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Cravit8's Avatar Cravit8 08:26 AM 09-04-2014
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hahaha, I just got the Forza joke.

Cravit8's Avatar Cravit8 08:33 AM 09-04-2014
Does anyone actually think the PSN servers will not crash on Destiny launch day? I'm leaning towards not even bothering till the Friday afterwards.
What major game has released for PS4 that didn't have major downtime on release day?
icelt's Avatar icelt 08:43 AM 09-04-2014
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Does anyone actually think the PSN servers will not crash on Destiny launch day? I'm leaning towards not even bothering till the Friday afterwards.
What major game has released for PS4 that didn't have major downtime on release day?
Totally expect the servers to crash and things to generally be all mucked up for several days post launch. Welcome to the New Millennium!

And the subtle Forza joke is what makes that p-shop especially priceless, well combined with the fact the Xbox exec retweeted it w/o even batting an eye.
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 09:02 AM 09-04-2014
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Does anyone actually think the PSN servers will not crash on Destiny launch day? I'm leaning towards not even bothering till the Friday afterwards.
What major game has released for PS4 that didn't have major downtime on release day?

Call of duty always works....Activision has a pretty good track record.
aaronwt's Avatar aaronwt 09:13 AM 09-04-2014
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PS4 remote play on Sony Z3 / Z3 compact



http://au.ign.com/articles/2014/09/0...z3-smartphones

Shut up and take my money
??? That is actally a real device?

I don't even think you could pay me to use something like that.
Rgdeuce's Avatar Rgdeuce 10:13 AM 09-04-2014
I fully expect issues, gotten used to it at this point.

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Call of duty always works....Activision has a pretty good track record.
Been several years since I stopped messing with the COD games, and when I did play them it was on the 360, but I always experienced launch issues with COD games for at least several days.
mcclayton's Avatar mcclayton 10:23 AM 09-04-2014
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I fully expect issues, gotten used to it at this point.



Been several years since I stopped messing with the COD games, and when I did play them it was on the 360, but I always experienced launch issues with COD games for at least several days.
MW2 was the worst for me. Or the fact they were talking about record breaking pre-orders and stuff. And then the ps3 was unplayable for what seemed like a week. You'd think these companies would be better prepared.
mbroadus's Avatar mbroadus 10:34 AM 09-04-2014
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Yes, I use some auto switching HDMI switches. With my PS4 I currently have it on an auto 2x1 HDMI switch with my FireTV. I turn on the PS4 and it switches to that input. I turn it off and it switches back to the FireTV input. It's been working well with 36 bit Deep Color and 3D output from the PS4.
Great, thanks! I have a Monoprice 2X1 HDMI switcher at home but will probably reassign HDMI inputs on my Marantz receiver to: 1) Cable/Sat; 2) AppleTV; 3) PS3; & 4) PS4. Or do a complete switch to PS4 and put the PS3 on a different TV.
HockeyoAJB's Avatar HockeyoAJB 10:43 AM 09-04-2014
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??? That is actally a real device?

I don't even think you could pay me to use something like that.
It's a not a stand alone device. What you are looking at is a picture of Sony's new flagship Xperia Z3 android smartphone, mounted on a special PS4 Dualshock4 controller. The game you see is actually running on a PS4. The video is being sent from the PS4 to the phone via. Remote Play. The idea is that you can start playing a game in your game/living room on the big screen, get up and move about the house (e.g. use the bathroom, make dinner, etc.), using the phone as a display, and then go back to your game/living room, without having to stop playing. Basically, it allows you to use your phone to play full quality PS4 games, eliminating the need for a dedicated portable gaming device (at least in your house).
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 11:10 AM 09-04-2014
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I fully expect issues, gotten used to it at this point.



Been several years since I stopped messing with the COD games, and when I did play them it was on the 360, but I always experienced launch issues with COD games for at least several days.

There's usually a little bit of downtime here or there, maybe a little trouble keeping a party together on the first day. Never the kind of catastrophic failures for hours/days that you get with just about every other big launch.

I bet it'll be just fine.
Spanglo's Avatar Spanglo 11:13 AM 09-04-2014
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PS4 remote play on Sony Z3 / Z3 compact



http://au.ign.com/articles/2014/09/0...z3-smartphones

Shut up and take my money
Yes, and ditto for VR.
aaronwt's Avatar aaronwt 11:22 AM 09-04-2014
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It's a not a stand alone device. What you are looking at is a picture of Sony's new flagship Xperia Z3 android smartphone, mounted on a special PS4 Dualshock4 controller. The game you see is actually running on a PS4. The video is being sent from the PS4 to the phone via. Remote Play. The idea is that you can start playing a game in your game/living room on the big screen, get up and move about the house (e.g. use the bathroom, make dinner, etc.), using the phone as a display, and then go back to your game/living room, without having to stop playing. Basically, it allows you to use your phone to play full quality PS4 games, eliminating the need for a dedicated portable gaming device (at least in your house).
It still confuses me. But I also have no desire to play a game, that I normally play on a regular size Tv, on a small tablet screen either.
NoThru22's Avatar NoThru22 11:52 AM 09-04-2014
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It still confuses me. But I also have no desire to play a game, that I normally play on a regular size Tv, on a small tablet screen either.
With my young son and clingy ass wife, I remote play on the Vita all the time. I'd love to be able to use the DS4 with Vita remote play.
Spanglo's Avatar Spanglo 11:58 AM 09-04-2014
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It still confuses me. But I also have no desire to play a game, that I normally play on a regular size Tv, on a small tablet screen either.

HockeyoAJB's Avatar HockeyoAJB 12:13 PM 09-04-2014
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It still confuses me. But I also have no desire to play a game, that I normally play on a regular size Tv, on a small tablet screen either.
I'm with you, as evidenced by the fact that I have never owned a Gameboy, PSP, Vita, etc. However, I could definitely see the value of this capability for parents of young teenage boys. Instead of buying them a different smartphone phone and a portable gaming device (which normally requires its own set of games) to go along with the gaming console you have in the game/living room, you buy them this phone, which can serve as both. It's just one more device replaced by a smartphone, like the dedicated music player, portable DVD player, camera, and GPS device before it.
HockeyoAJB's Avatar HockeyoAJB 12:17 PM 09-04-2014
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With my young son and clingy ass wife, I remote play on the Vita all the time. I'd love to be able to use the DS4 with Vita remote play.
I hope your wife doesn't visit these forums.
Cravit8's Avatar Cravit8 01:09 PM 09-04-2014
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With my young son and clingy ass wife, I remote play on the Vita all the time. I'd love to be able to use the DS4 with Vita remote play.
lol.

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I bet it'll be just fine.
Dude no way.
Well, maybe if the game doesn't sell well to PS users. I AM talking about PSN, not the actual Destiny servers choking on the influx of players. It appears so far most here agree with me.
Since PS4 launched with 3 PSN outages and 2 PSN server traffic jams for a total of 5 to-date disallowing users to connect I have no faith Destiny will be playable.
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 02:46 PM 09-04-2014
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lol.







Dude no way.

Well, maybe if the game doesn't sell well to PS users. I AM talking about PSN, not the actual Destiny servers choking on the influx of players. It appears so far most here agree with me.

Since PS4 launched with 3 PSN outages and 2 PSN server traffic jams for a total of 5 to-date disallowing users to connect I have no faith Destiny will be playable.

Fair enough, I'm sure activision can handle it, but Sony might be another story.

But isn't a stable network supposed to be what we're paying for?
Mud76's Avatar Mud76 02:50 PM 09-04-2014
Sony previously had a phone that worked with remote play on the PS3, but never rolled it out to flagship handsets.

On the old one, the remote play worked on cellular network as well as internet via wifi or local wifi.
Though the video belwo expicitly says home wifi.

I really had to check that date was not April 1st
You Tube

Epyon415's Avatar Epyon415 07:12 PM 09-04-2014
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Fair enough, I'm sure activision can handle it, but Sony might be another story.

But isn't a stable network supposed to be what we're paying for?
lol, that PR talk got'cha!

With the exception of Dota 2, I cannot recall ANY recent online game launching without serious/major network issues. Whether it is Sony or Bungie/Activision there will be issues. That or they are going to queue access.
Cravit8's Avatar Cravit8 07:21 PM 09-04-2014
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lol, that PR talk got'cha!

With the exception of Dota 2, I cannot recall ANY recent online game launching without serious/major network issues. Whether it is Sony or Bungie/Activision there will be issues. That or they are going to queue access.
How would queue access work? Is that a stealth thing or players know in advance?
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 07:28 PM 09-04-2014
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How would queue access work? Is that a stealth thing or players know in advance?
Assumedly you'd have to get in line only if the servers were full. But for them to build in some sort of queueing system is a tacit admission that theyre not willing to prepare enough server capacity to handle the load.
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 07:31 PM 09-04-2014
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lol, that PR talk got'cha!

With the exception of Dota 2, I cannot recall ANY recent online game launching without serious/major network issues. Whether it is Sony or Bungie/Activision there will be issues. That or they are going to queue access.
Well, it had better not just be PR....I mean seriously, what are we paying for then? Cause it'd be pretty ridiculous if PSN can't stay up while free services like steam can handle anything.
lordxar5's Avatar lordxar5 07:38 PM 09-04-2014
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Well, it had better not just be PR....I mean seriously, what are we paying for then? Cause it'd be pretty ridiculous if PSN can't stay up while free services like steam can handle anything.
Steam is a bit different though. Every PSN account and to a lesser extent goes through PSN plus chat. Steam at least sheds chat and ancillary services so the load won't be as great. Not sure how much the user base differs though.
DCG35holla's Avatar DCG35holla 08:04 PM 09-04-2014
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PS4 remote play on Sony Z3 / Z3 compact



http://au.ign.com/articles/2014/09/0...z3-smartphones

Shut up and take my money
That is AWESOME!!!
DCG35holla's Avatar DCG35holla 08:12 PM 09-04-2014
Anybody have slow wifi issues with their PS4? I have a 105mbps down, 20mbps up connection and my wifi on my Apple Extreme works well, but for some reason when I do the built in PS4 speed test I rarely get about 10mbps, usually between 8-14mbps down. Do you think I might have a faulty ps4?
bd2003's Avatar bd2003 08:17 PM 09-04-2014
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Steam is a bit different though. Every PSN account and to a lesser extent goes through PSN plus chat. Steam at least sheds chat and ancillary services so the load won't be as great. Not sure how much the user base differs though.
So the reason we're paying a monthly fee for a fragile network is so our voice chat streams can pick up some additional latency by being needlessly routed through a central network?

And just for reference, steam is bigger than xbox live and PSN combined.
Mud76's Avatar Mud76 08:23 PM 09-04-2014
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Anybody have slow wifi issues with their PS4? I have a 105mbps down, 20mbps up connection and my wifi on my Apple Extreme works well, but for some reason when I do the built in PS4 speed test I rarely get about 10mbps, usually between 8-14mbps down. Do you think I might have a faulty ps4?
even through Ethernet, I find the built in speed test to low ball my connection speed.
surely 8mbps is enough for gaming?
I think a lot of people including myself would be lucky (and happy) to get that.
DCG35holla's Avatar DCG35holla 08:39 PM 09-04-2014
That's good to know, my next step was to try to plug it in via ethernet but that requires me to reconfigure my wifi and change rooms. I download lots of games rather than buy disks, and I stream a lot of media on my PS4 and watch a lot of online video. Part of the reason that i pay for a 105mbps down connection is to have lightning fast downloading and streaming HD, so it's very disappointing and frustrating to have a new PS4 that can only connect at speeds that are not only significantly less than what I pay for, but that are speeds that are less than even the internet on my cell phone. It's a huge difference to download a 25GB game on 8mbps vs 105mbps. Perhaps a software update will fix it.
Johnny Mnemonic's Avatar Johnny Mnemonic 08:53 PM 09-04-2014
If it's WIFI, you can still have deadspots in your house. Moving either device a couple feet could net huge rewards. As you can see here (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/...sics-and-gifs/) the dead zones and strong zones can be somewhat surprising and counter intuitive.

It could also be as simple as a congested wifi area, and your router could be set to "auto" channel which greatly affects speeds if you keep getting bounced around on channels.

Or there is some stupid bottle neck in the PS4. Not sure. I'll test mine tonight which is pure ethernet gigabit to uverse FTTP.
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