisting of one (1) of each of the following items:

PlayStation 4 entertainment system, average retail value (“ARV”) is $399;

DualShock 4 controller, ARV is $59.99;

PlayStation 4 entertainment system camera, ARV is $69.99.

PS4 camera ran out of stock just after it became available and retail store GameStop was already selling the device for $69.99 whenever it felt that the stock was low.
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ARV is not the same as MSRP. They are just using Gamestop's price in that fine print.

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If a $10 addon price raise is the worst thing we get...meh. Douchey move if true but not the end of the world.
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Hahaha lol wtf? From Microsoft:

" Another reason why the Xbox One has fallen behind the PS4 in terms of sales so far is because, according to Mehdi, Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do, so they are less inclined to upgrade."

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-is-the-ps4-outselling-the-xbox-one-microsoft-weighs-in/1100-6419622/

This will haunt me in the xbone thread (actually those 7 words will) but my story is the opposite. Last June (2013) I had a 3 game backlog on 360 with Kinect & Gold sub and a 25 game backlog on PS3 with PSeye & 2 Moves & PS+ sub and knew I had to trade in one of my consoles and its accessories to get the PS4.

So MS thinks Zath and Spyder just really enjoy their 360s.
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I enjoyed my 360 immensely for many, many years but, that didn't stop me from trading it in and putting it towards a PS4. Microsoft's boneheaded decisions and horrible original plan are why I didn't consider the "One" and, IMO, the PS4 is just a better console.

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yea. pretty much the kind of comments I expect from MS , if you can't beat them deny they are really beating you... I never owned a Sony product until the PS4 and my decision had nothing to do with the 360, Kinect or Price . It was about the XB1. They can keep it
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Hahaha lol wtf? From Microsoft:

" Another reason why the Xbox One has fallen behind the PS4 in terms of sales so far is because, according to Mehdi, Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do, so they are less inclined to upgrade."

Link link:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-is-the-ps4-outselling-the-xbox-one-microsoft-weighs-in/1100-6419622/

Hilarious.

Another possible explanation is that more people with 360's decided to jump ship to the PS4 BECAUSE IT IS THE MORE POWERFUL CONSOLE?!?!?!?
AND THEY DON'T WANT AN XBOX-TIVO-CABLE BOX NSA SPY PORTAL!!!!!

huff....puff.....sorry I can't take the arrogance.....where's my inhaler??
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I enjoyed my 360 immensely for many, many years but, that didn't stop me from trading it in and putting it towards a PS4. Microsoft's boneheaded decisions and horrible original plan are why I didn't consider the "One" and, IMO, the PS4 is just a better console.

Did the exact same thing. Owned 4 360s and a PS3 last gen. Own a PS4 now and have no plans to buy a One.

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Hahaha lol wtf? From Microsoft:

" Another reason why the Xbox One has fallen behind the PS4 in terms of sales so far is because, according to Mehdi, Xbox 360 owners enjoy their systems more than PlayStation 3 owners do, so they are less inclined to upgrade."

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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-is-the-ps4-outselling-the-xbox-one-microsoft-weighs-in/1100-6419622/


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never owned anything other than the basic controller, but i am thinking of buying this... any reason i shouldn't?? or anyone have any experience with these??

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Given the perception of the Xbox One, the fact that Xbox turned a 10% return isn't bad at all.

That was from before the Xbox One, when the 360 was at the top of it's game. (It also includes all entertainment devices like Surface and Windows Phone, plus their Android Patent income)

Microsoft's fiscal year ands in June iirc, so we have to wait for updated numbers.

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What is up w Yahoo always being in bed with Xbox? Three stories in my mobile news feed.

"Microsoft will ofer XBOX live refunds after making Netflx and other apps free"
"Top 10 xbox games"
and
"Sony's deadweight divisions drag down Playstation 4"

I remember just subsequent to the next-gen systems launch, two different "reviews" from guys who said they thought the XBONE was the better system, and I probably see three XBONE articles for every PS4.
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We need to get more interviews of all these MS execs, pure gold. When the head of the Xbox division just figured out that people like to play games with a controller you know great things are in store for the future.

Phil Spencer : "We've also heard from people that they just like to play games with a controller in their hand."

I wish John Stewart did video game material on his show. Perfect material biggrin.gif
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It reminds me a lot of the PS3 days with overconfident Sony. Microsoft is even shaving off $100 in the same time frame...

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never owned anything other than the basic controller, but i am thinking of buying this... any reason i shouldn't?? or anyone have any experience with these??


1. NEW SCUF HOOK PADDLES 4PS – RE-ENGINEERED & PATENT PENDING
2. TOTALLY RE-ENGINEERED SCUF BACK - PATENTED & FITTED FOR PADDLE USAGE
3. SCUF PRECISION THUMBSTICKS – DOMED OR CONCAVE / 3 DIFFERENT LENGTHS (REGULAR, MEDIUM, LONG), MULTIPLE COLORS
4. SCUF CONTROL DISC – HIT MULTI-FUNCTIONS OF THE DPAD FOR INCREASED ACCURACY & CONTROL
5. ELECTRO-MAGNETIC REMAPPING – REASSIGN PADDLES WITH OUR PATENTED EMR : PERFECT FOR MULTIPLE GAMES
6. PRO-GRIP HANDLES – BUILT-IN, HIGH-GRADE, AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT COLORS
7. CUSTOMIZE YOUR SCUF CONTROLLER 4PS – EVEN MORE THAN EVER BEFORE



I am waiting for the EMR to finally be out. I have a feeling that come June the EMR wont be ready and the controller will be sold without it. I have been waiting for about 3 months for the EMR on the X1 controller. Every month they say next month. I think now they say "Not available at this time". If I am going to drop that kind of cash on a controller then I will wait for it. But its good to see the PS4 one in the works.

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I am waiting for the EMR to finally be out. I have a feeling that come June the EMR wont be ready and the controller will be sold without it. I have been waiting for about 3 months for the EMR on the X1 controller. Every month they say next month. I think now they say "Not available at this time". If I am going to drop that kind of cash on a controller then I will wait for it. But its good to see the PS4 one in the works.

thanks, they are saying it will launch with EMR, guess we will see...
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Question for you guys: I'm going to buy a ps vita from a family member that he got for Christmas of 2012 if it supports remote play. Does that version of the vita have remote play or is that a more recent feature?
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All Vitas support remote play. Just make sure you have the latest firmware installed.

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All Vitas support remote play. Just make sure you have the latest firmware installed.
great and it's a good deal. 150 for the vita, 8 gig card, and 5 games.
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Nice, but you will likely want to get a 32 GB card to not have to juggle games very often. Unfortunately, $65 for the card at Amazon is about the best price right now (down from $100 a year ago). When good sales hit, you can find them for $40 or so; it's up to you to wait or buy now if you choose to upgrade.
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smile.gif Hopefully this leads to future consoles still keeping games on physical media.

http://www.destructoid.com/npd-three-out-of-four-us-gamers-prefer-physical-games-274838.phtml

NPD: Three out of four US gamers prefer physical games

Without physical discs, how is my girlfriend going to know what a complete Fn' nerd I am?

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Without physical discs, how is my girlfriend going to know what a complete Fn' nerd I am?

Hahaha...

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Without physical discs, how is my girlfriend going to know what a complete Fn' nerd I am?

Hahaha...

I'm sure she's already figured it out😏
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