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Just finished the Sony presentation. Wow talked about stacked. Wild looks neat...whatever it is. Tearaway looks fun in a LBP kind of way. Until Dawn, Ethan something or other, they just kept coming. Definitely a lot to look forward to.
Yeah, fantastic showing for PS4 owners. Can't wait to play some if these games
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I don't use twitter, but I feel I should post some nasty comment to Crystal Dynamics or Square for that decision. Fully annoyed and it makes me want to not ever buy an xbone.

The wording of their explanation makes it sound like it's a permanent exclusive. Not a timed exclusive.


I suspect MS thinks this move will get them more hardware sales, but it has the opposite effect on me.
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I don't use twitter, but I feel I should post some nasty comment to Crystal Dynamics or Square for that decision. Fully annoyed and it makes me want to not ever buy an xbone.

The wording of their explanation makes it sound like it's a permanent exclusive. Not a timed exclusive.


I suspect MS thinks this move will get them more hardware sales, but it has the opposite effect on me.
it was a very smart decision on MS part, software moves hardware, i would have done the same thing if i was in MS shoes...
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Yep, any interest I had in Microsoft with all of their efforts over the past year to regain good will was flushed by this one move. They didn't even try to BS us with this one like they did Titanfall, they flat out admitted they paid to keep this off of Sony platforms. Microsoft will never get my gaming dollars again, they have proven that nothing has changed with them from the pre 180 Microsoft, all they did was replace their frontman.
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I don't use twitter, but I feel I should post some nasty comment to Crystal Dynamics or Square for that decision. Fully annoyed and it makes me want to not ever buy an xbone.

The wording of their explanation makes it sound like it's a permanent exclusive. Not a timed exclusive.


I suspect MS thinks this move will get them more hardware sales, but it has the opposite effect on me.
For me it doesn't matter . I doubt I would have purchased the game anyway, no matter what platform it's on. But if someone is mad with MS, shouldn't they be equally mad with the game maker too?
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For me it doesn't matter . I doubt I would have purchased the game anyway, no matter what platform it's on. But if someone is mad with MS, shouldn't they be equally mad with the game maker too?
And for that matter, equally mad when other companies buy off third party exclusive content, even if it's just DLC. It shouldn't matter to you whether or not you care about the title...maybe this game isn't the one you care about, but the next one will be.

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DLC doesn't matter if you can't play the game at all.... I get the general point but in the end people are getting burned out on DLC, at least I am. All these season passes and bs like that are getting to be too much. Then again I still have heartburn over buying the BF4 pass. Even TLoU with all the crap attached to it. Gah so sick of skins, and gun packs, and an extra hour of missions....shove it ffs. Just want to play! The only truly deserving DLC I'm proud to buy is for KZ. It is truly extra, is cheap, and supports a dev who did a tremendous job.

I get being pissed at Microsoft. They seem to try and create as much negative publicity as they possibly can and are, uh well moneyhatting these fun endeavors. Crystal Dynamics just took a hit to their payday. TR is good and has a nice player base, but now PC gamers are getting f'd too not just PS. Lets just say that if TF didn't generate console sale they honestly expect TR will? This was a boneheaded move though I'd bet its timed, their mot stupid are they? Hey lets pick the smallest install base of the three.

Actually though at the end of the day it won't matter one bit. After the Sony conference rolled out game after game this will be drowned out and forgotten. Xboners that buy it will enjoy it but my money is on it having mediocre sales when and if it comes to PS/PC. There's too much else out there.
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Anddddddd the other shoe drops.

Microsoft confirms Rise of the Tomb Raider Xbox exclusivity deal "has a duration"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...has-a-duration

Spoiler Tag'd for those who don't want to have to look at the wall of text, but the marketing double speak on display is rather impressive. "I can only talk about what I own, it's not my job to talk about what I don't own."

Spoiler!



Business wise, I mean you gotta do what you gotta do I guess. MS is getting their tails kicked, SE (iirc is in a less than ideal financial state) so if the former can steal a few coins from the Windows money trough and use it to garner a few more sales and some headlines by buying some finite exclusivity to the later's IP. Hell why not. This way SE gets a direct and up front cash infusion, business never hates this, MS gets the aforementioned headlines and for the most part gaming goes on as we know it.


Well that's my rational self talking. I still think MS is <expletive> at making gaming hardware and despise their general disdain for the gaming community, apart from how they can mine us for coin. Others will accuse Sony, Nintendo, et al of the same.


Regardless we still get great gaming software to enjoy, I suppose that's what matters most. But still.... effffff uuuuuuuuuuu m$!!!
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Yep, they both do it. Nintendo probably would too if they could.
Bayonetta 2

(though in that case, it was basically either Nintendo funds it or it never gets made)
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And for that matter, equally mad when other companies buy off third party exclusive content, even if it's just DLC. It shouldn't matter to you whether or not you care about the title...maybe this game isn't the one you care about, but the next one will be.
The only way I might get pissed off is if they made a game I wanted that used to be with Sony or MS, exclusive to the WiiU. Otherwise I have both a PS4 and XBOne so I'm covered if a game is only on one of those consoles. And I stopped playing games on PC nine years ago so I I can't see any game bringing me back to PC.
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Anddddddd the other shoe drops.

Microsoft confirms Rise of the Tomb Raider Xbox exclusivity deal "has a duration"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...has-a-duration

Spoiler Tag'd for those who don't want to have to look at the wall of text, but the marketing double speak on display is rather impressive. "I can only talk about what I own, it's not my job to talk about what I don't own."

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Business wise, I mean you gotta do what you gotta do I guess. MS is getting their tails kicked, SE (iirc is in a less than ideal financial state) so if the former can steal a few coins from the Windows money trough and use it to garner a few more sales and some headlines by buying some finite exclusivity to the later's IP. Hell why not. This way SE gets a direct and up front cash infusion, business never hates this, MS gets the aforementioned headlines and for the most part gaming goes on as we know it.


Well that's my rational self talking. I still think MS is <expletive> at making gaming hardware and despise their general disdain for the gaming community, apart from how they can mine us for coin. Others will accuse Sony, Nintendo, et al of the same.


Regardless we still get great gaming software to enjoy, I suppose that's what matters most. But still.... effffff uuuuuuuuuuu m$!!!
I figured it was a timed deal. Too many lost sales and money left if they don't sell it on other platforms.

I predict Summer 2016 for PS platforms with included DLC for $49.99, on PC for $39.99.
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i really don't understand the hate for MS on this, where was the outrage with N with bayonetta and rayman legends, what about sony and all their square exclusives, i didn't hear people ripping them for Kingdom hearts and final fantasy, i could keep giving example after example, but you get the point. I don't understand why this of all things is getting people worked up, especially with a company (square) that did exclusives with sony for years????

edit: and we just saw sony announce a bunch of exclusives!!
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i really don't understand the hate for MS on this, where was the outrage with N with bayonetta and rayman legends, what about sony and all their square exclusives, i didn't hear people ripping them for Kingdom hearts and final fantasy, i could keep giving example after example, but you get the point. I don't understand why this of all things is getting people worked up, especially with a company (square) that did exclusives with sony for years????



edit: and we just saw sony announce a bunch of exclusives!!


Bayonetta was a niche title, nobody cares about rayman, and once square went multiplatform they never went back. This is a total regression and I hope square ends up regretting ever making the deal.
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i really don't understand the hate for MS on this, where was the outrage with N with bayonetta and rayman legends, what about sony and all their square exclusives, i didn't hear people ripping them for Kingdom hearts and final fantasy, i could keep giving example after example, but you get the point. I don't understand why this of all things is getting people worked up, especially with a company (square) that did exclusives with sony for years????

edit: and we just saw sony announce a bunch of exclusives!!
Does Sony and Nintendo typically speak like this when explaining their exclusives?
It's not because I'm trying to be a headfake on anybody.

It is the attitude of deception and repetitive intents to obscurify that MS has brought to the table moreso than simply buying titles. Along with the other crap they've pulled in the past (X 360, the alpha console), the present (Xbone can't work without Kinect) and near future (TR2 is absolutely exclusive to the Xbone).

In a sea of asshats they are simply the most ass hatiest.
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i really don't understand the hate for MS on this, where was the outrage with N with bayonetta and rayman legends, what about sony and all their square exclusives, i didn't hear people ripping them for Kingdom hearts and final fantasy, i could keep giving example after example, but you get the point. I don't understand why this of all things is getting people worked up, especially with a company (square) that did exclusives with sony for years????

edit: and we just saw sony announce a bunch of exclusives!!
Microsoft's own cross platform play policies keep Final Fantasy 14 off the Xbox. I've said before and will uphold my opinion, paid exclusivity is bs and helps no one. If Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo foots the bill for Square to create a game for their platform ok. If Square creates a multiplat game and someone pays just to cblock the others I have an issue. Timed I'm ok with, meh whatever. I bi$%#ed a lot about TF which in the end wasn't completely warranted now that we've read about how crappy Respawn managed their big pile of money.

Sunset Overdrive, Halo, Forza, etc are all Microsoft's property. Gears of War was bought and paid for by Microsoft. I have zero problems with those but if TR had been fully exclusive I'd have passed it like a dead skunk. You don't reboot a game on many platforms just to lock the sequel off....were good though its just timed. Back to bi$%#ing about something else.

Edit: Sony used to own part of Square so eh...heh heh yea...
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Back to bi$%#ing about something else.


That damn LED on the controller is still to bright.

Is it still to early to this complaint back?
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That damn LED on the controller is still to bright.

Is it still to early to this complaint back?
Good call we have'nt had a few pages of LED issues in a while, though you should have lit the match when everything was quiet we've got Gamescom now.
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Good call we have'nt had a few pages of LED issues in a while, though you should have lit the match when everything was quiet we've got Gamescom now.
What is Gamescon? k?
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That damn LED on the controller is still to bright.

Is it still to early to this complaint back?
Agreed, and what about the battery life lol. I guess I'll have to buy a longer cable or extension.
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In the end I'll get to play Tomb Raider on the PS4 so I'm happy. It will suck having to wait a little bit but most likely it will look and run better on the PS4 if history is any indication.

So many good games in the pipeline and all the console makers pay for exclusives, it is just a business decision. I don't blame MS's for making moves trying to get people to go to their console.
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The damage is already done similar to X1 reveal before E3. Crystal Dynamic shot off both feet with this. Best they can hope for is 1 million sales on X1 and half that or more on PS4 once the triple-ultimate-extra-deep-fried-remastered-shake'n'bake edition is released that basically includes rights to any attempts of a 3rd game.

The biggest failure was in the delivery of the announcement. CD likely could've saved face had they said the game will be first released on Xbox platforms. Part of me wonders if after yesterday they called MS and started asking for damage control or tried to return the check and MS offered them timed exclusivity instead.

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German E3. Lots of games being revealed on both sides this week.

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The damage is already done similar to X1 reveal before E3. Crystal Dynamic shot off both feet with this. Best they can hope for is 1 million sales on X1 and half that or more on PS4 once the triple-ultimate-extra-deep-fried-remastered-shake'n'bake edition is released that basically includes rights to any attempts of a 3rd game.

The biggest failure was in the delivery of the announcement. CD likely could've saved face had they said the game will be first released on Xbox platforms. Part of me wonders if after yesterday they called MS and started asking for damage control or tried to return the check and MS offered them timed exclusivity instead.
That's the stupid part. I watched the Microsoft presentation and they clearly said coming to Xbox One first many times. Why they chose to skip that part on this one is mind numbing.
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That's the stupid part. I watched the Microsoft presentation and they clearly said coming to Xbox One first many times. Why they chose to skip that part on this one is mind numbing.
Lol, come 2015 the console sales will be 5:1 in favor of Sony and this will get "delayed" to 2016 for "enhancements" immediately followed by an E3 announcement of the simultaneous release on PS consoles.

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Ground Zeroes is just the $30 demo that was already released on the consoles, right? Phantom Pain is the full game, correct?
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Ground Zeroes is just the $30 demo that was already released on the consoles, right? Phantom Pain is the full game, correct?
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Thanks. Looking forward to seeing what the scope of the full game is and what kind of variety it has. Hopefully a heck of a lot more game play then MGS4. Pretty sure they said it would be a lot more in past interviews.
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