PlayStation 4 - Page 586 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 1455Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #17551 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 10:56 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
lordxar5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,254
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1158 Post(s)
Liked: 929
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post
I'd rather it was the publisher, since I have more of a multiplatform bent. Even worse, on the consoles the subscription is being tied to a multiplayer paywall, which practically makes it mandatory. The more we ask of these subs, the more we're going to have to pay...I don't like the idea of buying a $400 console and then having a $10-15 monthly fee on top of it. The reason I dropped cable years ago is because so much stuff I don't want is bundled together and the price became outrageous.
Cable...good example. I was thinking along the lines Scuba was until you brought that part up. I'm sick of subs but bundling them has its demerits too.
lordxar5 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #17552 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 10:58 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
lordxar5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,254
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1158 Post(s)
Liked: 929
Quote:
Originally Posted by emartins View Post
Deal, I like my steak medium rare please. Grass fed also. Thanks, see you in November.
Look at you mister mamby pamby grass fed and still bleeding!
lodolfan, slyderulz, Nayan and 1 others like this.
lordxar5 is offline  
post #17553 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:06 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
rolltide1017's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Montgomery, AL
Posts: 3,353
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Liked: 456
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post
I remember them saying they *could* use gaikai to let you try games, not promise that they would. And I def don't remember them say you could try it for *free*.
Found it, called Full Game Trials, still listed as a feature on the PlayStation website. Granted it doesn't say every game but, almost a year in and no sign of this feature at all. Now EA wants to charge on top of your Live/PS+ fee (if Access was coming to PS) for a feature that Sony said they were going to include with PS+. This may be why Sony turned them down.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...ions-answered/

So Crystal Dynamics just said no thank you to 10 million potential customers (yes, I know many folks own both, I'm just being dramatic). I hope that MS paycheck was huge.

PSN ID: CrimsonNagus
XBL GT: Crimson Nagus (returning to XBL with Xbox One X)
rolltide1017 is offline  
 
post #17554 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:11 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1176 Post(s)
Liked: 970
PS4 system software update 2.00 will introduce Share Play, which will enable you to virtually pass your controller to a friend

One of the greatest posts I have read

benjamin-benjami - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/142-pl...l#post24609271
emartins is offline  
post #17555 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:12 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1176 Post(s)
Liked: 970
Small is big: Pint-sized PlayStation TV launches in North America on October 14th, more details here: http://t.co/ZfdSUcnUc7

One of the greatest posts I have read

benjamin-benjami - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/142-pl...l#post24609271
emartins is offline  
post #17556 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:18 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Epyon415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,011
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by TedSeattle View Post
Crystal Dynamics has announced that Rise of the Tomb Raider will be an XBox exclusive:

http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/94...-raider-update
So they made the TR: Def Ed to improve sales overall...now they are releasing this on a platform that is being outsold 3:1....like, did they really think that one through? Was Titanfall not a solid example of what to expect? I mean ****, Crytek recently came out basically stating Ryse 2 is on hold because of poor sales.

Sigh...(yes I am butthurt), such bad decisions over at SE these days. How the mighty have fallen.

PSN/XBL/Steam/Etc: Epyon415
Twitter: @roguengames
YouTube Gameplay Video
Epyon415 is offline  
post #17557 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:19 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Abaddon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 3,058
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 668 Post(s)
Liked: 637
I am a little surprised Crystal Dynamics is doing this... and frankly bummed. I had never played a Tomb Raider until the most recent one on PS4, and I liked it quite a bit. This cools my interest in future editions substantially...

It always disappoints me when we get 3rd party publishers that are platform agnostic being paid to be exclusive, just rubs me the wrong way. (In contrast I have no problem with stuff like Sunset Overdrive where it is being funded and published by MS, and Titanfall was a special case since MS stepped in and spent the money to finish the game when it was otherwise going to be cancelled. This feels different).

As someone else says, it must have been a big check...
Abaddon is offline  
post #17558 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:20 AM
Advanced Member
 
crippldogg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Yorktown, VA
Posts: 649
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post
Found it, called Full Game Trials, still listed as a feature on the PlayStation website. Granted it doesn't say every game but, almost a year in and no sign of this feature at all. Now EA wants to charge on top of your Live/PS+ fee (if Access was coming to PS) for a feature that Sony said they were going to include with PS+. This may be why Sony turned them down.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...ions-answered/

So Crystal Dynamics just said no thank you to 10 million potential customers (yes, I know many folks own both, I'm just being dramatic). I hope that MS paycheck was huge.
The PS3 has Free timed trials of some games, like 30 or so, for PS+. Haven't looked for it on ps4 though.

The Weekend Warriors
crippldogg is offline  
post #17559 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:25 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
d_m1010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northern Exposure Canada
Posts: 1,995
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
Liked: 184
TR is one of those reasons I bought the other console which I shall not name. That way, it matters not. Speaking of the two consoles, Digtal Foundary claims Diablo 3 runs better on the other one (pun intended), which is a switch.
d_m1010 is offline  
post #17560 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:35 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
mboojigga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Little Rock AFB, Arkansas
Posts: 9,136
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 647 Post(s)
Liked: 882
Quote:
Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post
Found it, called Full Game Trials, still listed as a feature on the PlayStation website. Granted it doesn't say every game but, almost a year in and no sign of this feature at all. Now EA wants to charge on top of your Live/PS+ fee (if Access was coming to PS) for a feature that Sony said they were going to include with PS+. This may be why Sony turned them down.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...ions-answered/

So Crystal Dynamics just said no thank you to 10 million potential customers (yes, I know many folks own both, I'm just being dramatic). I hope that MS paycheck was huge.
Xbox Live isn't a requirement to use EA Access. It goes without saying about the multiplayer portion of games in the vault you of course need Live.

The 5.0 is here
mboojigga is offline  
post #17561 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:39 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
bd2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 11,638
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 915 Post(s)
Liked: 1704
PlayStation 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
I am a little surprised Crystal Dynamics is doing this... and frankly bummed. I had never played a Tomb Raider until the most recent one on PS4, and I liked it quite a bit. This cools my interest in future editions substantially...

It always disappoints me when we get 3rd party publishers that are platform agnostic being paid to be exclusive, just rubs me the wrong way. (In contrast I have no problem with stuff like Sunset Overdrive where it is being funded and published by MS, and Titanfall was a special case since MS stepped in and spent the money to finish the game when it was otherwise going to be cancelled. This feels different).

As someone else says, it must have been a big check...

It'd be nice if they'd clarify whether it's a times or full exclusive...I'm guessing timed.

But yeah, this is the perfect example of why I've become so anti-console - they charge you a monthly fee for stuff that's free on open platforms, then take that money and spend it on exclusives to further lock you in. It's a vicious cycle, and you're essentially paying them to keep gamers divided.

Steam/PSN/Xbox Live: Darius510
bd2003 is offline  
post #17562 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:45 AM
Senior Member
 
Bigfame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Bernardino, CA
Posts: 275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Wow CD. I guess they don't want my $60 as I WAS going to buy TR day one on PC. I guess I'll wait until it's $7 (with all DLC) on one of Steam's Seasonal sales.

Those Who Attempt To Destroy Me, Shall Be Obliterated!!

Megatron
Bigfame is offline  
post #17563 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 11:57 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Epyon415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,011
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 403
so those who played Heavenly Sword...but is that Nariko's sister???


PSN/XBL/Steam/Etc: Epyon415
Twitter: @roguengames
YouTube Gameplay Video
Epyon415 is offline  
post #17564 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 12:34 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
benjamin-benjami's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: edmond, ok
Posts: 4,283
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 260 Post(s)
Liked: 799
Quote:
Originally Posted by emartins View Post
Deal, I like my steak medium rare please. Grass fed also. Thanks, see you in November.
oklahoma has great steaks... see you then
benjamin-benjami is offline  
post #17565 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 12:37 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
benjamin-benjami's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: edmond, ok
Posts: 4,283
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 260 Post(s)
Liked: 799
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epyon415 View Post
so those who played Heavenly Sword...but is that Nariko's sister???

http://youtu.be/vQ3SWggdafg
i really liked heavenly sword, i don't understand why it didn't sell well...
benjamin-benjami is offline  
post #17566 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 12:38 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Abaddon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 3,058
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 668 Post(s)
Liked: 637
Quote:
Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post
Speaking of the two consoles, Digtal Foundary claims Diablo 3 runs better on the other one (pun intended), which is a switch.
PS4 runs at 1080p and XB1 at 900p. Sounds like the PS4 version should have been at a lesser resolution. OTOH:

Quote:
Evidently, this isn't just down to the PS4's GPU struggling to render multiple enemies on-screen or complex scenes. Even with huge bursts of alpha effects and dozens of enemies flying from all angles, the console regularly proves it can hold up at 60fps where it counts - even in co-op multiplayer. This suggests a GPU bottleneck from running at 1080p is, in all likelihood, unlikely to be the cause. As a possibility, these dips may come down to Diablo 3's managing of background processes; CPU-side calculations, or asset streaming beyond the player's field of view.
XB1 is supposed to get a day-one update to 1080p, will be interesting to see if it can manage it better than the PS4 version or if it gets worse as a result.
Abaddon is offline  
post #17567 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:13 PM
UHD Addict
 
aaronwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge)
Posts: 31,308
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6421 Post(s)
Liked: 3966
Quote:
Originally Posted by icelt View Post
According to the Gamescom feed I glanced at Sony just announced that 10 million PS4's (or piss4's depending) have sold through world wide. We knew it was doing well but that number is still a bit of an O.O!
I thought everyone was expecting them to announce this? 11 million would have been a surprise.

53TB unRAID2--41TB unRAID3--35TB unRAID1a
Sony 65x850C--Sony UBP-X800--Onkyo HT-S7800
XBL/PSN: WormholeXtreme
aaronwt is offline  
post #17568 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:15 PM
UHD Addict
 
aaronwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Northern VA(Woodbridge)
Posts: 31,308
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6421 Post(s)
Liked: 3966
Quote:
Originally Posted by emartins View Post
PS4 system software update 2.00 will introduce Share Play, which will enable you to virtually pass your controller to a friend
What about Game Suspend? Has that finally been announced?

53TB unRAID2--41TB unRAID3--35TB unRAID1a
Sony 65x850C--Sony UBP-X800--Onkyo HT-S7800
XBL/PSN: WormholeXtreme
aaronwt is offline  
post #17569 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:16 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1176 Post(s)
Liked: 970
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post
oklahoma has great steaks... see you then

Only two things come from Oklahoma

One of the greatest posts I have read

benjamin-benjami - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/142-pl...l#post24609271
emartins is offline  
post #17570 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:16 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Epyon415's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,011
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by benjamin-benjami View Post
i really liked heavenly sword, i don't understand why it didn't sell well...
I remember the controls feeling a little janky at times, though I don't recall and performance hiccups. Think overall the title was released at the wrong time when install base was too low.

PSN/XBL/Steam/Etc: Epyon415
Twitter: @roguengames
YouTube Gameplay Video
Epyon415 is offline  
post #17571 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:16 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 5,503
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1176 Post(s)
Liked: 970
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
What about Game Suspend? Has that finally been announced?

Not yet

One of the greatest posts I have read

benjamin-benjami - http://www.avsforum.com/forum/142-pl...l#post24609271
emartins is offline  
post #17572 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 02:27 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
icelt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,377
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked: 516
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
I thought everyone was expecting them to announce this? 11 million would have been a surprise.
Guess I'm a little out of it then. I thought they'd be a little north of 9 mil.

This one reminds me a bit of that quirky PS1 adventure game, hell can't recall the name... ok found it Tail of the Sun.

freemeat likes this.
icelt is offline  
post #17573 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 03:01 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
bd2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 11,638
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 915 Post(s)
Liked: 1704
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
PS4 runs at 1080p and XB1 at 900p. Sounds like the PS4 version should have been at a lesser resolution. OTOH:



XB1 is supposed to get a day-one update to 1080p, will be interesting to see if it can manage it better than the PS4 version or if it gets worse as a result.

Actually the way it is makes sense..d3 is very poorly multithreaded, so it's a case where the slightly higher clocked CPU is making the difference. There's still an excess of GPU on the ps4, so they might as well raise the resolution.

Steam/PSN/Xbox Live: Darius510
bd2003 is offline  
post #17574 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 03:18 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
icelt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,377
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked: 516
Joke Kaz twitter account, funny pot shot from today!

https://twitter.com/KazHiraiCEO/stat...87317735956480

CEO Kaz Hirai ‏@KazHiraiCEO

Rise of the Tomb Raider is now exclusive to Xbox One. Square Enix clearly wants the game to be uncharted: as in, not entering the charts.
Epyon415 likes this.
icelt is offline  
post #17575 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 03:25 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Abaddon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 3,058
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 668 Post(s)
Liked: 637
Quote:
Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post
Actually the way it is makes sense..d3 is very poorly multithreaded, so it's a case where the slightly higher clocked CPU is making the difference. There's still an excess of GPU on the ps4, so they might as well raise the resolution.
That does make some sense, but the CPU difference is pretty small, it seems hard to believe it can result in such a big difference. I guess if it's really close to borderline on XB1 then the small difference could cause it to just miss an update when it's running on PS4 and then you've lost 16ms of time until the next render frame...
Abaddon is offline  
post #17576 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 03:30 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
icelt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,377
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked: 516
New Drive Club gif's. Pretty tasty looking, hopefully the PS+ version won't be totally neutered.

Edit...
Ok although they looked cool even I was starting to get a headache from the frenetic camera cuts.

Anyway probably better as a HQ trailer:
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dr...-32705_en.html

Last edited by icelt; 08-12-2014 at 03:40 PM.
icelt is offline  
post #17577 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 04:11 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
bd2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 11,638
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 915 Post(s)
Liked: 1704
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
That does make some sense, but the CPU difference is pretty small, it seems hard to believe it can result in such a big difference. I guess if it's really close to borderline on XB1 then the small difference could cause it to just miss an update when it's running on PS4 and then you've lost 16ms of time until the next render frame...

Ya, although the way they're doing it is really weird...the background still scrolls at 60fps, but the animation drops down. It's sorta clever, but it's still just a hack.

It is kind of a unique situation though....D3 was never designed with consoles in mind, so they coded it assuming they'd be working with 2 powerful CPU cores vs. 3-6 weak cores. I'm not even sure two jaguar cores would meet the min requirements for D3 on PC.

Steam/PSN/Xbox Live: Darius510
bd2003 is offline  
post #17578 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 04:42 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
lordxar5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,254
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1158 Post(s)
Liked: 929
Watched the xbone show...was ok. Sunset Overdrive is looks a little better than my first thoughts. After that I'm excited for COD still. Kinda wish I'd held out for the COD box now. Enough of that. Bloodborne holy sheet that still looks freakin awesome!! LBP is looking good too. Have yet to watch the rest...
lordxar5 is offline  
post #17579 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 04:52 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
PENDRAG0ON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 9,490
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 579
I wonder just how much money Microsoft coughed up for that exclusive deal? The PS3 version outsold the 360 version worldwide and the PS4 version more than doubled the XBOs sales... it had to be stupid expensive. And for what? A game that will move less than a million units on their hardware? Square truly has gone stupid at this point.

I paid $60 day one for the PS4 remaster, I'll be buying this one used once it hits PS4. (Which it will, that 10 million figure is too hard to ignore)

After all, the first to 10 million always wins.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2008/may08/05-14360first10pr.aspx

(And he wasn't wrong, Wii beat them to 10 million)

Last edited by PENDRAG0ON; 08-12-2014 at 04:56 PM.
PENDRAG0ON is offline  
post #17580 of 21095 Old 08-12-2014, 09:28 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
lordxar5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,254
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1158 Post(s)
Liked: 929
Just finished the Sony presentation. Wow talked about stacked. Wild looks neat...whatever it is. Tearaway looks fun in a LBP kind of way. Until Dawn, Ethan something or other, they just kept coming. Definitely a lot to look forward to.
lordxar5 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply PlayStation Area

Tags
Playstation 3 160gb System , Playstation 4 Camera , Playstation 4 Console , Playstation 4 Dualshock 4 Wireless Controller , Playstation 4 Games , Sony

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off