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Do PS+ games become available again when a lapsed PS+ sub is renewed ?
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Do PS+ games become available again when a lapsed PS+ sub is renewed ?
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Don't you have to have a subscription to Play Station Plus to use the cloud? I do not have one.

Here we go: Upgrade PS4 HDD
You do need to have PS+ to use the cloud but you can also use flash drive or external HDD to save your game saves before the replacement.
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Popped on Infamous First Light. Completely forgot how good Infamous looks.
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You do need to have PS+ to use the cloud but you can also use flash drive or external HDD to save your game saves before the replacement.

I see no reason not to save the game saves to the external HDD you suggested and then put that HDD in the PS4. Sound logical?

Also, I received last of us as a free download, that can also be transferred and saved on the new HDD?


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I see no reason not to save the game saves to the external HDD you suggested and then put that HDD in the PS4. Sound logical?

Also, I received last of us as a free download, that can also be transferred and saved on the new HDD?


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I don't think game saves will work that way but hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong. You also cannot transfer games to HDD, so all games, apps, movies, etc will have to be re-downloaded to your new HDD from the "MY LIBRARY" section of the main menu screen. Also make sure you have the correct "new install" file on a flash drive/external to use after the swap. The one I used a few weeks ago was about 780MB.

***Edited**** The new HDD will be formatted once installed in the PS4 so anything on it prior to installation is going to be deleted.

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I don't think game saves will work that way but hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong. You also cannot transfer games to HDD, so all games, apps, movies, etc will have to be re-downloaded to your new HDD from the "MY LIBRARY" section of the main menu screen. Also make sure you have the correct "new install" file on a flash drive/external to use after the swap. The one I used a few weeks ago was about 780MB.

***Edited**** The new HDD will be formatted once installed in the PS4 so anything on it prior to installation is going to be deleted.

Thanks...after installing the HDD, I reinstall the system software before transferring game saves and reloading games?

Is this the reinstall system software procedure that you used?

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Thanks...after installing the HDD, I reinstall the system software before transferring game saves and reloading games?

Is this the reinstall system software procedure that you used?

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Yes, that is the right procedure. Here are some tips : Already have flash drive with the file (over 700 mb file) and controller plugged into the PS4 the first time you start it after putting the new HDD in. On initial startup make sure you do the 7 second hold of power button until the second beep. Then pick very last option (I believe it's option 7)for reinitialize ps4 . Once it's done doing the inital set ups again like brand new then you can start downloading all the games again.
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Yes, that is the right procedure. Here are some tips : Already have flash drive with the file (over 700 mb file) and controller plugged into the PS4 the first time you start it after putting the new HDD in. On initial startup make sure you do the 7 second hold of power button until the second beep. Then pick very last option (I believe it's option 7)for reinitialize ps4 . Once it's done doing the inital set ups again like brand new then you can start downloading all the games again.

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You're welcome and good luck. It really was a lot easier than I had anticipated which is good in my case, lol.

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You're welcome and good luck. It really was a lot easier than I had anticipated which is good in my case, lol.

Me too...I just don't want to screw up anything. How difficult was it to remove the case on the external HDD? For future reference, are all downloads stored/saved in the library and can be downloaded if need be? I normally buy physical media but prefer to download now.


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Me too...I just don't want to screw up anything. How difficult was it to remove the case on the external HDD? For future reference, are all downloads stored/saved in the library and can be downloaded if need be? I normally buy physical media but prefer to download now.


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Opening the case was simple. I just used a small flathead screwdriver and lifted the top of the case off from the side. There are youtube videos also showing how others did it.

Yes all the downloads are in the MY LIBRARY. It is just an easier way of getting your content than going to the download list on PS Store for it, it's a really nice feature for PS4 For physical discs you will have to insert each one again and have the game re-install back to the new HDD but those are quick

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Thanks again...had $50 in Best Buy reward certificates I had to use before the 10th. No brainer upgrade for $54.


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Thanks again...had $50 in Best Buy reward certificates I had to use before the 10th. No brainer upgrade for $54.


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Don't forget that if you take it easy on the Seagate HDD case you can choose to just insert the PS4 500 GB HDD into the case and use it for an external HDD, all for $54

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yes doing a full backup and a full restore to a new drive is the way to go.

make sure your backup drive is not in ECO mode...since the backup will takes hours and hours.

USB2.0 is so slow.
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Popped on Infamous First Light. Completely forgot how good Infamous looks.
It does look good. I've just played about 30 minutes and it just started me on a fetch lumens misson. I guess Fetch is a good name for her.

So far I'm not digging it. Maybe because neon was my least favorite power and it is the same city from The main game. Feels empty, probably because no DUP stations. That's probably why the framerate seems better as well.

I hope it picks up and gets more enjoyable.
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It does look good. I've just played about 30 minutes and it just started me on a fetch lumens misson. I guess Fetch is a good name for her.

So far I'm not digging it. Maybe because neon was my least favorite power and it is the same city from The main game. Feels empty, probably because no DUP stations. That's probably why the framerate seems better as well.

I hope it picks up and gets more enjoyable.
I haven't played Second Son and from what I'm reading, this is a prequel. So would it be ok for me to play First Light first?

Or should I play Second First and First Second?

Who's on First?
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I haven't played Second Son and from what I'm reading, this is a prequel. So would it be ok for me to play First Light first?

Or should I play Second First and First Second?

Who's on First?
You can probably do First Light first. I doubt it has much spoiler type stuff aside from maybe powers but by now...probably already know. Besides I just don't think they would release something free that ruins the full game, at least I'd hope not. So far it just looks like an origin story for a side character.

Call me crazy but I'd like to see some episodic Plus games. Not a full game split up but like the old serial TV shows or a comic book in standalone game form. Been watching Black Mirror and other Twilight Zone stuff lately if you can't tell. Now this wouldn't be an every month thing or replace full games but I think something like this could be very cool.
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This is the first month since the PS4's release where I've been excited about the PS+ games. I really enjoyed Second Son but just never got around to buying First Light and, neon was my favorite power so it should be a fun game. The Swapper has been on my radar for awhile and I played a little last night. I love it so far, I love these types of puzzle games.

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I replaced with the Samsung spinpoint m9?? that came out of the External HDD case (Seagate backup plus 2TB 2.5 inch). Below is a link to the exact one i used, note the part number is STDR2000100 and still on sale for $99.

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I haven't played Second Son and from what I'm reading, this is a prequel. So would it be ok for me to play First Light first?

Or should I play Second First and First Second?

Who's on First?
Well for the first 30 minutes it doesn't seem to matter. As lorxar5 said, it seems to be an origins story.

The first 30 minutes of Second Son was a lot more interesting to me, that's all I can really say as of now.
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Call me crazy but I'd like to see some episodic Plus games. Not a full game split up but like the old serial TV shows or a comic book in standalone game form. Been watching Black Mirror and other Twilight Zone stuff lately if you can't tell. Now this wouldn't be an every month thing or replace full games but I think something like this could be very cool.
I'm a fan of anthology series like Black Mirror and Twilight Zone, but I don't know what that would look like in video-game form. The episodes of those series don't share a setting, so wouldn't it just be a bunch of different games? Or do you mean a series of games that focused on different characters in a shared setting?
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How do I access the music player app on the PS4? I insert the same thumb drive I used with my PS3, where I have all the music files in a folder titled "MUSIC." But I don't see an app to access them on the PS4s menus or one I can download from the selection of downloadable media apps.
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This is the first month since the PS4's release where I've been excited about the PS+ games. I really enjoyed Second Son but just never got around to buying First Light and, neon was my favorite power so it should be a fun game. The Swapper has been on my radar for awhile and I played a little last night. I love it so far, I love these types of puzzle games.
After Neon in First Light, you'll never want to go back to it in Second Son.
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After Neon in First Light, you'll never want to go back to it in Second Son.
Yes for me, after playing First Light, when I tried to go back to Second Son it just wasn't the same. I really enjoyed playing First Light.

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I'm a fan of anthology series like Black Mirror and Twilight Zone, but I don't know what that would look like in video-game form. The episodes of those series don't share a setting, so wouldn't it just be a bunch of different games? Or do you mean a series of games that focused on different characters in a shared setting?
Hmm good question because what I said and what I was thinking are not as connected as I first thought.

What I meant = First Light starts it out. I think theres a KZ standalone DLC that could be another month. Say toss in TLoU standalone thing. Maybe do something like The Walking Dead for a few months. Morsels of standalone DLC as First Light is that builds on to an existing story to either hype you to buy the game or save $'s for those who skip certain DLC. Again, not to replace full games, maybe here and there but just basically taking the First Light idea and expanding it.

What I typed = get different devs to do their own take on a theme or to all tell one story but each piece is told in a different way. Say the South Park devs make a cartoon part and the Infamous devs make a comic book style part for a different month. Or whatever, they dont really have to be tied to their niche either. Best example might be in hearing Twisted Sister sing Christmas tunes or hear an opera singers take on a country song. I think theres enough of a variation in content creators out there that it could be something fun to look forward to each month.
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How do I access the music player app on the PS4? I insert the same thumb drive I used with my PS3, where I have all the music files in a folder titled "MUSIC." But I don't see an app to access them on the PS4s menus or one I can download from the selection of downloadable media apps.
If everything is named right on the USB stick, when you plug it in there is a player tile that comes up. You may need to scroll through or look in your library...maybe. Think it goes to the first on the list where your last played game is.
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After Neon in First Light, you'll never want to go back to it in Second Son.
Oh I guess should give the game more time. I was bored the first 30 minutes I played. I didn't like the neon powers in Second Son. Good to hear it gets better in First Light.

Still wish it wasn't the same city as it just feels like a game I already played through.
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I just picked up a PS4 when I traded one of my xbox one systems. I have only played Madden 15 but I had no commentary during the game. I am running a 2.1 setup with a Pioneer SC-82. On the Xbox One I had to change my sound to stereo but I guess I didn't see that option for PS4. There is linear PCM and then bitsream and none of them would give me commentary. Any suggestions on what setting I need to try in the PS4 to get commentary and dialogue? I wouldn't think it would be a setting on my AVR...but I am not too certain.
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I just picked up a PS4 when I traded one of my xbox one systems. I have only played Madden 15 but I had no commentary during the game. I am running a 2.1 setup with a Pioneer SC-82. On the Xbox One I had to change my sound to stereo but I guess I didn't see that option for PS4. There is linear PCM and then bitsream and none of them would give me commentary. Any suggestions on what setting I need to try in the PS4 to get commentary and dialogue? I wouldn't think it would be a setting on my AVR...but I am not too certain.
If you haven't already, I'd suggest checking here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-nfl-football/. There are not a lot of Madden players around here (or if there are they don't post a lot about it).
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